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FBI says arrested far-right leader received updates on lawmakers location during capitol siege

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neon/drifter

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Look...

If we've got the actual content of the messages, you can not convince me that they won't be able to identify who sent them. I'm sorry, it's 2021. If the NSA after all this time lacks the ability to figure that out then I'm convinced they're hiding something. :/
 
Tokyo_Funk

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But but but.... the violent left!
But but but.... antifa!
But but but.... chicken nuggets!

He who shouts loudest is often the most guilty of their own projections.
 
Earthboundstarman

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Anyone proven to have had a connection to this, capital police, members of congress, need to be shamed and jailed immediately.
 
MasterYoshi

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Would it be absolutely logical to assume that if a lawmaker and/or multiple lawmakers were in on this, that the President also knew?
 
neon/drifter

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and there were no antifa protestors to fight...

and he didn't do any sort of pre-strike anywhere...

and everything Q said didn't happen.

They're all a bunch of LARPers that fully believe in their fantasy and i'm just... sad.
 
Fat4all

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neon/drifter said:
Look...

If we've got the actual content of the messages, you can not convince me that they won't be able to identify who sent them. I'm sorry, it's 2021. If the NSA after all this time lacks the ability to figure that out then I'm convinced they're hiding something. :/
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even if they used fake accounts im sure they either already know or will know very soon
 
defaltoption

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Fuck man, the netflix movie on this years from now is gonna be something to behold. Fucking terrorist assholes. I can wait till they find the person and have he or she rot in cell next to all the other deplorables.
 
chefbags

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Fucking hell. This situation really could have been super fucking bad.

As someone said, unity ain't coming till these fucks are super fucking charged deep down under the jail.
 
jelly

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Christ, that's nightmare stuff.

Facebook needs to drop the hammer every day, all day. Letting shit like this pass for so long is disgraceful.
 
Mandos

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DanGo said:
I would assume it's the FBI not revealing it in this particular charging document, not that they're unknown.
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This, they're known or will be known within days. They are waiting for the full docket of info before they go arresting representatives and senators(plus Trump needed to be out of office).
Heads are going to roll soon, before the impeachment for sure. Just need to have a solid case before arrest
 
Fat4all

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neon/drifter said:
right?!
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at the same time, if they know then they'll likely build their case first before saying who it was

they not only have the connections at the capital building to consider, but also the various alt-right networks who had money streaming into their coffers a month before the attack, depending on where the evidence takes them this could be a massive case to build, so i doubt they would just come out and say who it was asap

they might dip in early if the person on the inside is considered a flight-risk, but otherwise this seems like it's gonna be one huge fucking case all around

i imagine they'll also wait for the attorney general to get approved to the cabinet, this will likely be their first big 'thing'
 
neon/drifter

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Fat4all said:
at the same time, if they know then they'll likely build their case first before saying who it was

they not only have the connections at the capital building to consider, but also the various alt-right networks who had money streaming into their coffers a month before the attack, depending on where the evidence takes them this could be a massive case to build, so i doubt they would just come out and say who it was asap

they might dip in early if the person on the inside is considered a flight-risk, but otherwise this seems like it's gonna be one huge fucking case all around

i imagine they'll also wait for the attorney general to get approved to the cabinet, this will likely be their first big 'thing'
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Such insanity. Ugh...
 
PeskyToaster

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At least these people were dumb enough to do it via Facebook who's entire existence is gathering data on its users.
 
Avitus

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If the FBI was listening in on their app conversations and can reliably get those messages/recordings, every one of them is fucked.
 
Danby

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chefbags said:
Fucking hell. This situation really could have been super fucking bad.

As someone said, unity ain't coming till these fucks are super fucking charged deep down under the jail.
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I personally feel that while not everyone that went inside wanted blood, had the opportunity arisen, they would not have interfered.

We were literally within minutes of a hostage situation that could have resulted in more deaths.

Yes. This was real bad.
 
Axon

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" All members are in the tunnels under capital seal them in. Turn on gas "

Holy Shit. Though this quote is particularly interesting in another way: If the guy advises them to turn on the gas to kill them (I assume he means it literally and not metaphorically), that would mean the guy is sending the messages is not among the members that are in the tunnels as that would mean his death too, correct? So how did the guy sending the messages know where they are? Something like a high ranking security manager perhaps?
 

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Root out the evil. Show it under the light. Show how far the republicans were going to go to retain power. Mitch needs to be sacked
 
Mandos

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Axon said:
" All members are in the tunnels under capital seal them in. Turn on gas "

Holy Shit. Though this quote is particularly interesting in another way: If the guy advises them to turn on the gas to kill them (I assume he means it literally and not metaphorically), that would mean the guy is sending the messages is not among the members that are in the tunnels as that would mean his death too, correct? So how did the guy sending the messages know where they are? Something like a high ranking security manager perhaps?
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Or a house member in the last wave of the evacuations like certain new Q nuts
 
Jedi2016

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I'm starting to get curious about this "training" they mention. It'll be hard to claim it wasn't planned if they were literally training for it.
 
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Avitus said:
If the FBI was listening in on their app conversations and can reliably get those messages/recordings, every one of them is fucked.
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Yeah some of these people, like the one who sent the messages in the OP, are probably going to get the kind of hard time you don't come back from.
 
Li Kao

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Yeah, not being 100% bilingual, my absolute priority is asking if 'turn on gas' is an idiom.
 

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Axon said:
" All members are in the tunnels under capital seal them in. Turn on gas "

Holy Shit. Though this quote is particularly interesting in another way: If the guy advises them to turn on the gas to kill them (I assume he means it literally and not metaphorically), that would mean the guy is sending the messages is not among the members that are in the tunnels as that would mean his death too, correct? So how did the guy sending the messages know where they are? Something like a high ranking security manager perhaps?
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It was likely Boebert. She was still on the house floor but knew most of the members had just been evacuated to the tunnels.
 

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"What about unity??" GOP members cry while everything seems to show that either their members, staff, voters or all of the above actively tried to help have their opposition killed or injured to steal control of the country......yeah fuck your unity you fucks, anyone who tries to claim that over any actions taken to trump or anyone else involved in this should be looked at very very closely for everything they've said or done because I wouldn't put it past any of those fucks.
 
Fat4all

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Li Kao said:
Yeah, not being 100% bilingual, my absolute priority is asking if 'turn on gas' is an idiom.
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it could mean a few things, but it's not a common saying, not like 'hit the gas' or 'hit the breaks'

it could be literal or just a threat eluding to the Gas Chamber or something even more gross like the Holocaust

I imagine the Feds might have even more records of their chats that haven't been disclosed fully yet that could fill in the details, like maybe they had an actual plan in the works to try and cut a gas line or something like that, but either way it's almost certainly a threat on the lives of the people in the tunnels
 
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Fat4all said:
it could mean a few things, but it's not a common saying, not like 'hit the gas' or 'hit the breaks'

it could be literal or just a threat eluding to the Gas Chamber or something even more gross like the Holocaust

I imagine the Feds might have even more records of their chats that haven't been disclosed fully yet that could fill in the details, like maybe they had an actual plan in the works to try and cut a gas line or something like that, but either way it's almost certainly a threat on the lives of the people in the tunnels
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With the words "seal them in" directly before it, I think the context is pretty obvious.
 
Tokyo_Funk

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neon/drifter said:
Look...

If we've got the actual content of the messages, you can not convince me that they won't be able to identify who sent them. I'm sorry, it's 2021. If the NSA after all this time lacks the ability to figure that out then I'm convinced they're hiding something. :/
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At one of my old jobs I had the tools to backtrace an I.P address and all the "hops" it made to a single connection, with that we could find the host/net provider, the phone number attached if it was a landline/mobile and then the name of the person who is tied to the account. It was fairly straightforward and honestly the NSA/FBI have significantly better tracing tools than I've ever used.
 
RiOrius

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This is going to go deep. Facebook needs to be on the hook as well
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Nah, don't blame Facebook for this. We want them to keep organizing there. Because Facebook tracks everything, mines every bit of data they can to try to identify people: it's exactly the sort of platform I want idiot radicals to be using to plot their criminal conspiracies on.

There are easy-to-use, legitimately secure methods of communication out there, and instead these numbskulls are chatting over Facebook Messenger.
 
Avitus

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Tokyo_Funk said:
At one of my old jobs I had the tools to backtrace an I.P address and all the "hops" it made to a single connection, with that we could find the host/net provider, the phone number attached if it was a landline/mobile and then the name of the person who is tied to the account. It was fairly straightforward and honestly the NSA/FBI have significantly better tracing tools than I've ever used.
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One hiccup would be asking Zello to produce the evidence but they've already got some/all the audio recordings, per the article, so these people are straight up done. They thought they were being clever by using a 'walkie talkie' app, as if it leaves no record.
 
Tokyo_Funk

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Li Kao said:
Yeah, not being 100% bilingual, my absolute priority is asking if 'turn on gas' is an idiom.
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"Turn on the gas" has many meanings
- Literally turning on gas
- Bringing up heat/making something hotter.
- Getting somewhere faster, like pushing the pedal of a car down
- Getting more aggressive
- This could have been hinting towards Nazism also.
 
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House members were outfitted with gas masks when the breach occurred.

Both chambers abruptly recessed as dozens of people breached security perimeters at the Capitol and lawmakers inside the House chamber were told to put on gas masks as tear gas was fired in the Rotunda.

www.newsday.com

Lawmakers given gas masks as protesters breach Capitol

WASHINGTON — Protesters backing President Donald Trump breached the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday in violent clashes with police that force a delay in the constitutional process to affirm Joe Biden’s vict
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Tokyo_Funk

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Avitus said:
One hiccup would be asking Zello to produce the evidence but they've already got some/all the audio recordings, per the article, so these people are straight up done. They thought they were being clever by using a 'walkie talkie' app, as if it leaves no record.
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I never heard of these walkie-talkie apps until this riot. They're basically audio connections with no recording right?
 
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