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Nov 23, 2017
4,998
Kingdom Hearts highly disagrees. He can relish in FFV:R being a success since it wasn't originally written by him (Thank God)

But that man should never touch a pen again for anything solo.
#WellActually, you highly disagree, not the franchise of Kingdom Hearts. The franchise of Kingdom hearts has been highly successful. Kingdom Hearts III itself was one of the top 20 best selling games of last year and had a decent metacritic. "Nomura bullshit" can be a thing but some people, like me, enjoy it.
 

ravnelis

Prophet of Regret
Member
Jan 1, 2018
651
Talent won.

I'm only 15h in but I love this game so far. Will definitely replay if a Pc / PS5 version will ever get released.
 

Neiteio

Member
Oct 25, 2017
24,132
Waiting for Part 2 is a sort of unbearable agony I thought one could only experience waiting for Smash Bros newcomer reveals ;_;
 

Kikujiro

Member
Oct 27, 2017
906
It's pretty sad to see all the praise going only to Nomura, when this game is clearly Kitase's pet project and a team effort with more than one director (yes, even Motomu Toriyama).
 

Vito

One Winged Slayer - Formerly Undead Fantasy
Member
Oct 25, 2017
16,069
Sounds like we got a whisper over here.
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Brix

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,681
Congratulations square. You deserve it. And remember how people bitched about them not putting "PART 1" on the cover lol.

It's been weeks, where's the outrage from uninformed fans not knowing this is a retelling of midgar.
 

Roytheone

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,156
Well deserved. The first final fantasy I really enjoyed and much better imo than the original where I always stopped playing out of boredom. They just nailed the combat system this time!
 

N.47H.4N

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,096
Amazing results.

Though I don't think it being exclusive matters as much since the majority of the fanbase is on PS anyway and PS4s current install base might be bigger than what PS/Xbox had combined in 2016.
Bingo,not downplaying because it is deserved,much better game than XV,I never expected to sell less.
 

Samiya

Alt Account
Banned
Nov 30, 2019
4,811
Once this releases on PC and Xbox next year...

I'm so happy for Square Enix.
 

Katana_Strikes

Unshakable Resolve
Member
Oct 29, 2017
10,749
Well deserved, but only because 15 was trash. I dont highly regard Remake unfortunately but it's much better better than most of what SE put out anymore. Shame that had to mess about and add such much crap which spoils it for me.
 

Neiteio

Member
Oct 25, 2017
24,132
Credit for FF7 Remake goes to the whole team - both the unsung heroes working on the art, music, mechanics, etc, and the crazy people like Nomura that you love to hate. ALL of them brought a ridiculous amount of passion to this project that swirls together into something greater. It's like Smash Ultimate where you can just feel it's a labor of love.
 

Quinton

Specialist at TheGamer / Reviewer at RPG Site
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
17,279
Midgar, With Love
Toriyama redeemed. His role in VII Remake is where he excels -- it's when he's given lead writer and/or lead director duties that things go sour. I hope he sticks around as head of scenario design for the remainder of the project.

This game's success is well deserved. There are quibbles -- there will always be quibbles -- and plenty of them are justified. But on the whole, VII Remake is fantastic. It sets the board for future installments fairly well, but where it excels is in its characterization. And the cast is a big part of why the original title is so beloved. If Cloud were overly mopey, or Aerith too prim, or Tifa too bubbly, or Barret too one-note, the script would have suffered in unfortunate ways. But not only did none of this happen; Jessie, Biggs, and Wedge were all expanded-upon brilliantly. These are heroes worthy of their notoriety in the gaming medium and I'm optimistic that future party members will also shine.

I recall some data points a few weeks back which gave certain folks an impression that this game performed well -- but not as well as FFXV. There were a few too many heated exchanges over that (as in, there were any to begin with, which is silly). Now it seems that wasn't true after all. Whether you're a fan of VII Remake or XV -- or both -- I think we can at least agree that commercially speaking, Final Fantasy is in a great place again.

And if you're not a fan of either, er, I guess you can still agree with that statement.
 
Oct 25, 2017
11,039
Toriyama redeemed. His role in VII Remake is where he excels -- it's when he's given lead writer and/or lead director duties that things go sour. I hope he sticks around as head of scenario design for the remainder of the project.

This game's success is well deserved. There are quibbles -- there will always be quibbles -- and plenty of them are justified. But on the whole, VII Remake is fantastic. It sets the board for future installments fairly well, but where it excels is in its characterization. And the cast is a big part of why the original title is so beloved. If Cloud were overly mopey, or Aerith too prim, or Tifa too bubbly, or Barret too one-note, the script would have suffered in unfortunate ways. But not only did none of this happen; Jessie, Biggs, and Wedge were all expanded-upon brilliantly. These are heroes worthy of their notoriety in the gaming medium and I'm optimistic that future party members will also shine.

I recall some data points a few weeks back which gave certain folks an impression that this game performed well -- but not as well as FFXV. There were a few too many heated exchanges over that (as in, there were any to begin with, which is silly). Now it seems that wasn't true after all. Whether you're a fan of VII Remake or XV -- or both -- I think we can at least agree that commercially speaking, Final Fantasy is in a great place again.

And if you're not a fan of either, er, I guess you can still agree with that statement.

My only worry is that se had a blueprint to work from for this game.

So I dont so easily say ff is in a great place because to me, 15 was a huge disappointment. 13 was a disappointment. We'll see what 16 is.
 

Yabberwocky

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,260
Excellent, had a blast with FFVIIR. Looking forward to more of that sweet, sweet battle system.

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Nice! I look forward to playing the complete version of FF7R one day. Hopefully I am still alive by then.

I have a mini-existential crisis when I think about how many years it could take for all the parts of the game to come out. Will I have kids? Will my kids have kids? Will I live that long?

aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
 

benhan

Member
Oct 30, 2017
263
Toriyama redeemed. His role in VII Remake is where he excels -- it's when he's given lead writer and/or lead director duties that things go sour. I hope he sticks around as head of scenario design for the remainder of the project.

This game's success is well deserved. There are quibbles -- there will always be quibbles -- and plenty of them are justified. But on the whole, VII Remake is fantastic. It sets the board for future installments fairly well, but where it excels is in its characterization. And the cast is a big part of why the original title is so beloved. If Cloud were overly mopey, or Aerith too prim, or Tifa too bubbly, or Barret too one-note, the script would have suffered in unfortunate ways. But not only did none of this happen; Jessie, Biggs, and Wedge were all expanded-upon brilliantly. These are heroes worthy of their notoriety in the gaming medium and I'm optimistic that future party members will also shine.

I recall some data points a few weeks back which gave certain folks an impression that this game performed well -- but not as well as FFXV. There were a few too many heated exchanges over that (as in, there were any to begin with, which is silly). Now it seems that wasn't true after all. Whether you're a fan of VII Remake or XV -- or both -- I think we can at least agree that commercially speaking, Final Fantasy is in a great place again.

And if you're not a fan of either, er, I guess you can still agree with that statement.
I was quite surprised when they published an interview with Toriyama prior to the release knowing his infamous popularity among FF fans. However it's clear from the interview that he has a major role in this game and SE still rates him highly. With Naoki Hamaguchi promoted as the other co-director, and Nomura as the lead Director forming a Trio, Kitase certainly played an important part in unifying this A team.
The story and music being so great (best FF, elite class for game) also proved the team synergy was top. Everyone involved in this game should be proud of their achievement including all the young designers and programmers.
Magnifying the success of the Part 1 by releasing a roadmap to Part 2 is a necessity for SE. Would be hyped if they tease us with vertical slice of how the game will perform in PS5 this year... they can't wait too long especially with that controversial ending. The teaser will unify the fanbase again.
 

Khanimus

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
40,211
Greater Vancouver
It got me to like FF7, a game I didn't care much for, and a franchise I haven't connected with in decades.

Deserves all the success. Fucking loved it, and I was going in extremely apathetic towards it.
 

ArkhamFantasy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,545
"FFXIII damaged the brand"

*XV breaks franchise sales records*

"FFXV damaged the brand"

*VII Remake breaks franchise sales records*
 

BBboy20

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
22,011
It's pretty sad to see all the praise going only to Nomura, when this game is clearly Kitase's pet project and a team effort with more than one director (yes, even Motomu Toriyama).
Praise. Blame. Everyone's eyeing on him.

Even so you get the impression the producer is still directing his game.
 
Jun 17, 2018
3,244
It's an absolutely fantastic game so it's well deserved. I saw my wife finish FFXV last night and FFVII is so much better, I'm not surprised it has been more successful.