a squeeze on that narrow of a track, at those speeds, with that speed difference between cars, in partly wet conditions is an insane thing to do
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FIA Formula One 2021 |OT| I've got to stop... because I've got a lump in my throat
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There was still enough of a gap on track for Russell without the need to go on the grass
It's not the bit of a squeeze that is important. It's the fact that he moves "late" at those kind of speeds in a very narrow track. Where you in Russell's position you would have been pissed and also spooked about it.
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Russell can suck a dick for criticizing Bottas after a crash as severe as that honestly. Dude hasn't even gotten his breath back
which is why it's 50/50, not all-bottas. bottas moved late and unexpectedly which spooked russell, russell overcorrected to bottas moving in the moment and moved too far right onto the grass/wet.
It was an error but I need to see how much room (if at all) Russell gave to Lewis going into Tosa (turn 7) before he planed off into the gravel.
None of the replays support the idea that Bottas made a significant enough move and left Russel with no viable space. Russel's onboard in particular shows more than enough for his rear to not hit the grass.
Or maybe you accept the risk, and have the talent, when overtaking on the outside at the entry to a corner on slicks where there's wet all around?
For me it was 100% Russel's fault. Bottas was minding his own business and even let Russel enough space. But Russel got too wind on the right, slipped on the grass and crashed into the german.
Look at this still fron onboard Russell:
This is a frame or two before he is on the grass, you can clearly see:
a) Bottas is keeping left, he's only half on the dry patch racing line. He's in no way "veering right"
b) there's a huuuuge gap between the cars as far as wheel-to-wheel F1 racing is concerned.
You can clearly see from onboard that Bottas was left and veered slightly right as Russell was approaching. At that speed that a matter of milliseconds. Also if you pay attention it wasn't the rear but the right front that touched the grass. George got spoked and corrected and dipped a wheel. This isn't 100% Russell's fault at all
I really don't understand how anyone can blame Bottas even a little bit. Russell just lost it.
But isn't half the grid starting in the wet? How is that fair?
This is when Bottas has stopped swerving right and is heading left again. Misleading. You can see it on Kimi's onboard.Look at this still fron onboard Russell:
This is a frame or two before he is on the grass, you can clearly see:
a) Bottas is keeping left, he's only half on the dry patch racing line. He's in no way "veering right"
b) there's a huuuuge gap between the cars as far as wheel-to-wheel F1 racing is concerned.
Look at that squeeze. So unfair!Look at this still fron onboard Russell:
This is a frame or two before he is on the grass, you can clearly see:
a) Bottas is keeping left, he's only half on the dry patch racing line. He's in no way "veering right"
b) there's a huuuuge gap between the cars as far as wheel-to-wheel F1 racing is concerned.
Look at this still fron onboard Russell:
This is a frame or two before he is on the grass, you can clearly see:
a) Bottas is keeping left, he's only half on the dry patch racing line. He's in no way "veering right"
b) there's a huuuuge gap between the cars as far as wheel-to-wheel F1 racing is concerned.
tbf you can't prove either way if someone veered from a still.
yeah this is how I read it as well. It does look like bottas car twitches. I also kinda think given the conditions, bottas would have known George had a run on him, that movement across may have caused an incident. I don't know it George could have backed out of it. In dry conditions both would have got away with it. Probably.
Also you gotta realise these are split second decisions. You can't frame freeze and say Bottas was left no fault there.
a still frame doesn't do it justice though at those speeds. russel fully expected Bottas to stay on the left (which i think he should've) and he didn't which made him overcorrect and run into a bit of grass. nobody is faultless here.Look at this still fron onboard Russell:
This is a frame or two before he is on the grass, you can clearly see:
a) Bottas is keeping left, he's only half on the dry patch racing line. He's in no way "veering right"
b) there's a huuuuge gap between the cars as far as wheel-to-wheel F1 racing is concerned.
I mean, the dry racing line shows exactly where Bottas has the right to be on the road.
Is it weird that I hear your post in the voice of principal chalmers from The Simpsons?
It looks like the entire grid area is pretty dry, to the point where I don't think the off line part will be that much of a hindrance.
If you go onto the grass at that speed, even in the dry you risk going around like that.
if someone throws a fist at you out of nowhere but doesn't actually hit you, you're still gonna flinch.Look at this still fron onboard Russell:
This is a frame or two before he is on the grass, you can clearly see:
a) Bottas is keeping left, he's only half on the dry patch racing line. He's in no way "veering right"
b) there's a huuuuge gap between the cars as far as wheel-to-wheel F1 racing is concerned.
this is a still photo of the moment when the fist is closest to your face.
Look at this still fron onboard Russell:
This is a frame or two before he is on the grass, you can clearly see:
a) Bottas is keeping left, he's only half on the dry patch racing line. He's in no way "veering right"
b) there's a huuuuge gap between the cars as far as wheel-to-wheel F1 racing is concerned.
Jesus, look at how much space Russell has there. I get that people have a disappointment-boner for Bottas, but he is in no way to blame for this incident.
Seems like a lot of you are ignoring the fact that this happens in a kink to the left, Bottas did definitely not stay on the inside line.
Still a racing incident though, and I imagine Russel would not have slapped bottas on the helmet if he wasn't greeted by the finger and probably some other words.
Still a racing incident though, and I imagine Russel would not have slapped bottas on the helmet if he wasn't greeted by the finger and probably some other words.
Localized entirely within the Emilia Romagna Grand Prix?
Then that person shouldn't be a professional boxer.
Would be kind of fucked up considering half the grid would start in the wet
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