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Fighting EX Layer: Another Dash announced for Nintendo Switch
- Thread starter mockingbird
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Neat. Will keep an eye on this to see if it's any good. If it can manage to hold a steady 60fps I'll probably grab it.
In this update/new version, some of the techniques that were restricted to the Gougi system are now universal mechanics. Stuff like the homing jump, and the combo breaker are now universal mechanics, instead of mechanics you can only use when using certain Gougi decks.
I'm interested! ARIKA also developed rollback netcode for Fighting EX Layer, so maybe the Switch version will have it too? I'd be interested in hearing if the other versions get this update as well.
I'm interested! ARIKA also developed rollback netcode for Fighting EX Layer, so maybe the Switch version will have it too? I'd be interested in hearing if the other versions get this update as well.
It's the game they have. They can either release this or nothing at all.
Maybe it wasn't that difficult to port over and they want to recoup as much as they can.
Hey I ain't knocking their decision if that's the only hand they have to play right now. Its just I never hear anyone talking about Fighting Layer in the same way games like Street Fighter, Tekken or Guilty Gear retain a long term audience.
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Because they were saving it for the fighting game developer roundtable that's going on right now.
Not any weirder than Ryu vs. Terry happening again in Smash Ultimate.
FEXL is a ton of fun. This revision is Switch only, though? I wonder why they didn't just post the existing version.
Switch doesn't have many fighting games like this so it's definitely a niche, might get some attention it didn't before.
I remember Samurai Shodown v porting devs saying that Switch had some hardware limitations for full rollback netcode compared to pc and desktop consoles. Fighting Layer is a more demanding game too.
Lets see
I'll be honest, it should have been in the direct. Far more people would have seen that compared to this.
Fighting EX Layer: Another Dash announced for Switch - Gematsu
So it is different than the original. Very intriguing. It seemingly is custom-built for Switch. :D
So it is different than the original. Very intriguing. It seemingly is custom-built for Switch. :D
The amount of overhead you have running an emulated Neo Geo game vs. a UE4 game is way, way different.
Correction
After relooking it was ss collection
They're a small developer with next to no marketing budget. They have nowhere near the amount of resources those other franchises have. Shit's hard out there.
It's actually a pretty fun game.
You'd think Nintendo would happily put it in the Direct no strings attached as they've been a close partner for over a decade and made two F2P NSO games (Tetris 99 and SMB 35).
Sure but like, Arms has rollback.
Oof. Maybe they actually should've hired Codemystics instead of DE then.
Arms was made natively and solely for Switch, by Nintendo, using their own tech, with infinitely more money and people.
Arika said on stream that they only started this port a month ago, and they intend to have it out by April Fools Day.
I'm pretty certain that the Power Rangers fighting game has rollback netcode, and crossplay between every other version. I can see this new version of Fighting EX Layer having rollback netcode.
How on Earth can they do the port in only like... 4 months!?
Also according to Gematsu, it's when MORE INFO is released, so are you mistaken?
Power Rangers and several indie fighters have rollback too. It doesn't seem like a real herculean task to manage it on Switch, even if Digital Eclipse couldn't while emulating NeoGeo games.
This isn't even the normal Fighting Ex Layer. This is like a scaled down variation rather than a port.
Most of those games were developed with netcode in mind--FEXL wasn't, and adapting rollback for a game designed without it has its own challenges.
Again, this is a super-quick port, too. They really should wait until the rollback's done until they launch, but that's on them.
A scaled down variation is what a port would be.
This sounds more like something made specifically for the Switch
Heh, I completely forgot both were in that. It looks like there's no Capcom copyright in the trailer for this anyway, so it's looking like no SF guest. SNK is still listed, though I wonder if Terry will be part of the base game this time or still DLC.
It looks the game will have delay based netcode at first, but then will upgrade to rollback later. As I said earlier, I'd be interested in seeing if the other versions of FEXL get this update, or if it will just be Switch exclusive. It'd be a bit weird for this version to have all these gameplay updates, but not any of the other versions.
The last release also feels so incomplete. Will they continue to update it? Would be a shame if they won't.
No it was added for Power Rangers (as was full crossplay). I dunno if Arika will have it or not (or maybe later) I'm just speaking to Switch's suitability at doing rollback. A Unity game like Power Rangers did it, 1st party arena fighter Arms did it, multiple indie games have too (Skullgirls 2E, Fantasy Strike, Pocket Rumble, etc) and coincidentally so did a big UE4 multiplat with MK11. There doesn't appear to be an insurmountable technical hurdle to implementing rollback on Switch given the range of titles that already have.
edit: appears it'll launch with delay based and then update to rollback. Good news then!
It'll be a steady 60fps. It would completely defeat the point otherwise. No other genre is dependant on keyframes and framing timing as a fighting game and every single major fighting game on the Switch has always hit 60FPS. This includes DBFZ, Blazblue Cross Tag, The major SF ports, even MK11.
The only exception to the rule is SNK Tag Heroines.
PR had rollback from day 1 (and the only reason it didn't have full crossplay was because of Sony. The crossplay infrastructure and account system were there from day 1 as well).
Oh, I thought it was added but you're right. It had earlier crossplay for Switch and Xbox too.
Holy shit, this is a MUCH clearer and better video than the one in the OP. I was just about to post complaining about the visuals, but your video alleviates all my concerns.
Twitter video compression truly sucks.
An insider with a good track record said just last year companies had to do that though?