FDA says people need both doses of Covid shots
Anyone who receives the Moderna or Pfizer vaccine must get two full doses, two top US Food and Drug Administration officials said Monday.
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FDA Says People Need Both Doses of Coronavirus Vaccines
- Thread starter Loud Wrong
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Someone please tell the UK government that, especially the fact that we're not waiting three months for the second jab and not two-to-three weeks.
It really seems like the limitation right now isn't production of vaccines, but distribution. How about the Trump admin doesn't talk about screwing up dosing until they at least overcome the distribution and uptake issues?
The British Government
EDIT: ignore me, got mixed up with this:
COVID-19: 'Mixing coronavirus vaccines is not recommended,' health agency warns
Guidance to medics says the second jab can be from a different brand only if the same one is not available.
news.sky.com
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I'm honestly not expecting to get mine until sometime in Autumn unless the Biden admin (hopefully) rolls out a drastically overhauled distribution plan.
Jesus Christ, it's not a cocktail. How can you take cutting edge science and make it sound like the dark ages.
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The way it works is you get the vaccine and then instead of transmitting covid, you transmit the vaccine. Orgies are welcome now. Science!
Yep. I was really hoping to get on at some point this summer. But, I am not expecting one 'til closer to the end of the year at this point. Shit sucks.
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Some in the US were talking about doing this as well. I think this was meant to shut that down.
The scary/weird thing is that idea wasn't even a Trump thing, it was the UK government.
FDA says people need both doses of Covid shots
Anyone who receives the Moderna or Pfizer vaccine must get two full doses, two top US Food and Drug Administration officials said Monday.www.cnn.com
And that's that on that. Thank goodness.
Can you post a link to say that? The UK Government has only advocated delaying the second (booster) jab until later, and as far as I am aware not cutting the actual jab dose?
U.S. may cut some Moderna vaccine doses in half to speed rollout, official says
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-may-cut-moderna-vaccine-211604159.html
www.resetera.com
This is partly misleading, in that it isn't saying protection isn't added if you don't receive two doses, rather the bigger issue (and why two are needed) is that there's been no proper study on the efficacy of a single dose (or two doses with varied parameters) so its unknown how alternative vaccine plans would work.
The FDA (and other health bodies) have approved it on the basis of the testing with two doses three weeks apart, where its known how effective that vaccine course is.
It's ridiculous to deviate from that treatment course (as it's what we know and has been validated), but this is different from it not being effective which the title suggests (rather, it could be as effective, it could be totally ineffective; the problem is we've no idea so it shouldn't be tested with such massive stakes in a live environment).
EDIT: It's worth noting the article makes this pretty clear, but the quotes and title don't make it 'massively' clear that this is where the key issues lie.
The FDA (and other health bodies) have approved it on the basis of the testing with two doses three weeks apart, where its known how effective that vaccine course is.
It's ridiculous to deviate from that treatment course (as it's what we know and has been validated), but this is different from it not being effective which the title suggests (rather, it could be as effective, it could be totally ineffective; the problem is we've no idea so it shouldn't be tested with such massive stakes in a live environment).
EDIT: It's worth noting the article makes this pretty clear, but the quotes and title don't make it 'massively' clear that this is where the key issues lie.
No you're right, I was thinking about how they were delaying it for 12 weeks and also how it's ok to mix vaccines in some circumstances
"Later" is a very indeterminate thing in this situation, though. In the UK we clearly do not have the supply and / or capacity to deliver vaccination at the scale we need - hence this attempt to stretch capacity - so who's to say people will even be able to get a second dose before autumn, and the possible next wave of infection? That may prove to be as good as "never".
I'm normally fairly optimistic about these things, but right now there's a lot being left unsaid - and it's being left that way for a very clear purpose. Twelve weeks is just far enough out to be constantly adjusted until people forget it was ever promised in the first place.
No but I think antibodies can be passed through breast milk.
So, you know.
Thanks. I think the whole mix of vaccines was down to the NYT and their article - the BMJ have asked the NYT to correct their article - it seems that the UK PHE stance is not to mix any of the vaccines
Coronavirus: BMJ urges NYT to correct vaccine 'mixing' article
The medical journal's editor says UK guidelines don't recommend giving different coronavirus jabs.
www.bbc.co.uk
Time to put on a man diaper and head to the senior center?
