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Feel Good Story Of The Day (June 20): Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Goes All In, And Calls Trump Rally "White Supremacist Open Mic"
- Thread starter DrForester
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I wouldn't hold my breath at the DNC ever letting that happen. Especially not if Biden wins.
If you thought Bernie was unpopular, moderate voters will run straight away from her. Progressive candidates have no chance in this country.
Remember when the incel who leaked this deleted their twitter account when he realized that normal people don't get irrationally angry at the sight of a woman having fun. Dude had like 20k followers. 😂
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Yeah, AOC really represents a new era of representatives. She's tapped into the community in so many ways, plus she's smart, passionate, and courageous. Her charisma and excitement also take her a step beyond and feels like a breath of fresh air from so many politicians who just seem tired and stuck in the same political games.
I'm usually cautious of really buying into the hype around politicians, but AOC really has made an impression on me and I can see why the left loves her and the right already hates her. Her star is shining bright.
I don't agree at all. Bernie was a bad candidate multiple times that I'm still convinced couldn't have beaten trump on his best day. If in a decade aoc wanted to run, I think she would be welcome with open arms.
She's been living rent free in republican heads for years.
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It took less than a decade for the tea party conservatives to completely take over the Republican Party. We need to quit approaching progress from the top down, and focus more on building a progressive foundation at the state and local levels. Somebody like AOC gets elected when people in "swing" states get comfortable with progressive platforms, and that only happens if we show up for primaries and midterms. Additionally, millennials and zoomers are considerably leftward of the rest of the country. Most of us have shifted left with age, not right. I know I have. As boomers die off, progressivism will be inevitable, and AOC (or another progressive) will have a viable path to the presidency.
AOC wins in 2032, hands down. Millennials will be middle-aged and hitting their 50+ years, and zoomers will be well established in their careers and lives.
All indications point towards a hard shift left for this country, within a generation. That's why Republicans are fighting so hard to install hack conservative loyalist judges at every level, and why they're fighting to suppress the vote. They know they're on the clock and they're unwilling to adapt their platform to new constituents.
Mmmm, the chaser to my vote for her today.
I am meh on Bernie but very much in on her. She seems to be completely antagonistic to the right, well-regarded in my district, building bridges in DC fairly quickly, and handled the balance of media and policy talk fairly well.
As someone in her district, vocal Sanders supporters can paint you as being very left, whereas being a vocal AOC supporter does not. She has leftist bonafides but moderate, populist imaging. This I think puts her in a really interesting place.
I am meh on Bernie but very much in on her. She seems to be completely antagonistic to the right, well-regarded in my district, building bridges in DC fairly quickly, and handled the balance of media and policy talk fairly well.
As someone in her district, vocal Sanders supporters can paint you as being very left, whereas being a vocal AOC supporter does not. She has leftist bonafides but moderate, populist imaging. This I think puts her in a really interesting place.
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Don't worry, those assholes will die off in a decade, we just gotta survive hell.
I fully agree with you. I see her or a similar candidate doing great.
This. AOC is seriously the best thing that happened to the progressive movement in the US; a smart and blunt politician who doesn't have the air of anger and desperation seep whenever they talk.
Indeed. There's only one newsletter that I've ever subscribed in my life to and it's AOC's. A politician with opinions that I actually agree with?! Who would've thought? Each evisceration of Trump brings a smile to my face.
Basically my take.
There was a naive hope that with Bernie we could've accelerated America into a more progressive future right now. That clearly isn't the case, but that also doesn't mean that that future isn't possible. That means we have to go the long way around, i.e. spending a decade+ voting in progressive candidates and encouraging progressive policies.
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Thanks to whichever mod fixed the typo in the thread title. Had a tab open, noticed it, refreshed and it was fixed.
I get why you say that. But isn't the logical next step when the country sees just how crazy one side is, like Republicans, to shift over to the other side? You could argue she is coming up at the perfect time about now. Idk, I'm still hopeful even though you probably are completely right.
I think AOC and other progressive of this new generation understand the importance of mobilizing the securing votes for local elections. It seems like the Tea Party laid the blueprint for how to shift a focus within a party in the U.S. and Bernie's 2016 campaign was a spark on the left for what a new movement could look like. I think part of the energy and mobilization is what helped the midterms have some pretty surprising flips and gains in the House (something I had heard conventional wisdom was saying a decade or so ago that the Republicans had locked down due to gerrymandering, voter suppression, etc. and Democrats couldn't compete with their gameplan since they focused so much of their energy on national elections and swing states), but the fact that they did it, I think people don't give enough credit to the mobilized people helping to make it happen and put so much of the emphasis on Trump pushing people away. The thing is that there were plenty of examples of diverse representation in politicians getting elected, progressive candidates pulling ahead of moderate Democrats, and Dems making a mark in deep red races in Republican strongholds, which also would be unthinkable several years ago.
Also, many zoomers have gotten old enough and informed enough about politics and the world to really start to give a shit, and the shift has helped to shake many millenials out of their apathy. AOC really does represent this sort of nexus between the two generations, and came at a crucial time to help energize young voters that a change can happen within the system. Just personally, AOC is one of those politicians where I listen to her and actually feel like she has a perspective that gels with my worldview; like she "gets" me. It seems hokey to personalize a politician and think of them in those warm and fuzzy terms (and it definitely is something people shouldn't get too comfortable with since no one is perfect and we don't really need to be putting politicians on an untouchable pedestal, no matter how good they are), but at the same time, she represents a voice and perspective that we seldom see given a platform in the media to the same degree, and I can see all the qualities that she is able to check off as not just a person with good ideas, but also with a personality and savvy that makes her a force to be reckoned with.
Even if AOC doesn't jump on the path to an eventual presidency, I think she represents the type of politician I'd like to see more of, and I think she could definitely help to influence others like her to get involved in politics when they didn't think politics was for someone like them.
Im not convinced simply because she doesnt have to run as soon as shes eligible. She could run in 15-20 years and do two terms when the electorate is.... slightly different. I hate to say it but sure maybe older voters wont like her today, but everyone has a lifespan. Eventually boomers wont be the biggest voting block anymore.
Cant stop time.... Eventually Millenials will be in that spot, and I dont see them being half as hostile to her as Boomers would be. Although I do expect Republicans to spend these years smearing AOC all they can, just like they did hillary.
The funniest thing is that's actually weirdly complimentary of Trump to say she even has a little charisma.
The democrats will never allow anyone like her to get that far. You'll get another fucking Biden and will be expected to like it.
Lol bruh
Even my 60 yr old parents know about KPop. This lady is the ultimate lame