Final Fantasy 7 Remake box recommends 100GB free space

[Neilg]

I'm genuinely surprised why it's taken so long for the industry to adopt more practical compression solutions.. why are people okay with games requiring 70+ gb?

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You cant use compression with 3d models, textures or audio for games which are pulling data off an old shitty laptop drive. assets also need to be duplicated like mad so that the hard drive doesnt have to reach too far to stream them into memory.

the next gen of consoles with custom SSD drives could potentially result in much, much smaller file sizes. it might not, but it could.
custom hardware to handle decompression is also cheaper these days so that can take some of the load off the cpu, we'll see soon if the new consoles feature hardware to support this. I suspect they both will.
multiplatform games will not support this, so COD will still be 150gb+, only exclusives can take advantage.

 

[DarkChronic]

I'm 99.99 percent joking when I say this but any shot this game pulls a MGS2 and they've only been releasing screens of the Midgar part and the whole game is in here lol

 

[Suede]

This game is going to look insane.

 

[Socivol]

I'm 99.99 percent joking when I say this but any shot this game pulls a MGS2 and they've only been releasing screens of the Midgar part and the whole game is in here lol

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We already know from the leaks this is not the case. It ends exactly where they have been saying it ends.

 

[yurr]

1TB, ships in 2032. And no I'm not trying to be a jerk, if they're adding so much to just Midgar, I can't imagine how much they'll add to other various scenarios like The Gold Saucer.

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Lol I can't believe people think this series of games will keep this level of ambition. I expect it to less so each new entry. Sales will reflect this.

 

[DrewM1788]

Man judging by some of these expectations (especially ones that refuse to accept it ends with the Midgar escape) this game has an insane uphill battle ahead of it. I guess it was always going to be that way though.

 

[chandoog]

I'm 99.99 percent joking when I say this but any shot this game pulls a MGS2 and they've only been releasing screens of the Midgar part and the whole game is in here lol

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As much as I would flip my shit if this happens ..

it won't :(

 

[Deleted member 56752]

I have a 500 gb slim. Cmon man. I have to delete like 3 games for this

 

[night814]

I have a 500 gb slim. Cmon man. I have to delete like 3 games for this

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With the way PS4 works too if the install package is 100 gb or so it will require double that too fully install it for the digital download, not sure if it's the same with installs from the disc.

 

[Macnair]

That would have take 30 to 40 minutes to download.

 

[Deleted member 56752]

With the way PS4 works too if the install package is 100 gb or so it will require double that too fully install it for the digital download, not sure if it's the same with installs from the disc.

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Ima buy it on disc tho so it don't matter. I can get it for 5-10 cheaper if physical

 

[zswordsman]

That would have take 30 to 40 minutes to download.

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Stealth brag comment about his internet speed :'v

 

[N.47H.4N]

Cyberpunk 2077 is 2 disks ?

 

[Zukuu]

100gb, that's at least an hour download.

 

[koutoru]

Well, I guess I know what I'll be spending day 1 doing then...but it'll be worth it.

 

[EvilBoris]

That would have take 30 to 40 minutes to download.

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If only PSN went that fast for me

 

[EvilBoris]

I'm genuinely surprised why it's taken so long for the industry to adopt more practical compression solutions.. why are people okay with games requiring 70+ gb?

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You have to decompress it into something at some point, it takes time to decompress and it takes lots of CPu to decompress.

So you'd have a bandwidth saving, but would be left with a game that takes 2 hours to unpack and/or a console that can't be used when it's unpacking.Not a great experience

 

[Deleted member 18400]

I still can't figure out how they made the opening section of FF7 into a game this large.

I still think this shit is going to be as ridiculous as FF15 was when it comes to story telling.

 

[dharmapolice]

Final Fantasy XV sits at about 95gb on my PS4. Nobody bats an eye.

 

[chandoog]

That would have take 30 to 40 minutes to download.

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Not on my connection the fuck it won't ..

Final Fantasy XV sits at about 95gb on my PS4. Nobody bats an eye.

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FFXV didn't start that big though. It started as a standard ~45GB-ish game and all the updates and DLC added up.

 

[Max|Payne]

Wait guys, hold up. I'm going to e-mail SE with a link to download WinRAR. Perhaps there will be enough time for them to compress the game down to just 3 CD-ROMs.

 

[PlanetSmasher]

I'm gonna be blunt, this just seems like really shitty compression to me. Midgar is not nearly substantial enough story-wise to justify wasting that much HDD space.

Final Fantasy XV sits at about 95gb on my PS4. Nobody bats an eye.

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They patched it last year and cut the download size down by half by removing Comrades and turning it into its own app, though. My FFXV install is 46GB or so.

 

[ultima786]

I'm gonna be blunt, this just seems like really shitty compression to me. Midgar is not nearly substantial enough story-wise to justify wasting that much HDD space.



They patched it last year and cut the download size down by half by removing Comrades and turning it into its own app, though. My FFXV install is 46GB or so.

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You know everything behind the scenes does ur dad work at nintendo

 

[PlanetSmasher]

You know everything behind the scenes does ur dad work at nintendo

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I'm just being realistic.

 

[Deleted member 679]

Not an issue to me, but I still wish I didn't have to download things like audio in languages I'll never use, or 4K prerendered videos. Hopefully next gen we'll have more freedom with that kind of stuff.

 

[Famassu]

I know it's been brought up, but nothing at all in their marketing or artwork denotes that this is only part 1 of a remake series. I don't think I've even seen it reiterated in interviews or press coverage. They're likely keeping it quiet to not confuse consumers, but is there any chance that this is the whole game?

Edit: Nevermind, found several articles debunking my question

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This is blatantly false. On the official website it's on the front page ("The story of this first, standalone game in the FFVII Remake project covers up to the party's escape from Midgar") and SQEX store has similar info in the second paragraph that this is the first part of this remake saga and they've reiterated that fact multiple times during showings that this would only take us up to the escape from Midgar. They aren't trying to hide it, their messaging about it has been quite clear ever since they revealed this would be more than one game in, like, early 2016 or whenever it was (well, they only revealed it's up to Midgar last year, but the multigame part has been repeated).

They've even given their reasoning why there are no subtitles or anything, like it or not (they think a subtitle could make this seem like a spin-off, and numberings could make it seem less than it is or something like that).

 

[The Last One]

I'm gonna be blunt, this just seems like really shitty compression to me. Midgar is not nearly substantial enough story-wise to justify wasting that much HDD space.

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My god...

 

[ZeroMaverick]

I still can't figure out how they made the opening section of FF7 into a game this large.

I still think this shit is going to be as ridiculous as FF15 was when it comes to story telling.

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This seems to imply there was any actual storytelling in FF15.

 

[Famassu]

I still can't figure out how they made the opening section of FF7 into a game this large.

I still think this shit is going to be as ridiculous as FF15 was when it comes to story telling.

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Midgar is a huge metropolis. You traverse through a fairly significant portion of it even in the original game, it's just obscured by fucktons of loading screens that can push you forward a lot. Now imagine that experience but in a more realistic scale and through (almost) entirely seamless gameplay in fully 3d environments (imagine how much connective tissue you have to make to make the OG FFVII Midgar traversable without loading screens to skip traversal). + some old environments are slightly larger to allow for a bit more exploration (instead of the claustrophobic OG locations) + some expansion & additions on top of that.

 

[PlanetSmasher]

My god...

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Think about it. FFXV is only 46GB, and it's an open world game. There's NOT ENOUGH stuff in FFVII's Midgar chapter to justify 100GB. This is a compression thing, not a content thing.

 

[Lifejumper]

Think about it. FFXV is only 46GB, and it's an open world game. There's NOT ENOUGH stuff in FFVII's Midgar chapter to justify 100GB. This is a compression thing, not a content thing.

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But... stay with me here.... what if they added stuff to the midgar section?

naaahhh? too crazy right?

 

[PlanetSmasher]

But... stay with me here.... what if they added stuff to the midgar section?

naaahhh? too crazy right?

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It's Square Enix. They've shown virtually NOTHING new so far. I'm sorry, but you'll have to forgive me for not thinking they're going to add FIFTY GIGABYTES WORTH OF BRAND NEW, UNIQUE CONTENT that they refuse to talk about, show off or advertise a month before launch.

 

[ultima786]

But... stay with me here.... what if they added stuff to the midgar section?

naaahhh? too crazy right?

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If they didn't show PlanetSmasher the extra content, it must not exist.

adding an extra disk of content is extra money square would have to spend on logistics. Why would they do that, for fun? Or perhaps they actually have a hefty game prepped?

 

[Famassu]

It's Square Enix. They've shown virtually NOTHING new so far. I'm sorry, but you'll have to forgive me for not thinking they're going to add FIFTY GIGABYTES WORTH OF BRAND NEW, UNIQUE CONTENT that they refuse to talk about, show off or advertise a month before launch.

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this isn't true. They've shown new stuff. Cloud and co didn't just magically teleport to the sky in parachutes. Some sequence of events not from the OG game will get them there. The new Soldier dude seems like he could be a recurring enemy (at least 2-3 times) and that'll take time to resolve that's completely extra to the OG scenario. There's the shadow tornado and their seemingly numerous appearances throughout the game. We fight Jenova. I imagine that whole shebang is going to be some ~30 minute thing (including cutscenes prior to and after the fight). We know they've expanded locations like the train graveyard by quite a lot. There's all the connective tissue between the original locations that'll alone add a huge amount of new content. Then there's stuff like the Honey Bee Inn that seems somewhat expanded upon and more of a spectacle (probably won't add hours to the game but smaller things do add up as well).

And who knows, maybe the recent preview event was meant to showcase the expanded upon aspects of the remake and we'll hear about it soon

 

[Faenix1]

It's Square Enix. They've shown virtually NOTHING new so far. I'm sorry, but you'll have to forgive me for not thinking they're going to add FIFTY GIGABYTES WORTH OF BRAND NEW, UNIQUE CONTENT that they refuse to talk about, show off or advertise a month before launch.

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Or maybe they're saving the new stuff for launch, and current marketing is directed at nostalgia. We can't 100% know until release. We don't even know exactly how big the Midgar map is going to be, it could be a huge open world-ish map densely filled with random BS.

 

[PlanetSmasher]

Or maybe they're saving the new stuff for launch, and current marketing is directed at nostalgia. We can't 100% know until release. We don't even know exactly how big the Midgar map is going to be, it could be a huge open world-ish map densely filled with random BS.

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You don't hide an open world, that's marketing material. I'm sorry, that's not how you sell a game AT ALL.

 

[Datajoy]

Nice. Love a good beefy file size. These days for $59.99 I feel like anything under 70GB is kind of a rip off.

 

[Devilgunman]

It might have VA from every language possible.

 

[Deleted member 7883]

That's too spicy of a bad take for me to engage in. Nvm.

 

[Princess Bubblegum]

I can only imagine the size of the inevitable PC port.

 

[Famassu]

You don't hide an open world, that's marketing material. I'm sorry, that's not how you sell a game AT ALL.

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Being open world doesn't automatically mean a larger file size or being more linear doesn't automatically mean smaller file sizes. At this point this remake has been in development for longer than FFXV. It's not unfathomable that they'd have created more assets to fill up this much space. FFXV might've been open world but it also had a lot of asset repetition. FFVII is constantly pushing you to new unique locations and the remake will have even more of it with it having to create all the connective tissue between all the OG locations. It's gonna be really dense + I'd say most everything is of higher quality than FFXV on average, so that's probably upping file sizes too.

 

[PlanetSmasher]

Being open world doesn't automatically mean a larger file size or being more linear doesn't automatically mean smaller file sizes. At this point this remake has been in development for longer than FFXV. It's not unfathomable that they'd have created more assets to fill up this much space. FFXV might've been open world but it also had a lot of asset repetition. FFVII is constantly pushing you to new unique locations and the remake will have even more of it with it having to create all the connective tissue between all the OG locations. It's gonna be really dense + I'd say most everything is of higher quality than FFXV on average, so that's probably upping file sizes too.

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We'll see what happens. I just have no faith in them pulling out a positive surprise - Square is very, very blatant about what's in their games. They don't like secrets outside of their endings. They market EVERYTHING.

 

[Famassu]

We'll see what happens. I just have no faith in them pulling out a positive surprise - Square is very, very blatant about what's in their games. They don't like secrets outside of their endings. They market EVERYTHING.

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My point wasn't that they are hiding that all of Midgar is actually explorable. My point was that a relatively empty area of wilderness with some repeated rocks and trees and 10 different enemy types of FFXV that you run around in for 2 hours can take less space than a 2 hour segment of FFVII that takes us from extremely detailed busy city streets to a train tunnel and then a train graveyard and five other completely different locales (& the pathways connecting them) that has 20 different enemy types, several cutscenes and one or two cinematic boss fights thrown in there for good measure. Density & quality of the content matters too.

 

[ZeroDS]

We'll see what happens. I just have no faith in them pulling out a positive surprise - Square is very, very blatant about what's in their games. They don't like secrets outside of their endings. They market EVERYTHING.

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I thought I was pessimistic. Man does it even pay off to be like this? I can understand not trusting SE considering their track record recently but man I feel like it's impossible to discuss anything with you. One thing I have to give you though is that you've definitely been a constant over this last half year in regards to this game lol

 

[PlanetSmasher]

I thought I was pessimistic. Man does it even pay off to be like this? I can understand not trusting SE considering their track record recently but man I feel like it's impossible to discuss anything with you. One thing I have to give you though is that you've definitely been a constant over this last half year in regards to this game lol

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I mean, it CAN. If they actually pull it off, it'll be a pleasant surprise. If they don't, at least I won't have gotten my hopes up, you know?

 

[ZeroDS]

I mean, it CAN. If they actually pull it off, it'll be a pleasant surprise. If they don't, at least I won't have gotten my hopes up, you know?

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I mean I get that but it's also fun hoping it's going to be good. I'm quite excited for it but if it turns out that they mess it up at least I have the memories of looking forward to it and also the original game still. Different strokes for different folks though eh

 

[PlanetSmasher]

I mean I get that but it's also fun hoping it's going to be good. I'm quite excited for it but if it turns out that they mess it up at least I have the memories of looking forward to it and also the original game still. Different strokes for different folks though eh

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I'm so tired of being let down. I spent literally a decade waiting for Versus and - this is not hyperbole or a joke - at one point, needing to get closure on that goddamn game was the only reason I didn't kill myself when my depression was at its absolute worst.

I can't put that kind of hope into anything they make anymore, outside of YoshiP and his team. It's just been too many letdowns, y'know?

 

[Datajoy]

That's too spicy of a bad take for me to engage in. Nvm.

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It's a joke

 

[j7vikes]

It's gonna take me AT LEAST 3 days to download this game with my internet. Wish devs would properly compress shit and think about those of us with trash internet. And that's with the BEST internet currently available to me.

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Day 1 purchase. Day 7 play!

 

[headspawn]

This game is going to be PS5-Ready.