I legit think by the end we'll see Zack and Aerith starting a family or some shit. Gotta beat those evil "but...this isn't how it happened" ghosts into the ground with the REAL ending.
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FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE - Spoiler Discussion [Check Threadmarks For Story Details]
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I legit think by the end we'll see Zack and Aerith starting a family or some shit. Gotta beat those evil "but...this isn't how it happened" ghosts into the ground with the REAL ending.
Those rumors sold me on the game tbh. Ordered it and its shipped. Will have it tomorrow.
For better or worse they can do what they want now. I think its interesting and I actually don't mind the spoiler points. The original is different enough anyway. They already changed shit in the demo with the bomb etc. The writing is on the wall.
For better or worse they can do what they want now. I think its interesting and I actually don't mind the spoiler points. The original is different enough anyway. They already changed shit in the demo with the bomb etc. The writing is on the wall.
Yeah all the elements of Cloud's sword/personality/psychological issues still seem to be in place. Personalities and back stories for the major characters don't appear to have changed in any crazy ways (...so far).
It does look like this is going to be its own distinct canon, which isn't going to be ideal to the people who expected and wanted it to pretty much be the original story with maybe a bit of compilation stuff mixed in, but Zack being alive and Aerith living feel like leaps at this point to me.
Which is not to say I think there won't be any big changes to the circumstances and arcs of these characters, an alternate canon gives them a lot of room to do that. But even if they take a different route for someone like Aerith, I'm not sold that they'll push this so far that one of the biggest moments of the game and the series in general is going to be taken out. We can call Nomura and Nojima madmen but I feel like they like that scene too much, and know most other people like that scene too much, to undermine it or cut it from the story entirely.
unless it might be someone else who could died instead of Aerith? Probably Zack or Red.
It's going to be quite fun to figure if the story plot would change or not.
Framing a remake for newer generations as a 'usurper' is a really limited and, frankly, kind of selfish perspective. It's basically saying to people who might want to experience Final Fantasy VII in their own context (i.e. younger generations) to "suck it up and go put up with a decades old game." As if that would ever be a replacement for the experience that those lucky enough to be nostalgic over FFVII had.
Basically Final Fantasy VII is still there, but the Final Fantasy VII that a 35 year old played at release when they were 12 is something that went away two decades ago. This remake should have given the kids and teens of today a way to experience the story of Cloud, Tifa, Sephiroth, etc without the baggage of early PS1-era presentation and gameplay. Instead it's giving cynical adults a way to experience the warm fuzzies of nostalgia with the added bonus of brand new story additions that only they will really get the full impact of.
Well, are you surprised? It's a game about ecological themes, making the villains conservatives (those who want to stick to the status quo/resist change) make complete sense. We even have a rise a nationalism and nostalgia for the past all over the world, including Japan.
"We can't dwell on the past, we have to move forward" is a pretty common theme in fiction.
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Not a fan of FF7, but this is what KH fans have had to deal with for the past 2 decades when it comes to Nomura. It may seem entertaining at first and continually keep you guessing as KH did (and continues to do), but expect it to be filled with convoluted BS that hardly makes sense most of the time.
I'm gonna chime in here and say I'm actually a few months YOUNGER than the original Japanese release of FFVII and never played it until January of this year and didn't really find it outdated at all aside from some weird script translations.
If only we could save Jessie. My perfect party of Zack, Cloud, and Jessie could've had a chance.
Before Crisis is already canon
Before Crisis is already canon
It's clear what the intention is, it's unfortunate some won't see it that way until it benefits their narrative.
I am so glad I didn't buy this game.
Going to just drop £6 on the switch version and enjoy the game again.
like many well laid out posts before mine, I simply wanted the graphics from this game with the story from the original plus maybe a few expanded bits that fit nicely to make it few fresh, this so isn't it, and they've been proper shady with the whole thing.
I dread to think what is coming in future games.
Going to just drop £6 on the switch version and enjoy the game again.
like many well laid out posts before mine, I simply wanted the graphics from this game with the story from the original plus maybe a few expanded bits that fit nicely to make it few fresh, this so isn't it, and they've been proper shady with the whole thing.
I dread to think what is coming in future games.
Should we also make it available for phones? Have a progression system and a battle pass? After all, that's what kids are playing.
For all we know, due to the idea of "changing/surpassing fate" now being the theme of this FFVII take, who is to say it will be three games? What if it's a duology? The next bit is just their crazy take in an alternate canon?
We presumed that this would be a close remake of FFVII, so we assumed it had to follow the same story beats. With how this part ends, we're left questioning how many the developers are even going to consider following now. Three parts made sense if the game was "FFVII but deeper, more expanded" but we're really entering the territory of "new, different FFVII" which means very much of what we assumed may not actually play out.
yeah but doesnt that go for a lot of things? Often, those "golden era" moments are just a combination of the right things happening at the right moment; you cannot replicate that (most of the time). Even if FF7R would be a beat-for-beat remake of the original but with modern graphics there would still be people writing essays about how it doesnt even touch the original. Especially with internet and spoilerculture in general, a lot of the impact isnt there. Don't get me wrong, I understand what you're getting at.. That said, Doom and FF7 are probably my most 'transformative' games I played in my life because they were truly doing or showing something new for their respective genres at that time. It will be very hard these days to create such an experience, heh
They already committed to major story beats being the same, so I don't know what anybody is rambling about. Like how do we know any of the new elements is going to even fundamentally change the overall story for the majority of people playing. If they are just plot devices that add new elements, what does it take away at all. How do we know any of the stuff happening is specifically made for people specifically who played the old game to meta dissect. It's conjecture, and the meltdown is one of the best piece of entertainment I've ever seen. The overreaction is from people intrepeting the story base on other people interpreting the story. If the events are rearrange with the same major events, it's a remake in a general sense still.
Movies and television adaptations do these kind of things constantly, but only in video games do we get this weird call to arms about the loss of children's innocence in experiencing the holy story in its intact state of what we shall now deem the ff7 bible.
Movies and television adaptations do these kind of things constantly, but only in video games do we get this weird call to arms about the loss of children's innocence in experiencing the holy story in its intact state of what we shall now deem the ff7 bible.
I start to like how this is going to be a different entity. I know the original, if the remake was 1:1 I could write down how it would progress beyond part 1.
But now nothing is certain. I like that. The original still exists.
Man... I kind of love this? LMAO
It's bulshit blazing, but I believe it.
Yeah, I can understand that. However I think the confusion here comes from people seeing my usage of 'outdated' here as a subjective one instead of an objective contextual one. To me when I say FFVII is outdated I'm referring to how it is outdated compared to the presentation and gameplay standards of today. That is true whether or not you can personally look past that.
I think subjectively there's going to be a lot more people around our ages that would can't look past its outdated elements than those who can.
Honestly this kind of post doesn't really deserve any more than an "OK Boomer."
Yeah, I'm not really saying it's possible to replicate the context that surrounded FF7 when it released. I just think that they should have focused more on creating "FF7 for a new generation," instead of creating "FF7 for old cynics who are tired of FF7."
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I wish they would just defeat Sephiroth for good at the end of this part and be done with this "remake"
You know what? This could explain why there is no Part I in the title.
This is Final Fantasy VII Remake, the next one will tell "The Unknown Journey", as the ending states. It will have a completely different subtitle and everything will be different. Maybe.
It would be some next level Nomura bullshit.
Jeeeeeeeeeeesus.
This is Final Fantasy VII Remake, the next one will tell "The Unknown Journey", as the ending states. It will have a completely different subtitle and everything will be different. Maybe.
It would be some next level Nomura bullshit.
Jeeeeeeeeeeesus.
Yeah, thing is, if it's worse than the original and misses the point of the life and death theme, then they completely fucked up. I just don't trust, Nomura, Toriyama and Nojima to do justice.
Not only is this super condescending to younger generations of gamers, but it also completely misses the mark and is strawmaning something no one is talking about.
This is what makes me think Zack will live. Nomura will get to make as many new "FF7" stories as he wants now. Of course he'll keep/revive major characters that were killed off. He needs them to play with. And all this new wacky story telling will be built off the back of a game sold to long time fans as a "remake"
Absolute fucking clown shoes.
He isn't first class going by the sword, looks to be third class
When I saw Star Wars: The Force Awakens in theater, about halfway through I just got really depressed because here was a movie that both the critics and fans loved and it had nothing interesting to say. Recently I watched the Lion King, and absolutely despised it because it was just a soulless remake of the original, just with this boring hyper realistic filter on it.
From what I have seen from this game makes me excited because I really want to see what they do with Wutai because it just seems like its going to be a huge part of the story since they made it clear that Shinra is trying to start another war. Give me Barret trying to re-unite the splintered Avalanche cells.
rip. That already lets me know he's the reoccurring jobber boss up there with Rude/Reno.
READING THE LAST FEW PAGES OF THIS THREAD...........
WHAT THE FUCKING HELL SQUARE!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT THE FUCKING HELL SQUARE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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