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FIFA Women's World Cup 2019 || 7 June – 7 July, France

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Heshinsi

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Netherlands is damn good, i think they have the ability to beat the USA if they make it it to the finals.
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The defence has been spotty here and there. The Italians couldn't take advantage of it, and Japan exposed how bad it got at times. The Americans are quite frankly scary. I'm going to be fuming if Beerensteyn isn't started from here on out. I think attack wise the talent is there to take it to the US. The defence has to be better though.
 

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VAR was fine. The pen was a little soft, but it was still a pen as it was enough to stop her from hitting the ball.
 
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steviejd1 said:
Well I'm certainly rooting for whoever the USA play in the final. Trying to dis our culture, spy on us, make an amateur team cry by scoring 13 past them in a WC. Fuck them.

England were the usual England in a semi-final, nothing more to say there.
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You disrespected them more. They are not amateurs...
 
XMonkey

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Whew, what a tense game. Agreed with all of the VAR decisions. Gotta bury your penalty kicks.

Onto the next.
 
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Heshinsi said:
The defence has been spotty here and there. The Italians couldn't take advantage of it, and Japan exposed how bad it got at times. The Americans are quite frankly scary. I'm going to be fuming if Beerensteyn isn't started from here on out. I think attack wise the talent is there to take it to the US. The defence has to be better though.
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Yeah If their Defense can hold I think Netherlands are the only team who can put 2 on US in this tournament, other than France.
 
Heshinsi

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Podge293 said:
Because what happens in the real world is teams have set penalty takers. Houghton is obviously the English peno taker
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Except Houghton wasn't England's first choice penalty kicker, it was Parris. So if Parris is off because of her two saved penalties, why wouldn't you have White take the shot? Remember, two previous penalties were saved. So the strategy is to go with a defender rather than your most clinical finisher?
 
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Podge293 said:
What??? The decisions that were reviewed were fine. Made perfect sense.

I didn't agree with the peno but the decision to use VAR there made perfect sense
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So many complaints even outside of this tournament over VAR use. It's putting regular rules in question.

I think there is a place for it but it's been far from consistent in it's implementation and use.
 
Podge293

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Heshinsi said:
Except Houghton wasn't England's first choice penalty kicker, it was Parris. So if Parris is off because of her two saved penalties, why wouldn't you have White take the shot? Remember, two previous penalties were saved.
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Cuz Houghton was obviously the second choice taker? Deputised to first cuz of the two missed penos

Every team decides peno takers before a game. Its rare it's a decision made on the pitch unless a team is up like 2 or 3 goals and someone is on a hattrick
 
Dernhelm

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Good managers usually put their best strikers on penalties.
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Nah tbf it is based on consistency from the spot, there was a similar stink about Milner taking a kick off of Salah because of his role (though in that instance he scored as he does almost every time, so the decision to follow pecking order paid off). No matter your natural position, every player who plays professionally can score a penalty, not just strikers. But, point still stands that missing consistently throughout a tournament means some major rework needs on things like dedicated PK takers.
 
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Podge293 said:
Because what happens in the real world is teams have set penalty takers. Houghton is obviously the English peno taker

You tend not to deviate from set takers just cuz someone else on the pitch scored
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Actualy Parris is the penalty taker. Guessing you don't watch England women very much. Not being salty...but yeah okay I am.
 
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Heshinsi said:
Except Houghton wasn't England's first choice penalty kicker, it was Parris. So if Parris is off because of her two saved penalties, why wouldn't you have White take the shot? Remember, two previous penalties were saved. So the strategy is to go with a defender rather than your most clinical finisher?
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Is White a penalty taker at her club? If she was good at penalties, she would have probably been chosen.

There were several defenders who were excellent penalty takers, like Fernando Hierro, even goalkeepers, liker Rogerio Ceni or José Chilavert. It's not about being a striker or not.
 
perfectchaos007

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I wonder how long the US Side knew they would be without their best player today. Gutsy performance to come out and take care of business either way
 
Podge293

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Rental said:
So many complaints even outside of this tournament over VAR use. It's putting regular rules in question.

I think there is a place for it but it's been far from consistent in it's implementation and use.
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People will always complain about VAR. The fact its correct clear and obvious fuck ups is the only plus you need to see. If it misses some sure it misses them. Would have been missed anyways.

Getting any right call is better than getting all wrong calls
 

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You disrespected them more. They are not amateurs...
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Huh, we didn't disrespect anyone...?

Also I was talking about the Thailand game with regards to being amateurs, perhaps read what I posted a bit more carefully. The USA team are not a likeable bunch. The only thing likeable about them is how they hate trump.
 
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steviejd1 said:
Huh, we didn't disrespect anyone...?

Also I was talking about the Thailand game with regards to being amateurs, perhaps read what I posted a bit more carefully. The USA team are not a likeable bunch. The only thing likeable about them is how they hate trump.
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Omg this post is amazing. He's talking about calling Thailand amateurs.
 
Lee Morris

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Good managers usually put their best strikers on penalties.
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You know nothing about football! You treat it like all a penalty is about kicking a ball. There is so much too it, especially in a world cup semi final. Pressure, nerves, blocking out the crowd.

Also managers don't pick penalty takers. It's up to players to raise a hand and put themaelves forward.
 
MarauderShields

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steviejd1 said:
Huh, we didn't disrespect anyone...?

Also I was talking about the Thailand game with regards to being amateurs, perhaps read what I posted a bit more carefully. The USA team are not a likeable bunch. The only thing likeable about them is how they hate trump.
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Yeah there would be nothing disrespectful about playing keep away for 30 minutes like they are playing against children
 
Podge293

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Lee Morris said:
You know nothing about football! You treat it like all a penalty is about kicking a ball. There is so much too it, especially in a world cup semi final. Pressure, nerves, blocking out the crowd.

Also managers don't pick penalty takers. It's up to players to raise a hand and put themaelves forward.
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Nah managers 100% pick peno takers
 
Heshinsi

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Ganzlinger said:
Is White a penalty taker at her club? If she was good at penalties, she would have probably been chosen.

There were several defenders who were excellent penalty takers, like Fernando Hierro, even goalkeepers, liker Rogerio Ceni or José Chilavert. It's not about being a striker or not.
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I know it's not about being a striker or a defender. But when you have two straight penalties saved on your team, and you're in a must score penalty shot moment, why wouldn't you take the chance on the most consistent scorer on your team? Look at how England set up at the end there when they were down to 10 players. They were willing to take the chance to equalise even if it meant risking conceding a third goal.
 
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It was interesting to see the field open up with Rapinoe out, as much as she was missed (hopefully she's in for the cup). US showed that they're pretty damn deep, folks who subbed stepped up
 
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Heshinsi said:
I know it's not about being a striker or a defender. But when you have two straight penalties saved on your team, and you're in a must score penalty shot moment, why wouldn't you take the chance on the most consistent scorer on your team? Look at how England set up at the end there when they were down to 10 players. They were willing to take the chance to equalise even if it meant risking conceding a third goal.
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Maybe cuz she's really shit at penos in training?
 
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When the penalty was called I flashbacked to the Canada penalty where Beckie caused a horrible miss and the Swedish keeper blocked it. And it happened again. There have been so many PK saves this world cup.
 

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MarauderShields said:
Yeah there would be nothing disrespectful about playing keep away for 30 minutes like they are playing against children
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Yeah so beat them so heavily that it's a record and they get humiliated on the world stage as well. Not to mention how they were celebrating every one of those 13 goals.

Anyway, I don't know why I'm bothering to argue in a US-centric forum like this...
 
Distantmantra

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I honestly think the only way people would like a talented US team is if they forfeited the tournament and denounced their country and citizenship. Otherwise it's the same old same old.
 
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