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Volimar

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Oct 25, 2017
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I was hoping for the same of the Lee statue in Richmond. Also, you should date these "Feel good" stories in the title if you're going to make a thing out of them.
 

Slayven

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Oct 25, 2017
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Look at how cheap that shit looks and sounds

tells you everything about why it is there
 

Jegriva

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oh no.

The art.

These monuments were for the most part built way after the Civil War by nostalgic of the Confederacy. They have no historical value whatsoever
 

Lonestar

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They also tried to knock down this huge obelisk one in Linn Park, but were unable. The Mayor at the time promised to do so legally, if given 24 hours.

Mayor just put in a 7 pm curfew, and stated the removal of the statue is to keep citizens safe (from falling on themselves) as well as the salvage of the statue if the confederacy wants it back (or a museum). I think the latter bit was spoken while winking, but I was listening on the radio.
 

Palette Swap

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Oct 25, 2017
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oh no.

The art.

These monuments were for the most part built way after the Civil War by nostalgic of the Confederacy. They have no historical value whatsoever
I'm curious to know when this one is from. Because yeah, a majority of them were built as signal beacons afterwards.

They also tried to knock down this huge obelisk one in Lynn Park, but were unable. The Mayor at the time promised to do so legally, if given 24 hours.

Mayor just put in a 7 pm curfew, and stated the removal of the statue is to keep citizens safe (from falling on themselves) as well as the salvage of the statue if the confederacy wants it back (or a museum). I think the latter bit was spoken while winking, but I was listening on the radio.
Honestly, "it's gonna come down anyway, so let's do it officially so that no one gets hurt" is a great political cover.
 

Slayven

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Yeah, I remember when that one was taken down a few years ago, and it just totally collapsed because it was so thin and hollow.
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Temascos

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Who was the statue representing? Comments in the Twitter feed say it's Thomas Jefferson but wasn't he one of the founders of the USA? Why would that be considered a Confederate monument?

Sorry if I'm mistaken.
 

Lonestar

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Yeah, they need bigger chains, and probably put it nearer the top, to get that down.
 
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DrForester

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Who was the statue representing? Comments in the Twitter feed say it's Thomas Jefferson but wasn't he one of the founders of the USA? Why would that be considered a Confederate monument?

Sorry if I'm mistaken.

I've heard it was Charles Linn, who was in the confederate navy.
 

Era Uma Vez

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As a non-American, it blows my mind that there is such a thing as confederate monuments.
Wasn't the confederacy the side that wanted slavery to keep being a thing? Isn't that flag with the stars in a circle, basically a big "I'm a Racist pig" sign?
How da fuck do you make statues out of that?
And why did it take this protests for it to get removed?
And how many of them are still left?
I have so many questions...
 

Hero_of_the_Day

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Oct 27, 2017
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I would love for this to be widespread. I know it's not really feasible because the racists will start coming out with guns. But, man, it'd be fucking great if protests just started smashing every single one of the monuments to racism.

As a non-American, it blows my mind that there is such a thing as confederate monuments.
Wasn't the confederacy the side that wanted slavery to keep being a thing? Isn't that flag with the stars in a circle, basically a big "I'm a Racist pig" sign?
How da fuck do you make statues out of that?
And why did it take this protests for it to get removed?
And how many of them are still left?
I have so many questions...

I'm sure there are un-countable numbers of them around. It is fucked up. Every once in a while one will get taken down, legally, and the racists throw a fucking fit about "destroying history".

Interestingly, Robert E. Lee, the commander of the confederate army, was even against monuments being built, essentially saying the country would never heal if we memorialize the civil war. So, even that racist ass mother fucker saw the writing on the wall.
 
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Sleve McDichael

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Good. Destroy them all.
They've had years to take down the monuments of hate and put them in museums. Time for them to go.
 

Video Kojima

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As a non-American, it blows my mind that there is such a thing as confederate monuments.
Wasn't the confederacy the side that wanted slavery to keep being a thing? Isn't that flag with the stars in a circle, basically a big "I'm a Racist pig" sign?
How da fuck do you make statues out of that?
And why did it take this protests for it to get removed?
And how many of them are still left?
I have so many questions...
Half of American leadership is legit the confederacy that was never eradicated. The confederacy runs America right now.
 

Lonestar

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As a non-American, it blows my mind that there is such a thing as confederate monuments.
Wasn't the confederacy the side that wanted slavery to keep being a thing? Isn't that flag with the stars in a circle, basically a big "I'm a Racist pig" sign?
How da fuck do you make statues out of that?
And why did it take this protests for it to get removed?
And how many of them are still left?
I have so many questions...
I think the stars in the circle is the original American flag?


This one? That's the Betsy Ross flag, 13 stars for 13 Original States

Confederacy had a Blue X on an Orange background, with stars inside the X portion.
 

HockeyBird

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As a non-American, it blows my mind that there is such a thing as confederate monuments.
Wasn't the confederacy the side that wanted slavery to keep being a thing? Isn't that flag with the stars in a circle, basically a big "I'm a Racist pig" sign?
How da fuck do you make statues out of that?
And why did it take this protests for it to get removed?
And how many of them are still left?
I have so many questions...

Southern leaders were allowed to largely remain in power after the Civil War. So nothing fundamentally changed about the politics in those states for a long time. The defeat of the South was glamorized as this "noble" cause. Statues were put up and laws put in place to make it illegal for local governments to take down the statues.
 

Massicot

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As a non-American, it blows my mind that there is such a thing as confederate monuments.
Wasn't the confederacy the side that wanted slavery to keep being a thing? Isn't that flag with the stars in a circle, basically a big "I'm a Racist pig" sign?
How da fuck do you make statues out of that?
And why did it take this protests for it to get removed?
And how many of them are still left?
I have so many questions...

It's a comedy bit, admittedly, but John Oliver goes a bit into it here, including when most of these were built.
 

mreddie

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Oct 26, 2017
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A monument for the losers.

Good they tore it down but they might just replace it again.
 

SpitztheGreat

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As a non-American, it blows my mind that there is such a thing as confederate monuments.
Wasn't the confederacy the side that wanted slavery to keep being a thing? Isn't that flag with the stars in a circle, basically a big "I'm a Racist pig" sign?
How da fuck do you make statues out of that?
And why did it take this protests for it to get removed?
And how many of them are still left?
I have so many questions...
It's a long and complicated history. In short, a desire for reconciliation after the war and deep systemic culture of white supremacy led to pro-Confederate supporters being able to turn a defeat into a propaganda victory.
 

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As a non-American, it blows my mind that there is such a thing as confederate monuments.
Wasn't the confederacy the side that wanted slavery to keep being a thing? Isn't that flag with the stars in a circle, basically a big "I'm a Racist pig" sign?
How da fuck do you make statues out of that?
And why did it take this protests for it to get removed?
And how many of them are still left?
I have so many questions...
A not-small number of Americans still fully support what the Confederacy stood for. A co-worker of mine has a Confederate flag symbol on her front license plate. We work with many African Americans, which just shows you how comfortable we've made blatant racism in this country.
 

Era Uma Vez

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I cant quote all of you, but thanks for the responses. It's kinda depressing that the answer boils down to: "Cuz 'Merica"

I think the stars in the circle is the original American flag?
This one? That's the Betsy Ross flag, 13 stars for 13 Original States
Confederacy had a Blue X on an Orange background, with stars inside the X portion.
I was talking about this one, but yeah, I guess the one with the blue cross is the most used, nowadays.
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It's a comedy bit, admittedly, but John Oliver goes a bit into it here, including when most of these were built.

I do love some John Oliver, thanks friend, I'll give it a watch.
 

Lonestar

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Oct 25, 2017
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I cant quote all of you, but thanks for the responses. It's kinda depressing that the answer boils down to: "Cuz 'Merica"


I was talking about this one, but yeah, I guess the one with the blue cross is the most used, nowadays.
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I do love some John Oliver, thanks friend, I'll give it a watch.
oh yeah, forgot that one existed.
 

Reym

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I wanted to say to melt them down and turn them into something useful, like parts to help improve infrastructure or something, but that'd be sort pointless considering people in this thread pointing out what shit quality and materials these things were made of...

just like the confederacy!

Sick burn, self.
 

take_marsh

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Oct 27, 2017
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This should be the beginning of turning the southern dream of another confederacy into ashes. Destroy everything they hold dear about the "old south". Monuments destroyed, park and street names changed, and most importantly: history books reflecting history accurately.

The south needs to be put down for good.



A worthwhile thread appears at the right time.


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State AG Approves Removal of Confederate Statue

Lonestar

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https://abc3340.com/news/local/birm...-can-be-removed-alabama-attorney-general-says

Birmingham's Confederate monument can be removed, Alabama attorney general says

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (WBMA) — Birmingham can remove its Confederate monument downtown at Linn Park if it chooses to, by law, Alabama's attorney general said Monday.

Quote from State AG Steve Marshall
Should the City of Birmingham proceed with the removal of the monument in question, based upon multiple conversations I have had today, city leaders understand I will perform the duties assigned to me by the Act to pursue a new civil complaint against the City. In the aftermath of last night's violent outbreak, I have offered the City of Birmingham the support and resources of my office to restore peace to the City.

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