Final Fantasy VII : Intergrade - PS5 features trailer

Naner · Mar 21, 2021

Eidan said:
It's free if you purchased the game. Doesn't seem scummy at all.

"Scummy" is that I spent $60 for Control and all of its DLC last March, but because I didn't buy the then unavailable "Ultimate" edition, I'm expected to pay an additional $40 for the PS5 upgrade. THAT is scummy.

It's kind of the same, really. Game Pass has Control which doesn't upgrade to Series X/S. In both cases, I had the option of playing at 30fps for free* or paying however much money for effectively a framerate cap removal. It's hard to justify paying a full price for a framerate/graphical improvement if I already have access to the older version.

Cupcake Knight · Mar 21, 2021

iosefe said:
there is no fee. the upgrade is free for owners of the Disc or digital versions. but since you have the plus version, which has no upgrade path, you'd have to buy the whole thing.

It was only mentioned the PS+ isn't eligible for the free update. Leaves the possibility open for a paid upgrade.
Locking the PS+ version out of playing the DLC without buying the whole thing leaves imho a lot of money on the table.

saintjules · Mar 21, 2021

LuminaryGhost said:
It's a free upgrade if you already own the PS4 version. If you're talking about getting it from PS+ and then expecting a free upgrade then I don't know what to tell you.

This. Especially you can probably find a physical version at half the cost now.

saintjules · Mar 21, 2021

Xenosaga said:
One thing I have noticed is that they seem to have removed hit-stop during Cloud's attack, and the parry during punisher mode as well.

PS4:

Cloud's final hit during his regular combo used to have small hit-stop

PS5

the hit-stop seems to be gone so it's more fluid I guess?

Also Punisher mode parry is super quick now.

EDIT: It's interesting that JP version of the trailer doesn't have hit-stop, while English version do? I guess it's still WIP.

I like that hit stop action too. Feels more like a 'critical hit' in some ways. Not a deal breaker for me, but it's flashy, which I liked.

bigbaldwolf86 · Mar 21, 2021

Looking forward to replaying this on PS5 but that fog looks like it washes out all the areas it's in and a lot of detail is lost.

saintjules · Mar 21, 2021

Hexnest said:
Really liking those improvements. Even though it's unlikely, I hope they ditch the PS4 for the future FF7R episodes.

I think this is why the Yuffie Episode is the segway to that and not being on PS4. It's a little odd in some ways just to have part 1 on PS4 only (if that ends up being the case anyway), but I'm fine with whatever happens.

Eidan · Mar 21, 2021

Naner said:
It's kind of the same, really. Game Pass has Control which doesn't upgrade to Series X/S. In both cases, I had the option of playing at 30fps for free* or paying however much money for effectively a framerate cap removal. It's hard to justify paying a full price for a framerate/graphical improvement if I already have access to the older version.

Is it the same? I paid full price for Control and it's DLC and I'm not getting an upgrade. In what scenario could you have bought FFVII remake and not get the upgrade?

Cupcake Knight · Mar 21, 2021

Eidan said:
. In what scenario could you have bought FFVII remake and not get the upgrade?

Having the disc and only a PS5 DE.

Zachary_Games · Mar 21, 2021

Can't wait. Never played a FF before, so FF:7R will be my first foray into the series. Graphically, I'm honestly surprised a lot of what is shown to be PS4 footage was even possible on last-gen hardware in the first place.

Lighting, and textures are pretty big improvements for PS5, despite the increased fog in some of those sections seemingly taking away from some of the detail. However, I'm sure onscreen in my living room it will look absolutely incredible on my LG OLED. With a lot of the details in fog showing their nuance.

Naner · Mar 21, 2021

Eidan said:
Is it the same? I paid full price for Control and it's DLC and I'm not getting an upgrade. In what scenario could you have bought FFVII remake and not get the upgrade?

Ah yeah, Control certainly sucks more if you bought it before. Both suck similarly if gotten via subscription.

Eidan · Mar 21, 2021

Cupcake Knight said:
Having the disc and only a PS5 DE.

Haha got me there.

Quinton · Mar 21, 2021

Comet said:
But it also does get easier when you grind and max weapons and materia.

For sure!

NediarPT88 · Mar 21, 2021

Zebesian-X said:
Gonna 100% the shit out of this game thanks to save transfers 🙏How challenging is hard mode?? Am I in for a rude awakening

No, I'm on chapter 13 and so far it has been easier than the 1st playthrough, the lack of itens doesn't bother me since I didn't use them that much in normal mode in the first place.

That said make sure to equip 2 HP materia so your health is on the 7k+ range since enemies do more damage, and ofc Chakra materia so you don't have to use MP to heal in general.

Also if you equip the EXP materia you'll easily reach lvl 50 (max) in the first 3-4 chapters since you get a lot of EXP in hard mode, I was surprised by how quick it was.

PlayerOne · Mar 21, 2021

Never played the original and skipped the trailers, so excited to play this in june!

TaleSpun · Mar 21, 2021

Lionheart said:
So there's a performance and quality mode, I wonder if the DLC will have the same options or since its PS5 only will it be rendering differently? If its the same engine it will be odd to exclude the PS4, but I hope they utilize the PS5!

It's gonna support the settings. You can see from the trailer footage with Yuffie and Sonon fighting that it's 60FPS.

KingBae · Mar 21, 2021

Am I seeing things or does the upgrade cost money in Japan? The Japanese trailer has what looks like a 100 Yen fee, while the English trailer says free. Interesting. Anyways, looking forward to replaying it and get that best girl Yuffie DLC!

NovumVeritas · Mar 21, 2021

KingBae said:
Am I seeing things or does the upgrade cost money in Japan? The Japanese trailer has what looks like a 100 Yen fee, while the English trailer says free. Interesting. Anyways, looking forward to replaying it and get that best girl Yuffie DLC!

Yeah. Same with Crash Bandicoot 4 upgrade. Also 100 Yen. I wonder why.

Mingoguaya · Mar 21, 2021

It looks so good. Almost makes me want to get a PS5.

VanDoughnut · Mar 21, 2021

The lighting upgrade is nice and the fog too. Will check it out since it's a free upgrade (bought the game).

key · Mar 21, 2021

Have we seen the door?

tabris · Mar 21, 2021

To confirm I should download PS4 version on my PS5 for the save transfer feature on a patch then delete it and install PS5 version?

Rendering... · Mar 21, 2021

Xenosaga said:
One thing I have noticed is that they seem to have removed hit-stop during Cloud's attack, and the parry during punisher mode as well.

PS4:

Cloud's final hit during his regular combo used to have small hit-stop

PS5

the hit-stop seems to be gone so it's more fluid I guess?

Also Punisher mode parry is super quick now.

EDIT: It's interesting that JP version of the trailer doesn't have hit-stop, while English version do? I guess it's still WIP.

No hit stop would be disappointing. Hit stop really enhances the sense of impact. A faster Punisher Mode counter would be great though.

Edge said:
Oh you're right! The gif removes it, it's still completely there in the trailer!

Whew, that's good.

ghibli99 · Mar 21, 2021

The fog almost makes some scenes look worse, but I love the fps bump and the texture and lighting quality are nice. Loading times are a massive improvement, as expected!

RevolverSaro · Mar 21, 2021

Is this trailer new? I feel like I saw this when they first announced Integrade.

Deleted member 35509 · Mar 21, 2021

Materia change in battle? That needs to happen.

ILikeFeet · Mar 21, 2021

RevolverSaro said:
Is this trailer new? I feel like I saw this when they first announced Integrade.

it's an extended version of that trailer

halcali · Mar 21, 2021

the music always gives me chills.

EVERY TIME.

NetMapel · Mar 21, 2021

I think the difficult question to answer still is whether I can purchase FF7R later digitally in order to qualify for this upgrade if I redeem the game via PS+ now. It seems like the consensus is no I am locked from ever being able to purchase FF7R digitally but I just want to double confirm that here if anybody got knowledge on this. Maybe I get the game now and play bits of it and decided later that I like it enough to buy it digitally for the Yuffie DLC or those other graphical updates. It would be a shamed if that's locked away forever because of PS+.

GearDraxon · Mar 21, 2021

I'd totally pay a $20 "upgrade fee" to go from my PS+ version to Intergrade...but paying full price? Nah.

Normanski 2.0 · Mar 21, 2021

Anyone know when the Yuffie DLC will be available for pre-order? my PS5 menu screen constantly taunts inter grade (it's literally to the right of the splash screen) but it's all currently listed as unavailable as I have the digital version installed.

TheAmazingSpiderMan · Mar 21, 2021

Can't believe there's still no 4K upload of this trailer anywhere, YouTube 1080p compression is all we have to go by?

Dreamwriter · Mar 21, 2021

Normanski said:
Anyone know when the Yuffie DLC will be available for pre-order? my PS5 menu screen constantly taunts inter grade (it's literally to the right of the splash screen) but it's all currently listed as unavailable as I have the digital version installed.

Only after you install Intergrade

SquareEnix said:
available for purchase after upgrading to the PlayStation 5 version

SquareEnix said:
After downloading the content to your system, the new episode featuring Yuffie is playable immediately through the PlayStation 5 version of FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE title menu. For new players of FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE INTERGRADE it is recommended to play the main campaign first, although not required.

Decarb · Mar 21, 2021

GearDraxon said:
I'd totally pay a $20 "upgrade fee" to go from my PS+ version to Intergrade...but paying full price? Nah.

You can grab it from amazon for $30, upgrade it for free, finish it and then sell it back.

RedHeat · Mar 21, 2021

Decarb said:
You can grab it from amazon for $30, upgrade it for free, finish it and then sell it back.

I'm never selling it!

GearDraxon · Mar 21, 2021

Decarb said:
You can grab it from amazon for $30, upgrade it for free, finish it and then sell it back.

*cries in PS5DE*

Zebesian-X · Mar 21, 2021

NediarPT88 said:
No, I'm on chapter 13 and so far it has been easier than the 1st playthrough, the lack of itens doesn't bother me since I didn't use them that much in normal mode in the first place.

That said make sure to equip 2 HP materia so your health is on the 7k+ range since enemies do more damage, and ofc Chakra materia so you don't have to use MP to heal in general.

Also if you equip the EXP materia you'll easily reach lvl 50 (max) in the first 3-4 chapters since you get a lot of EXP in hard mode, I was surprised by how quick it was.

Socivol said:
It gets easier as you go through it. Ironically Scorpion Sentinel was one of the hardest bosses for me on the hard run. You have to think much more strategically since you can't use items or recover MP during a chapter (outside of mako shards).

Quinton said:
It's fairly tough, mostly due to a particularly brutal elimination of a certain battle option.

Nice, sounds like quite the adjustment in the early-game! Should be manageable though, no items should make combat interesting 🤔 thanks for the breakdown

JB2448 · Mar 21, 2021

Exellus said:
I swear I've already seen this exact video weeks ago somewhere else.

It's an extended trailer (nearly double the length) from the one that was shown off at the latest State of Play:

Cornbread78 · Mar 21, 2021

I really hope we get Red XIII and Cait Sith DLC/eposodes as well. Yes, I'm a sucker

Gradly · Mar 21, 2021

The good part is the 60 FPS and loading times. Other than that, I'm not a fan of all that fog they implemented

Socivol · Mar 21, 2021

Cornbread78 said:
I really hope we get Red XIII and Cait Sith DLC/eposodes as well. Yes, I'm a sucker

It was announced Yuffie would be the only DLC for this game. I do think it is ironic we get to play as Yuffie before Red XIII.

PLASTICA-MAN · Mar 21, 2021

Why the video is still in 1080p quality just why? Wer can't admire anything added this way.

Also: https://kotaku.com/final-fantasy-vii-remake-intergrade-had-a-dedicated-tea-1846522539/

An entire team dedicated to lighting and still no RT? So surprising. They could even have included hybrid RT for the best of the world if they have such dedicated team but they still chose last-gen lighting for whatever reason.

Princess Bubblegum · Mar 21, 2021

PLASTICA-MAN said:
Why the video is still in 1080p quality just why? Wer can't admire anything added this way.

Also: https://kotaku.com/final-fantasy-vii-remake-intergrade-had-a-dedicated-tea-1846522539/

An entire team dedicated to lighting and still no RT? So surprising. They could even have included hybrid RT for the best of the world if they have such dedicated team but they still chose last-gen lighting for whatever reason.

Maybe they are partnering with Nvidia again for the inevitable PC release. Though even in that case, future games having RT should be a forgone conclusion (I think) so they have to be working on their own implementation.

LiquidSolid · Mar 21, 2021

tabris said:
To confirm I should download PS4 version on my PS5 for the save transfer feature on a patch then delete it and install PS5 version?

Correct. You don't necessarily need the PS4 version on your PS5 either, if you've still got your PS4 then the transfer will be exactly the same on it too.

PLASTICA-MAN · Mar 21, 2021

Also they still didn't specifiy whether you can be eligible to free PS5 version after buying the Deluxe Upgrade for the PS Plus version of the game before the promotion ends.

ILikeFeet · Mar 21, 2021

SapphiCine said:
Maybe they are partnering with Nvidia again for the inevitable PC release. Though even in that case, future games having RT should be a forgone conclusion (I think) so they have to be working on their own implementation.

UE4 has quite the comprehensive RT solution out of the box. if anything, I can see some of Nvidia's cross-platform additions making it in like their RTXGI and their denoising solution

NediarPT88 · Mar 21, 2021

Zebesian-X said:
Nice, sounds like quite the adjustment in the early-game! Should be manageable though, no items should make combat interesting 🤔 thanks for the breakdown

Just one thing, you still recover MP during battles automatically. It's a slow process but some weapons have 50% faster MP regeneration and others give you MP when you take big amounts of damage. So far I didn't have any problems with lacking MP.

I think early game should be much easier compared to normal because you have 8-10 slots for materia and also all abilities unlocked.

Cornbread78 · Mar 21, 2021

Socivol said:
It was announced Yuffie would be the only DLC for this game. I do think it is ironic we get to play as Yuffie before Red XIII.

Cait was the only other character they cameo'd but didn't really appear in the game past the quick images. I would love for they to build on that story as well goin into chp.2

VanillaCakeIsBurning · Mar 21, 2021

Any info on whether or not they are adding additional shortcuts?

Chaserjoey · Mar 21, 2021

PLASTICA-MAN said:
Also they still didn't specifiy whether you can be eligible to free PS5 version after buying the Deluxe Upgrade for the PS Plus version of the game before the promotion ends.

The deluxe edition is something completely different, I don't see why it'd be assumed that that acts the same way as an upgrade path when all it does it give some DLC, a mini-soundtrack, and an artbook.

Neoraxis · Mar 21, 2021

I don't mind part 2 having the exact same graphics quality as long as I play it at smooth 60 fps because the difference between the ps4 version and the ps5 version is night and day.

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