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FIFA Women's World Cup 2019 || 7 June – 7 July, France
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At least we never elected a white supremacist and put children in cages, urh urh...
Get your shit together.
Lol he's serious too, go educate yourself, you seem to need it.
They're not comparable at all. Saying a team "stole" or "robbed" a win is common sports talk.
Americans don't need a foreign invader to have concentration camps ;)
We'll see.
Salt over racist stereotypes? Hmmm... yeah, I take exception to racist fucking stereotypes? I take it you're fine with them. Congrats.
Arm was in a natural position, defender wasn't trying to make her silhouette larger, it's obviously not a handball.
Seriously, more salt please. Need them for my freedom fries
All the high and mighty people here act like the second USA loses they won't pile the fuck on
Thanks. That should not be a handball by the spirit of the rule, but I have to say that handballs like that get called constantly. FIFA has a huge problem with this as it is not consistent.
Consistency is the most important thing with refereeing in any sport. This is what gets players and fans pissed at umpires in baseball. You have to be consistent.
I personally think this should not be a penalty but it is hard to argue that this isn't while the rest in the tourney were.
That's not racism. It's nationalism. This is why you all are always confused on this topic, isn't it?
The wording about handballs was changed earlier this year and went into effect on June 1st. Parts of the change were specifically done to make sure that plays like the one in the game today were not called handballs. From David Elleray, technical director of IFAB, the stewards of the rules of soccer:
As a fellow American, could you please stop being needlessly antagonistic? There's really no need for that crap on a thread about sports.
Some of these takes seem a lot more aggressive than just regular "banter".
One is typical sports salt, the other is shitty US jingoism that lowers the discussion. You're going to have the former in every sports thread, but we should avoid the latter.
It's some xenophobic bullshit perpetuated by people with little grasp on history. There's a reason it made a resurgence along with the freedom fries nonsense in the 2000s.
Being needlessly antagonistic is what sports are all about! Especially when it's country vs country.
It's not textbook handball. She didn't open her arms to make herself larger. The movement of her arms was completely natural. To call it "textbook handball" is a load of crap.
Completely agree. Looking at some of the other penalty handballs given in this tournament prior it should have been a pen.
I agree, but some of this "sports salt" about the US team has more than a bit of anti-U.S. bite to it.
I'm sorry but you can't possibly see that from that angle. Sure it looks like the foot his the line but that's a pretty thick and made up line haha
Check what you specifically quoted. Nice work
Nationalism has a different meaning. Racism was the wrong label too. Stupid prejudice would be probably more correct. In any case, unexpectedly heinous development to the conversation, you guys have fun.
In any case, calling it an offside can't be said to be a mistake in this situation.
I had absolutely no idea so many people took actual offense to France "surrendering" banter. It was 80 years ago people... how can anyone let such a low hanging fruit type of jab upset them ? It's like calling all Americans gun nuts or fat and lazy or idk anything that is clearly so absurd that it's not meant to be taken seriously whatsoever
You re right. Insults and prejudice are fine. Glad we got that cleared out. Jeesus.
It's pretty obviously not a handball by this specific rule. People saying it should be are nuts.
Is this sarcasm?
Not really that clear. I see her hands behind her torso. I don't consider that positioning to be a natural silhouette, which would be hands besides the torso. It's pretty vague as far as filling goes.
Let's keep this thread in good nature
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There's good natured ribbing and then there's trolling with hateful mockery. Don't make things personal over who wins a game.
Because those stereotypes were used again when France opposed the Iraq War.
Sweet lord what is wrong with some of you. No it's not ok to have shitty nationalist stereotypes. My point was you're letting someone wind you up over a football game by falling for lazy troll bait comments. Just take a breath. Also, you can't curse the USWNT to hell for calls not made and then act sanctimonious
Feel like many of these people screaming handball watch soccer only every world cup. Just because the ball hits an arm doesn't mean it is handball. Read the rules, watch the play. Calling handball on that would have been an awful call.
I thought France would win and I do think they were overall the slightly stronger team but soccer doesn't always reward that in a single match setting. I think it was a huge mistake by Ellis to go 5-4-1 the last 25 minutes as they were just inviting pressure against a team that is incredible in the air. They got away with it though and US played solid. I think the US will beat England although the difference between the two is small.
I hope that game results in:
And the one who staggers to their feet to win is so burned out for the finals, it's a cakewalk for us (if we make it hopefully).
Handball have been an issue ever since VAR came into place, so not really.
Just look at PSG-Man U in the CL for exemple.
One is a very arguable fact, the other is a nationalistic insult. Go figure which is which.
So, insults are fine because they are jokez?
Because it has been used unsarcastically (typically coupled with the words "cheese eating surrendering monkeys") since 2003 by people who were butthurt that France dared opposed the mighty USA over a war built on lies. It's not typical national banter, it actually has some racist roots to it.
Any objective look at France's military history will also show that it's also factually incorrect.
