This isn't what was said. Whether the game is in a state to be shown and whether that state is to Yoshida's satisfaction are two very different things.
Guess which one won out last time.
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This isn't what was said. Whether the game is in a state to be shown and whether that state is to Yoshida's satisfaction are two very different things.
Guess which one won out last time.
I think last time they didn't expect to get backlash for the visuals of the game, so they thought it was good enough to be shown.
I said in the Sony thread, based on public knowledge out there by insiders that Square 2022 and 2023 are mapped out already.
FFXVI will launch 1st in 2022 I expect Q2 2022
Forspoken is next which is the Japanese Studios under Squares umbrella with English Writers. Late 2022
Final Fantasy VII Remake Part 2 will Launch Q1/Q2 2023.
The only thing I have heard is E3 2022 plans have started.
FFXVI will launch 1st in 2022 I expect Q2 2022
Forspoken is next which is the Japanese Studios under Squares umbrella with English Writers. Late 2022
Final Fantasy VII Remake Part 2 will Launch Q1/Q2 2023.
The only thing I have heard is E3 2022 plans have started.
For S-E you mean? I hope those plans don't include FF XVI :p
I agree with your prediction about FF XVI, yeah. I don't think we'll have to wait until after summer to play it. Don't know about Forspoken, though, could see it coming out first.
Forspoken isn't coming first. They started pre-pro on XVI in like 2016. Luminous wasted years on FFXV DLC and the Windows port. The timing doesn't even make sense unless Forspoken is like a ten hour game. That "January 2022" date has people mixed up, man. It's never made sense.
Pre-Production for Forspoken was running simultaneously with XV DLC, we saw it in the form of WITCH.
But even that really doesn't mean anything. Pre-production can go on for years and years until resource frees up. For XVI they had a creative team come from Heavensward but they didn't suddenly have the hundreds of developers needed to create a AAA game. SE have been recruiting for years, so we have no idea when they were able to kickstart full scale production.
On the other hand it's an entirely plausible scenario that Forspoken started full development after the XV DLCs.
I know, but I kinda enjoy the madness that usually happens when nothing is shown.
We don't know what Forspoken really is yet. They can easily spend 3 years in full production and make a full game. Until they say the date, I will be reserved in thinking it can come earlier or much later in time. At the moment, my hunch is that Forspoken is before FFXVI. But I am glad to see so many people here feel optimistic about the opposite.
Its gonna show up at TGS anyway, but I wouldn't mind seeing more or a beta. I LOVED the alphaI can't wait for them to show off more of the Final Fantasy game we're ALL excited for...
Please don't do this, Sony
It's what I'm going with. I'm not convinced much of Witch turned into Forspoken either.
Yeah but what I mean is we have no idea when XVI started full production. Just because pre production began in 2016 doesn't mean full production couldn't have started in 2019. In fact that probably is when it started.
For sure, origins is easy to shit on (and for valid reasons), but I think the game still has a lot of potential. It needs polish for sure, but final fantasy nioh is like a dream game for me so I'll always hold out hope it'll be good.
I understood your post. My understanding is the game started actual development before then and lm comfortable assuming that's not the case for Forspoken.
Okiedoke we'll I guess we'll just have to wait and see which comes first.
Did everyone forget about what Square said this past May..?
unless i'm interpreting footage wrong FFXVI is way more of a "game" at this point than Forspoken (which doesn't even have an official title yet)
that said this stuff can turn on a dime
edit: my bad it's not under "tentative title" anymore. dunno how i missed that
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I'm pretty sure Forspoke IS the title. "Project Athia" was the codename/"in-production" name.
you're right. i still thought it was under "tentative title" and forgot it was ever Project Athia at some point
Seems like this is fair to say about XVI:
- Pre-production: around 2016 (with key Heavensward people).
- Full production: early 2019.
- Presumed battle director Ryota Suzuki joined S-E during June 2020 (or at least they announced then).
- By October 2020, they had "completed basic development and scenario production".
- Scenario is complete (probably for a while now) and the source voice recording in its final stages.
So um.. about the question if this game has an actual party system..
Forspoken looks to have started full production at the start of 2019 as well.
A gameinformer guy tweeted during Forspoken's reveal that he had seen a very early prototype of it when they went to SE Business Division 2 for a preview of FFXV in 2016 and now he realizes what that prototype was for. So pre-production for Forspoken also seems to have started in 2016.
Forspoken is actually the title that will be on the box, when sold . Buit you make a good point about the trailers.
The least they could do is maybe throw some more words onto the web site they launched last October? Maybe that's all we'll get this year.
I'm not looking forward to have them confirm no party at all.
That's gonna be some rough time for discussing the game (and a big dissapointment lol).
Oh, had totally forgotten about the GameInformer thing, nice catch. I still wonder just how much input Tabata had on the game, as he was clearly involved at some point, and if there was any kind of reboot or something.
So, it's anyone's guess to see which game comes first seeing how their development times mirror. Just because Forspoken didn't get the actual title until later/has had less meaningful trailer doesn't mean they are way behind FF XVI.
I am still betting on Forspoken coming first.
Keep in mind that Forspoken has probably been rebooted multiple times since then.
You are saying that you have reason to believe there is no party?
Also, for people who follow 14 and Yoshi-P, they know that guy is very clever with his wording and knowingly misleads/teases sometimes. A good example was when asked about his division's mystery project and his involvement with FFXVI, he just said that he is NOT directing FFXVI and left it at that. Many people at that time thought ok, maybe that game is not mainline FF then only to later reveal that he is only the producer and that the game is indeed FFXVI. Now, he mentions he wanted to do something for TGS, but could not make it in time. This, to me does not indicate that that was their only plan for showing off the game for now. And he sure as hell was not going to imply at all that we would see it in some event like PS showcase when no such event had been announced yet. All that is to say, that FFXVI can still show up on Thursday as Yoshi is very specific with his words and trying to extrapolate from his comments usually is misleading.
Yep. Very specifically said he "does not think" they'll make TGS. Going to be very funny if it's there on Thursday and confirmed for TGS after. Man loves his wordplay.
I think it could go either way, so I wouldn't be surprised if this is a solo game tbh.
But I'm mostly basing it on the combat looking similar to a character action game, which tend to have pretty deep, complex combat. Then again, that doesn't mean there couldn't be, say, 3 or 4 characters with diverse, complex styles in the game. Like, we've already seen guest combatants in XVI and stuff like DMCV proves you can have a nice amount of different characters. I also think the combat will have enough of its own (on top of RPG elements) that comparisons like this might not be that great.
As for Yoshida, yeah, he seems to love twisting the truth and trolling. But the reason he seemed down on TGS was him not thinking they'd be able to pull off a big showcase (which is what he seems to want to do next before opening pre-orders and all of that) and he seemed candid enough. Again, if taken by his word, it would imply they would be even less ready for a showcase a month before. But it's all about semantics (and a language I don't understand at that).
So, in both cases (party and the next showing being next week), I choose to remain pessimistic, but I wouldn't be shocked if I'm wrong (if only), just a tiny bit more surprised than if those things didn't happen.
Yeah, that won't be pretty. Ngl, I'd be bummed, but I don't think there's anything that would be a dealbreaker in this game.
Now, I'd honestly be surprised if we didn't at least get non-playable members, even if it's not for the full game and the rotate or something. Like, even XIV, an MMO, has that and, from what I've seen, it's very well developed.
CBU3's full focus is going to be on Endwalker from now till a few months after its release, especially with all the recent hype surrounding it, then all hands on deck with FFXVI's marketing i think.
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This was a PlayStation ad from a few days ago that had Hogwarts and Forspoken in it but no FFXVI. That's why my current feeling is those two games are more likely to be shown next Thursday and have a closer release
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This was a PlayStation ad from a few days ago that had Hogwarts and Forspoken in it but no FFXVI. That's why my current feeling is those two games are more likely to be shown next Thursday and have a closer release
They said they were going to show stuff in 2021 last year and CBU3 considering TGS (even if they might not make it) points at that still being the case.
This year we're getting more, I'm sure of that.
Yeah they probably wanted to have a 16 presence at TGS, not sure if it was covid or something else that might stop them from doing that.
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