That is not what he's saying.Wait, Canada fucked this up just as bad as the US?
I didn't think that was possible.
That's the only way what Fauci is saying makes any sense lol
Like some parts of Europe, Our cases are much lower per capita but it's like saying one house fire is smaller than another, it's all the same. Without a vaccinated population and herd immunity we are in the same place.Wait, Canada fucked this up just as bad as the US?
I didn't think that was possible.
That's the only way what Fauci is saying makes any sense lol
Here you've got a epidemiologist and public health expert, someone who has spent decades working on infectious diseases and has been at the forefront of all things covid from the beginning, offering a timetable on vaccinations and a return to normalcy. And then a handful of people ITT, with neither that experience or qualifications, going "actually, it'll be another year or two after that." It reminds me of how many people here last spring/summer were absolutely adamant that we wouldn't even have a vaccine *made* for years, much less start administering one by the end of 2020 (something that Fauci was also publicly insistent on and that many here doubted).
Think I'll side with the actual doctor on this.
Here you've got a epidemiologist and public health expert, someone who has spent decades working on infectious diseases and has been at the forefront of all things covid from the beginning, offering a timetable on vaccinations and a return to normalcy. And then a handful of people ITT, with neither that experience or qualifications, going "actually, it'll be another year or two after that." It reminds me of how many people here last spring/summer were absolutely adamant that we wouldn't even have a vaccine *made* for years, much less start administering one by the end of 2020 (something that Fauci was also publicly insistent on and that many here doubted).
Think I'll side with the actual doctor on this.
Pretty much, but this has been the case for a while now. Where are we at in deaths, 300k+ now? A lot of people never gave a shit about it here and those that have taken this serious since March are experiencing some very real fatigue over it. Combine all of that with the vaccines being out there and more competent leadership via Biden Admin and I see this story moving more and more to the background as the weather warms up and people get back outside doing stuff.
Will there be massive conventions and concerts? Probably not. But outdoor sports, smaller food / music festivals, all those different events that canceled last year will be yearning to get back to business again and Americans will be happy to oblige. That's my opinion, at least.
I mean, you can't eat and drink with a mask on..It's normal here.
I ordered to go at a local BBQ place Saturday. In chicago area there is no indoor dining. And it's freezing out. Decided to support a local place even though it's pricey.
I walk in to pick it up there are 15 people at the bar (maskless, drinking) and almost every table was full of people (maskless eating)
I was shocked and appalled. Why can't these morons just follow the rules ugggggggggg
Restaurants aren't alllowed to be open for indooor dining was the take away. Not only were they open they were packed full arm to arm at the bar and every table full. If you're eating (maskless obviously) maybe don't be 12 inches from a stranger
Fall 2021 sounds about right and is what I predicted in an earlier thread. They're making a big push to reopen schools this year so it makes sense. No way this drags until 2023 like some here are saying.
If they do the bolded part this shit will go on for a lot longer in a never ending circle.
It seems like I could write "we're at the absolute peak of Corona currently" for the last 2 f'n months and while it gets worse and worse people plan to get back to normal again, like how f'n stupid can countries be?
People must be insane to think we're back at normal at late summer 2021 or fall. And I'm not even thinking about America here, I'm in Europe and this seems crazy, but America? Oh boy, you can put a year on top of everyone else.
Opening up the schools seems like a bad idea, but I guess Fauci is right despite me doubting him this time.My main concern is getting my kids back into school. I'm praying that's relatively safe in the fall, because goddamn these last 5 months homeschooling with my wife and juggling both our jobs with 3 kids has been a fucking nightmare of hellish proportions.
Don't you think Fauci is aware of this though? If you and I know about people not taking vaccines, not wearing masks, not giving a shit about the most basic guidelines -- shouldn't we assume he is aware of this too, and has already baked that into estimates? And more than that, has access to more information, more modeling, and just generally more expertise on vaccination administration and transmission and return-to-normalcy timetables? Like I said, Fauci was the one who, last summer, predicted the first vaccinations could begin December 2020 (which they did) at the same time that people here, with no background or expertise in any of this, were insisting vaccines were at least 1-2 years away. My point is, everything that we know Fauci also already knows, and more. I don't think an estimate of "some degree of normalcy by this fall and winter" is based on overly rosy predictions of how vaccines are either administered or accepted by people.Eh, I respect Faucci, but there's the whole factor of people refusing to take vaccines. You already have multiple instances of healthcare workers refusing to take the vaccine. I think that's why people are doubting the timeline and think it will take longer. But I'm hoping that's not the case and everything happens smoothly and without hiccups. Personally I don't expect things to be normal until winter 2021 or 2022. My main reasoning is as soon civilian vaccinations take off in spring, people will start acting dumb even after their first dose, or just thinking everything's safe since others are being vaccinated. We have barely vaccinated anyone and folk are already ignoring rules and we in the thousands of daily cases. No one gives a shit anymore.
Schools have been open here in Florida for a while, but I haven't felt comfortable putting my son back in the classroom, even though they say they wear masks and social distance, etc. I don't trust elementary school kids lol.Opening up the schools seems like a bad idea, but I guess Fauci is right despite me doubting him this time.