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Fargo Season 4 OT - Sundays on FX
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I predict
Satchel will come back, but this time as Mike Milligan and kill Loy for abandoning him with the trade off. It would fit the theme of the gangster's arc. That or Zelmare will be the one to take Loy out.
I figure either he was put off by Odis' surrender, executing someone who's not putting up a fight or... He saw in him something he'd seen during the war. Something his brother wouldn't understand. How his brother doesn't really get what he went through after he was sent away.
I also feel like their mother's has him clinging onto his last living immediate family(aside from Zero). I feel like this whole thing has taken a toll on him.
Just caught up now. Man that Gaetano death was the most Fargo thing this season!
I was stunned for a second and then started laughing and going "WTF" very much like his brother.
Cool episode, the B&W one before that was also great and beautiful.
I hope this sticks the landing
I was stunned for a second and then started laughing and going "WTF" very much like his brother.
Cool episode, the B&W one before that was also great and beautiful.
I hope this sticks the landing
"Can you shoot him first, so I can watch?"
Mayflower gets one last bit of satisfaction, before biting the bullet
Mayflower gets one last bit of satisfaction, before biting the bullet
He got traded back to this family and had one last moment with Loy, but that was it.
Anyway, I enjoyed the episode. I felt that this season might have been a bit too bloated with characters, as most of them dropped like flies in the back half, but I thought it was pretty solid season overall. I hope we'll get another season eventually, but it wouldn't be so bad if they closed it off here.
Yeah, this episode was mostly closing the chapter on the fates of Loy and Josto. At least Loy got some relief in his final moments, before meeting his ultimate fate.
Groaned out loud at the Godfather reference near the end, was a decent finale though. Enjoyed the mid-credits scene.
Definitely the weakest of the 4 seasons but still a really solid volume. Nice that they tried something different.
Definitely the weakest of the 4 seasons but still a really solid volume. Nice that they tried something different.
Good season of TV in a vacuum but the weakest of the 4 Fargo seasons IMO. Was nice to see an origin story for my favorite character from my favorite season, but the journey to get there was a bit overwrought. Really makes me want to watch season 2 again so i'm gonna try and find some time for that
I said after a couple of episodes that I don't think Rock was suitable for that role and that final episode cemented my opinion. I wanted to do nothing but laugh during his final scene.
Overall, I felt this season was too ambitious. I never really got Gaetano's character. His backstory didn't really help endear him to me. If Oreatta would have been Josto's primary agent of chaos, the season would have been better for it. Man, I wanted to like Rock in this role, but something was a bit off. I know he was trying to be the gangster with some morals, but at every turn, he kept getting sidelined. I knew with the setting, Loy was not going to win this war. I think it would have been best instead of Chris Rock, the showrunners would have cast someone new, like they did with Allison Tolman from season 1.
I liked both Rock and Schwartzman in this season because they both showed different ways to be a boss and leader than being a larger-than-life, intimidating presence dripping with machismo like a Brando or Pacino. Their characters both ultimately failed in very Fargo ways, but I think their performances both succeeded. They were very esoteric and unlike most organized crime heads previously depicted but both commanded respect in their own way
As a whole, that was an incredibly weak season compared to what came before it, even if it's still better than most shows out there. That finale cemented how Chris Rock was incredibly miscast as Loy. I get that Fargo's whole point is casting people against type. It's worked out amazingly before, and worked out really well this season with both Schwarzman (who actually elevates Josto by being kinda perfect for that kind of role) and Buckley. Rock really spends the whole show feeling like he's constantly struggling to not break character and default to his usual schtick.
Also, as much as I liked the one twist, I didn't care much for how it was handled. It really feels like they didn't trust the audience to connect the dots, despite it being the single most obvious twist since Jon Snow.
I really hope Fargo gets at least one more season, because it'd be a bummer if this was the final word on the series.
Also, as much as I liked the one twist, I didn't care much for how it was handled. It really feels like they didn't trust the audience to connect the dots, despite it being the single most obvious twist since Jon Snow.
Was nice seeing Bokeem again, though
I really hope Fargo gets at least one more season, because it'd be a bummer if this was the final word on the series.
It's much weaker than all three previous seasons, but still has a lot of good to it.
It's a bit uneven, but I enjoyed it a lot. I was more invested in this one compared to Season 3. S3 felt like it veered too much into fan service.
My ranking: S2 >> S1 >> S4 >> S3
Chris Rock is a horrible dramatic actor and this season was too long by half. Wario was the only character I truly enjoyed, and he was done in by a pratfall. Go open a vineyard or something, Noah Hawley. You need a break.
Same ranking for me. Rock was miscast but I still enjoyed it.
Agreed. As flawed as this season was it was still significantly better than season 3.
Rock was great. Hawley cast him to do Chris Rock things and I'm confused why people think he was miscast.
I probably have to watch them all again at some point to be sure, but this is my ranking as of now as well.
I'd give it a solid 3/5, but I don't see them continuing with the series. At least it kind of washed the terrible taste of season three out of my mouth.
While we're at season 3, from where I view it, it seems the reason why it ranks low for some is because I think Hawley and co made it too cerebral. Plus even with the star power of Ewan mcGregor, most of the other character's didn't click for some people.
I liked season 3 more than this season (mostly for the part where Swango and Wrench are the main characters), but this season to me actually has the best cast by far, it just does not get utilized well whatsoever. It felt like to me the whole Zelmare/Swanee/Deafy part should've been cut from the plot and to just focus on the remaining characters more heavily
I actually generally like this season, but the thinness of the characters really makes it the weakest season for me
I also actually felt like Chris Rock filled into the role pretty well as it went on though, he didn't have the regular "magnetism" of a character like that, but I felt like he was actually a pretty solid character by the end of the season and seeing the reunion in the last episode with him was actually quite joyous and beautiful
I actually generally like this season, but the thinness of the characters really makes it the weakest season for me
I also actually felt like Chris Rock filled into the role pretty well as it went on though, he didn't have the regular "magnetism" of a character like that, but I felt like he was actually a pretty solid character by the end of the season and seeing the reunion in the last episode with him was actually quite joyous and beautiful
Apparently there were new scenes shot with Bokeem. The ending was going to depict him in the 90s.
www.hollywoodreporter.com
‘Fargo’ Season 4 Finale: How That Final Twist Came to Life
The Hollywood Reporter speaks with Noah Hawley about the final scene of the FX crime anthology's latest installment, how it impacts the series' future and more.
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Perfect ranking, matches mine as well.
Season 2 was near perfect. Great story, great cast and oozing with style. It really was Fargo firing on all cylinders. Hanzee was a terrifying villain.
Season 1 had Martin Freeman and Billy Bob Thornton. It'd be my number one if S2 weren't as strong. Lorne Malvo was the most pathological, manipulative villain I've seen. Fantastic casting.
Season 4 had an excellent cast of characters but an overwhelming story. There were far too many concurrent storylines happening at once to the point I never really was able to get invested into a character.
Season 3 was good but felt almost experimental. It was nice to see Wrench again, and Varga was a pretty interesting villain, but otherwise it was a bit out there.
Pretty standard and non-exciting finale. During this season I thought it's better than 3 but now I don't know.
S3 had a slow start but I think its highs were better than S4 which imo had less highs but overall was more... "polished"?.
Chris Rock's final scene was fucking awful, completely prevented any dramatic impact it supposed to had. Satchel's reaction was also super weird, felt like he was seconds away from spouting "...alright" and going back in the house.
I'm completely fine with Fargo ending here, don't see future seasons reach the first two's greatness.
S3 had a slow start but I think its highs were better than S4 which imo had less highs but overall was more... "polished"?.
Chris Rock's final scene was fucking awful, completely prevented any dramatic impact it supposed to had. Satchel's reaction was also super weird, felt like he was seconds away from spouting "...alright" and going back in the house.
I'm completely fine with Fargo ending here, don't see future seasons reach the first two's greatness.
I guess I'm in the minority because this was a close second to being (if not actually being) my favorite season so far. I've seen a lot of contrasting opinions all over online so it seems divisive that's for sure lol.