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Final Fantasy Monkey's Paw: 7 Remake Part 2 is great and 16's awful or 16's fantastic and 7 Remake sucks
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I would pick VII-R part 2 to flop because I want the franchise mainline series to continue to be successful.
FF7 remake bad, 16 great. Simply because 16 will be a complete game versus part 2 out of 3 or 4 or more. How many years/decades will it take before Remake: Complete Definitive version is released.
Make FF7R-2 amazing please. XVI being terrible would just be in line with XV and XIII, so nothing of value would have been lost anyway, while 7R2 being terrible means you've killed the one modern Final Fantasy series I've enjoyed to date.
I think it's more important they get FF7-2 right, since there's definitely also going to be a FF7-3 , and it would hurt FF7R retroactively.
If 16 sucks they can have it be a single entry they move on from.just ignore it and move on from.
That said I think 16 is probably easier to get right, as it has less baggage behind it and for FF7-2 they're going to make some hard choices about the structure.
If 16 sucks they can have it be a single entry they move on from.just ignore it and move on from.
That said I think 16 is probably easier to get right, as it has less baggage behind it and for FF7-2 they're going to make some hard choices about the structure.
VII is already perfect. The remake can be garbage, and that doesn't hurt my love for the original. XVI being a mess would hurt me more.
As much as I want both to be excellent, and think they will be, I'd pick XVI being great and VIIR2 being awful.
It would suck, but we already have VII and VIIR1 whereas XVI is a brand new entry. So I'd rather that was great if there can only be one.
It would suck, but we already have VII and VIIR1 whereas XVI is a brand new entry. So I'd rather that was great if there can only be one.
VII is by far my fav, and Remake Pt 1 is one of my favorite games ever. I'd rather that one be great.
FF7 Remake Part 2 (and how many parts after that) being "perfect" would be the bigger accomplishment given what they've set up already in Part 1.
There will always be more original RPG's if 16 fails. The scale of the Remake project + the scale of original's legacy makes for something we likely won't see again for years, if not decades in the industry.
There will always be more original RPG's if 16 fails. The scale of the Remake project + the scale of original's legacy makes for something we likely won't see again for years, if not decades in the industry.
That model has certainly come a long way from Rolanberry Fields
I really enjoyed 7R, and 13 and 15 have both disappointed me. Obviously I hope 16 is fun, but I'm fine with that trend continuing.
Heck, every now and then I consider giving 13 another shot. I feel like if I lean into the Paradigm battle system rather than trying to take direct control all the time it should be fun, plus 13-2 has a Pokemon system with the Paradigm thing going on and 13-3 has a weird job change action combat system that looks fun. Like, I'm open... in theory. Just kinda exhausted on it all. The 20-hour tutorial... (although I'm now 80 hours into Wrath of the Righteous and still haven't gotten to become a Lich...)
Heck, every now and then I consider giving 13 another shot. I feel like if I lean into the Paradigm battle system rather than trying to take direct control all the time it should be fun, plus 13-2 has a Pokemon system with the Paradigm thing going on and 13-3 has a weird job change action combat system that looks fun. Like, I'm open... in theory. Just kinda exhausted on it all. The 20-hour tutorial... (although I'm now 80 hours into Wrath of the Righteous and still haven't gotten to become a Lich...)
It's the more logical result.
Regardless of how successful or unsuccessful XVI is, it's likely going to have its mechanics retired just like X,XII,XIII, and XV. It will be another 5+ years before XVII comes out with brand new mechanics and XVI will have basically no effect on it.
VIIR is getting at least one more game, maybe even multiple games. It being a failure has massive implications, VIIR could finally give us a consistent supply of high quality FF games that we've been begging for for 2 decades, we want it to be successful.
FF7 Remake Part 2 will give me more Aerith, a hopefully a better realized Tifa, and more Yuffie. So I can count on that. Don't got a lot of faith in XVI to not be extremely focused on men.
Remake Part 1 is evidence that enough polish and confidence can make a total misfire still land with a lot of gamers. I don't think anyone would notice or care if Remake Part 2 is as bad or worse.
7-2 should keep up the great work and make an amazing trilogy or something out of it. FF16 is it's own standalone thing and can be dreadful and we'll move on waiting for the next one, kinda like FF13 :D
lol this question is amazing Quint, can I pleasure share it on the site sometime?? 😂
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By all means! Though I'm not sure folks will find it pleasurable :P
A new mainline entry being a big win is always going to be preferable over sequel/spinoff material, especially when the original VII is already great.
FF7R2 has given us no indication of the upcoming scope or combat changes coming outside of whatever we can glean from the Yuffie DLC.
FF16's gonna have DMC-style enemy steps and snatches all over the place.
This is the easiest poll I've ever seen on this site.
FF16's gonna have DMC-style enemy steps and snatches all over the place.
This is the easiest poll I've ever seen on this site.
Too easy given that I don't like FF7. I'll go the extra mile and say I'd hope the bad Part 2 would be enough to kill interest in FF7 completely. I don't hate FF7, but it would be fun to see.
If I get super monkey pawed and FF7 bombing kills Final Fantasy completely, oh well. More time for SMT.
If I get super monkey pawed and FF7 bombing kills Final Fantasy completely, oh well. More time for SMT.