FFVIII is perfection. Used to be my fav ff, until the ff game to end them all released. The true godly FFXV.
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FF8 is such a weird game
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I assume there's a logical fantasy reason for a school hockey team to consist of over a hundred players...
Yes, their numbers are the important part, instead of things like them being monsters and them being there while the area has been taken over by another military body.I assume there's a logical fantasy reason for a school hockey team to consist of over a hundred players...
I love this game.
Loved it when it came out; loved it each replay every few years; loved how things that were baffling the first time through made perfect sense (well, *some* sense) on subsequent playthroughs. This and FF12; love them both even if most of the world seems to like them the least.
And I'll always love the OST.
I enjoyed discovering that you could fight the Galbadian hockey-playing monsters on the rink right there in the Garden, but what is this "over a hundred" referring to?
Loved it when it came out; loved it each replay every few years; loved how things that were baffling the first time through made perfect sense (well, *some* sense) on subsequent playthroughs. This and FF12; love them both even if most of the world seems to like them the least.
And I'll always love the OST.
I enjoyed discovering that you could fight the Galbadian hockey-playing monsters on the rink right there in the Garden, but what is this "over a hundred" referring to?
It's a great game but undoubtedly the weakest of the PS1 trilogy, with the plot being all over the damn place and the draw system.
Nah, a lot of people dislike FFIX and prefer the aesthetic of FFVII and FFVIII to it.
This is one of the only mainline FFs I haven't played at least a little bit of, and I am so damn excited about finally playing when the remaster is out. The way people talk about all the weird shit makes it sound amazing and 1000% up my alley.
It's true. I'm not saying there aren't a lot of people that love it, I'm saying there are also a lot of people that dislike it. It's a divisive game like FFXII (to a somewhat lesser extent than FFXII, mind you).
There are people who hate every FF game. But IX is commonly considered one of the best in the series despite that.
VIII is unquestionably the most divisive of the PS1 games. It's strange to even argue that.
Chiming in, I hated 9. I hated the whole cast, especially Zidane and Vivi. Vivi I can understand people liking, I don't know how anyone could like Zidane as a main character. The best party member is only temporary. The battle system is extremely slow, and the character building with skills from weapons is a bore.
It's got good music though.
I love IX because of its medieval setting and the wars / battles happening over the land. The towns are cool to explore and feel alive, especially Treno and Lindblum. However, I too agree that the party isn't that interesting. I do appreciate some of the humor and more lighthearted elements though.
If only others were as open as you, I've always felt like IX gets off too easy for being "traditional". Like people are afraid to say anything bad about it, lest the "Classic FF" vultures swoop in on them or something. Every game in the series is worthy of its own specific criticisms, there is no perfect Final Fantasy.
But I've never felt that way about VII or VIII, people aren't scared to shit on those games. VII has its graphics and VIII has its Junction/Drawing, like those are easy sticking points for a lot of people, but I don't regularly hear anything about IX criticized as openly.
Yeah, I think it has more good in it overall compared to other FFs. But each definitely has something or another that is either a flaw or an inconvenience , depending on folks opinions. I personally don't like how FFVI splits the party at moments, and FFVIII levels up enemies as well, on top of the junction system which i personally think is terrible. I kinda like what XV did for the draw system. XIIIs linearity and weapon customization... But super fun battles and paradigms... etc
I can't stand IX. Everything felt so tropey to me. Granted I haven't played it since like 2000, but from memory:
I hated almost the entire cast.
- Zidane was annoying and pushy and I just didn't see any charm to his personality at all. I also couldn't figure out why he was any kind of "leader".
- Vivi was cute, but at a certain point I felt like he was too whiney for too long. I never felt like he actually grew.
- Freya was a balla.
- Steiner was like that annoying oaf character, except he wasn't endearing.
- I never bought that Garnet actually had any emotional connection to the Queen. This is probably more because the design for the Queen is so monstrous that I couldn't see her as an actual person.
- Eiko's was completely forgettable to me.
- Quina exists, and unfortunately I've never really liked blue magic.
- I actually like Armarant's attitude towards things, but his reason for joining the group was super lame.
I legit felt like I never understood the trance system.
I felt like the art style would have been great for a cartoon, but because of the polygonal limitations I legit could not tell what I was looking at all the time. I never had any idea if I was talking to someone's face or backside. I remember thinking this within 5 minutes of the game with the Tantalus troupe. I had no idea what these characters looked like, so it became hard to attach to them at all. (this probably wouldn't be so bad on a HD remake or whatever)
As someone who really gets into the music of these games, and can remember almost the entirety of the OSTs of FFVII, FFVIII, Super Mario RPG, and Crono Trigger. I legit cannot remember a single song from FFIX.
The new version actually touched up the major characters' models.
Dozens of us!
I wonder how well it would be regarded if it came out first and 7 and 8 came out later.
hell yeah
just played through that part in mgs2 where the colonel says shit at you, and then raiden starts normally talking to rosemary after walking back and forth in that corridor, still makes me feel like im hallucinating/sane in an insane world. the way snake just appears and nonchalantly starts talking to you
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IX Is pretty good but a lot of people have some nostalgia googles going on simply because it was "The FF that went back to being fantasy instead of modern". It's a good game and far better than the disaster that XIII and XV were, but it's by no means "one of the most beloved".
By sheer numbers its VII.
Although VIII is my absolute favorite. The whole game was just perfect for me.
By sheer numbers its VII.
Although VIII is my absolute favorite. The whole game was just perfect for me.
It doesn't exist. It seems to be big VIII fans projecting onto another FF.
Every FF has its vocal haters but there's no denying that VIII is easily the most divisive of the PS1 trilogy.
I admit my opinion is probably dated, as I haven't touched the game in almost 20 years.
But it is foreshadowed since the first five minutes of the game.
That doensn't make it good. It felt like such a WE MUST HAVE PLOT-TWIST moment to me. Laguna stuff was great though.
My problem with the twist is that it doesn't really mean anything in the end.
The team just finds out that they knew each other as kids and it doesn't change or mean anything save for Cid's relationship with Edea and explaining some of Irvine's weirder elements. It's the game's biggest twist and it has no impact on the actual main character.
Contrast with FFVII where Tifa's reluctance to dispel Cloud's fiction is something that's a key element to her character that she has to overcome in her own arc.
Contrast with FFVII where Tifa's reluctance to dispel Cloud's fiction is something that's a key element to her character that she has to overcome in her own arc.
Again, every single FF has people who hate it. Even VII. But VIII has a very long history with sparking constant debates as to its quality for 20+ years now. That doesn't happen with VII or IX, which are largely more agreed upon.
That is completely unrelated to the quality of the twist.
definitely my least favorite ff, and the only ps1 rpg i owned that i sold as soon as i beat it, as the mere idea of replaying it after i beat it was impossible. I still have zero desire to ever replay it. i dont begrudge those who love it, i just dont understand it. same with chrono cross, though i did enjoy that game to an extent.
FF8 definitely had some weirder story elements (Or plot twists if you want to call them that).
Like, the whole "we grew up as orphans together but don't remember" thing is weird, and is really hard to relate to. The only thing it actually does is help you better understand Squall's isolation since he was pretty much abandoned several times as a child.
Which, of course, brings us to the better plot twist that Laguna was Squall's father. That one takes a bit of digging, and is super easy to miss when you play the game, but I thought it was a very interesting component. Especially if you put together the idea that Laguna and Julia would both go on to have children that would end up falling in love themselves.
Which makes the third plot twist, all the more tragic. Look, I know this shit isn't technically confirmed, and even Square flat out said it isn't true original, but have sense come around to the idea. But I still 100% believe that Squall died in the Time Compression and that when we see him at the end of the credits, that is legit a peak at Rinoa's first step into madness.
Like, the whole "we grew up as orphans together but don't remember" thing is weird, and is really hard to relate to. The only thing it actually does is help you better understand Squall's isolation since he was pretty much abandoned several times as a child.
Which, of course, brings us to the better plot twist that Laguna was Squall's father. That one takes a bit of digging, and is super easy to miss when you play the game, but I thought it was a very interesting component. Especially if you put together the idea that Laguna and Julia would both go on to have children that would end up falling in love themselves.
Which makes the third plot twist, all the more tragic. Look, I know this shit isn't technically confirmed, and even Square flat out said it isn't true original, but have sense come around to the idea. But I still 100% believe that Squall died in the Time Compression and that when we see him at the end of the credits, that is legit a peak at Rinoa's first step into madness.
I'm not a big fan of 9 either. I think its the worst of the ps1 trilogy. 8 has the best music of the trilogy, with 7 behind it and 9 you can easily tell that Uematsu was starting get bored with the series. I played 9 around when it came out, again a few years later on my ps2, and I recently played it again last year. I still dont get why its regarded as one of the best in the series. Its just OK.
For the record, I subscribe to the "Squall dies being unable to get back to his own time" theory. Which is a precursor to the Rinoa is Ultimecia theory.
I've never been a fan of the Squall actually died at the end of Disc 1 stuff.
And there is plenty of evidence for the former. Or even if not evidence, there are plenty of things that some would consider foreshadowing.
It's been confirmed as non-canon by the FFVIII Ultimania.
I'm assuming that is the source. The problem though, is that the source may be outdated. Since that Ultimania has come out, Square has started flirting with the idea of Rinoa being Ultimecia themselves. I never played it, but I recall someone saying that Ultimecia has some attacks in FF Dissidia names after Rinoa's weapons in FFVIII, or something along those lines.
Ah ok. That link is a Kotaku interview with Kitase. I was confused because you said FFVIII Ultimania.
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