It seems to me that this fellow did so for that reason and some lackluster side quests:
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Final Fantasy VII Remake - Review Thread (MetaCritic: 88 | OpenCritic: 89)
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I don't think these issues are getting patched out. It's so frequent and widespread that I doubt it's a bug or optimisation issue. I think it's a limitation of the engine and visual style they went for - hyper detailed character models.
The game still looks beautiful, but this issue is going to get called out in reviews.
Are these peeps on mc?
Análisis de Final Fantasy VII Remake para PS4
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no thanks I'll use the word that describes what it is.. no /s at all..... the textures in that picture are fucking lazy and more over embarrassing.
Yes they are.Are these peeps on mc?
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Considering how many people and hours go into making a product of this size, lazy is definitely not a good word to use.
But that image is very accurate to the experience in certain chapters.
I work in 3D and I can appreciate the work that has gone into this game but there is LOD and texture issues in the final product.
It might not bug you when you play it but it really detracted from my personal experience. Especially after the opening chapter, which looks so good and has such great art direction.
Keen to see if a patch helps.
First 15 seconds already tell me his review is entirely based on the original game and not the new one lol
It was already stated a long time ago that it was going to be episodic, and some people are giving bad scores because it isn't a full game? Ok then...
Sort of ironic, considering the original's only issue was blocky, non-detailed character models against a backdrop of beautiful world detail. Seems like they made a decision that the stuff you are looking at the most should be what gets the most attention.
Can't win for losing.
I think it throws objectivity out the window to do this.
I haven't watched the video but the project is selling on nostalgia, so it's just a fallacy if people try to dismiss some reviews that compare it unfavourably to the original. The game is likely going to score well and sell very well, so no there's no need for damage control.
they do get REALLY lazy in some areas though..
not a spoiler
How are the devs lazy????
It has on the back of the box, at the bottom in smaller writing that it's just the first part. I think this problem is partly on SE.
People are really trying to damage control an 8.5 by questioning the integrity of the reviewer. Ok, it's officially FF7R review day. If some of y'all take issue with a reviewer scoring this game with the expectations that come purchasing and playing something called "Final Fantasy 7 Remake", then you are in for a long day as the rest of the reviews arrive. This game's main export is nostalgia. It's impossible to review this project as a stand-alone consumer good without viewing it comparatively to the source material.
Completely agree, you can try and not compare it to the original but they shouldn't be any shaming people that do. And it's bullshit when you're allowed to say "Honours the original" but not the other way round.
Agreed. And people are trying to negate that score quickly. Imagine if a rogue 7 or 6 hits the aggregate scores.
Hi, I speak for all developers when I say please shut your mouth. You don't know what you're talking about and it's making you look very, very ignorant.
Bad sidequests are exactly what I'd ding it for tho? Haven't watched the review, but I expect plenty of reviews to harp on sidequests.
They aren't. So much of this game is fantastically realized and beautiful. It's tragic the standards that they're held to, that somebody is going to point out a soap dispenser or whatever and say not enough polygons, lazy devs.
That is 100% going to happen. Always does no matter the game.
I'm excited to play. Overall the impressions have been really positive so I'm hyped
I mean I completely understand you all calling out people for calling reviewers biased.
But there was like one, two people who said something like that and now most of you have taken up a whole page complaining about them lol.
People who get angry about scores are stupid. Not even worth discussing
But there was like one, two people who said something like that and now most of you have taken up a whole page complaining about them lol.
People who get angry about scores are stupid. Not even worth discussing
It wouldn't shock me to see a few 7s but I think overall people are gonna enjoy it for the most part
It happens all the time in forums, always fallacies in review discussion, like in Death Stranding thread "it's because this reviewer can't handle something different", also remember "It's getting good reviews just because of Kojima's name" I haven't played it but I recognise that BS when I see it.
With FF VII, the excuse we're going to hear a lot is "Don't compare it to the original blah blah" well tough shit, the game is meant to make money off people's familiarity of the original, they can compare it all they want.
Not sure if you are joking? I get waiting for reviews but putting that much stock in a MC score might work against you.
For me the game, if I had to give a score is a 7 atm but it could easily be the game of the year for you.
I'd consider a 85 a success imo.
Some aspects of the game might not fit with western sensibilities(reviewers).
But then I noticed that Persona is sitting at a 94 on MC.... whaaaaaaa
Some aspects of the game might not fit with western sensibilities(reviewers).
But then I noticed that Persona is sitting at a 94 on MC.... whaaaaaaa
When I was a kid, I used to be like "Twilight Princess is going to be greatest game ever" Now I think if it's enjoyable for me, that's enough.
Right? An enormous portion of what makes this project so intriguing is seeing how they take the 1997 mega-classic and bring it into 2020 with modern tech. When Cloud and Co. arrive on screen in a trailer, the overwhelming majority reaction is "wow they nailed the look" and not "huh, so what's this Final Fantasy 7 game ... this spiky-haired guy looks neat, I'm sold!"
Specific recreations of specific moments (Cloud jumping off the train, Aerith's intro, Guard Scorpion fight, etc.) are there to tap directly into that nostalgia. It is impossible to disconnect this game from the expectations set from the source material.
User banned (2 days): doubling down on lazy dev rhetoric
im good... I'll post what i want! Just because you've worked on a few indie games doesn't mean you speak for "every developer" I see an insanely lazily low effort texture/polygonal object that has no business being that low res. I'm calling it what is.. which is lazy. They shouldn't have even put anything their at all if that's what they're gonna do.
They must have been busy though.... with other things like making this ps2 level foreground here..
No matter what Square does, there is going to be someone disappointed and I don't expect Square to appease everyone with the game.
Folks who wanted a straight up 1:1 Remake of the original with just a major graphical overhaul have already made issues with the game, and if Square did do a 1:1 Remake with just a graphics overhaul, you would have folks complain that there wasn't enough changes in terms of gameplay balance or difficulty.
That is the crux of dealing with an existing IP attached to a game with a high degree of nostalgia and renown. It's a catch 22.
As much as I prefer for publications to review FF7 Remake as its own thing based on its individual merits, there will be some reviews that will be a direct comparison with the original and will slant the scoring accordingly. I still expect decently high scores regardless.
Folks who wanted a straight up 1:1 Remake of the original with just a major graphical overhaul have already made issues with the game, and if Square did do a 1:1 Remake with just a graphics overhaul, you would have folks complain that there wasn't enough changes in terms of gameplay balance or difficulty.
That is the crux of dealing with an existing IP attached to a game with a high degree of nostalgia and renown. It's a catch 22.
As much as I prefer for publications to review FF7 Remake as its own thing based on its individual merits, there will be some reviews that will be a direct comparison with the original and will slant the scoring accordingly. I still expect decently high scores regardless.
im good... I'll post what i want! Just because you've worked on a few indie games doesn't mean you speak for "every developer" I see an insanely lazily low effort texture/polygonal object that has no business being that low res. I'm calling it what is.. which is lazy. They shouldn't have even put anything their at all if that's what they're gonna do.
They must have been busy though.... with other things like making this ps2 level foreground here..
Shame on you, sir.
Well that was needlessly rude towards a developer.im good... I'll post what i want! Just because you've worked on a few indie games doesn't mean you speak for "every developer" I see an insanely lazily low effort texture/polygonal object that has no business being that low res. I'm calling it what is.. which is lazy. They shouldn't have even put anything their at all if that's what they're gonna do.
They must have been busy though.... with other things like making this ps2 level foreground here..
im good... I'll post what i want! Just because you've worked on a few indie games doesn't mean you speak for "every developer" I see an insanely lazily low effort texture/polygonal object that has no business being that low res. I'm calling it what is.. which is lazy. They shouldn't have even put anything their at all if that's what they're gonna do.
They must have been busy though.... with other things like making this ps2 level foreground here..
Lazy is the wrong word and you really ought to just drop it from your vocabulary, because it's never really useful.
Perhaps what you mean to say is that you fail to grasp the design and budgetary decisions that went into putting different levels of funds and work into different aspects of the title.
im good... I'll post what i want! Just because you've worked on a few indie games doesn't mean you speak for "every developer" I see an insanely lazily low effort texture/polygonal object that has no business being that low res. I'm calling it what is.. which is lazy. They shouldn't have even put anything their at all if that's what they're gonna do.
They must have been busy though.... with other things like making this ps2 level foreground here..
Working on a "few indie games" is a lot better than working on fuck all games, period. Your hubris is impressive though, I'll give you that.
Your responses are incredibly ignorant and arrogant, and I'm surprised we let comments like this even exist on here because it's only meant to be inflammatory.im good... I'll post what i want! Just because you've worked on a few indie games doesn't mean you speak for "every developer" I see an insanely lazily low effort texture/polygonal object that has no business being that low res. I'm calling it what is.. which is lazy. They shouldn't have even put anything their at all if that's what they're gonna do.
They must have been busy though.... with other things like making this ps2 level foreground here..
im good... I'll post what i want! Just because you've worked on a few indie games doesn't mean you speak for "every developer" I see an insanely lazily low effort texture/polygonal object that has no business being that low res. I'm calling it what is.. which is lazy. They shouldn't have even put anything their at all if that's what they're gonna do.
They must have been busy though.... with other things like making this ps2 level foreground here..
How isn't this guy warned yet for lazy dev rhetoric
im good... I'll post what i want! Just because you've worked on a few indie games doesn't mean you speak for "every developer" I see an insanely lazily low effort texture/polygonal object that has no business being that low res. I'm calling it what is.. which is lazy. They shouldn't have even put anything their at all if that's what they're gonna do.
They must have been busy though.... with other things like making this ps2 level foreground here..
This post is embarrassing. I wonder if 'lazy devs' should be bannable?
people are going to get death threats when that happens.
it happens every single fucking time lol.
one less than glowing review becomes the only review that matters and it either makes what ever spoilers you read and hate legit or means that that reviewer is an unwashed hack who hates games....no inbetween lol.
Reviews should only be taken as a whole in terms of what is factual or not...everything else comes down to taste. So many 7s became my GOTY whereas 9s bored me to death but I knew better because I have eyes and can tell what I like or not by this stage. I use reviews to see what FACTUAL issues a game may have and go from there. SO many take them as gospel and only the ones that honestly already back up their preconceived notions...lets be real many know if they will enjoy this game or not by now...and are really just looking for things to back that up lol. The P5R review thread was funny because when the game came out in Japan, it seemed as if it sucked due to the vocal peeps who already was not into the game for whatever reason....
such a weird hobby we have lol
At risk of being warned/banned, you're an idiot who has no idea what they're talking about.im good... I'll post what i want! Just because you've worked on a few indie games doesn't mean you speak for "every developer" I see an insanely lazily low effort texture/polygonal object that has no business being that low res. I'm calling it what is.. which is lazy. They shouldn't have even put anything their at all if that's what they're gonna do.
They must have been busy though.... with other things like making this ps2 level foreground here..
Developers are underpaid and overworked. Game devs who work in this industry do so not for the pay, or the benefits...they'd almost certainly earn more in almost any other field...they do so because they're wildly passionate about games. They crunch long, hard hours and pour every ounce they can into these titles.
You think some developer sat there and said, yeah, I have the time, energy, and budget to make beautifully rendered medicine bottles, but you know what, I just want to go to Outback Steakhouse and sit on my ass? Fuck you. These things cost time and money. These things are universally limited by producers and the reality of game development budgets. When you only have a few hours to get something in, you get something in.
You see that foreground? It doesn't look great. Maybe Square could have done better with planning or budgeting, though a delay would cost untold hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars, so tough decisions have to be made. But *lazy*?! As in, a developer of Final Fantasy VII could have made a highly detailed, wildly exquisite backdrop but chose to put in what you posted? Fucking please.
Again, you're making yourself look like a rube with every continued post you make. I'd call it quits while you're behind, my guy.
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