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FandomWire: Why Avatar: The Last Airbender’s Creators Really Left Netflix
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This sounds completely made up. None of these (other than lack of budget) sound like something that Netflix would push. They actively push minority driven programming so white-washing characters sounds fairly unlikely, at least not to the point where it would be a showrunners-exit-the-show level of a problem. Sex isn't something that they go overboard with even in their more adult focused programming. I mean, they have a show called Sex Education that is about as tame as shows get. Even violence isn't really something that is all that overdone in a lot of Netflix shows (to the point where I sometimes hope they'd do more with it, imagine a bit more gory a Chilling Adventures of Sabrina instead of the CW teen drama we got).
They would be upping the age of all the characters. They're not putting sex scenes in if the characters are 14.
Except Netflix has done shows like Dark Crystal: The Age of Resistance that is kind of dark fantasy with zero blood & sex, and Netflix overall isn't all that gungho with graphic depictions of sex & violence. Much tamer than HBO in that regard. This article is obviously not based in reality, no need to lose it based on nothing but made up hearsay. I'm sure LOTR will take its ques from Jackson's Middle Earth work far more than anything else (except perhaps with a bit less of Jackson's twisted, dark sense of humor), certainly not Game of Thrones.
I'd be surprised if they don't age up the characters, why cast some 12 year old when they're gonna hit a growth spurt during the show and now you have to pretend the guy is still 12 when they're clearly not.
I can see some of this being true but I would need additional sources. Budget is almost always an issue/point of conflict, so I doubt that was a big deal. Diversity I can somewhat see but I have trouble believing Netflix would push hard for having white actors involved. I definitely can see tone being an issue but my understanding is that Netflix themselves are pretty hands-off. What might be more believable is that the director/executive producers wanted a change of tone to contrast against the series.
Really though, these are such generic issues that I wouldn't be surprised if the article writer made all of this up but it turned out to be true anyway.
Really though, these are such generic issues that I wouldn't be surprised if the article writer made all of this up but it turned out to be true anyway.
Why invest in a live action series and not on an animated one like the ones aired on Nick? It's a no brainer and tons of new subs would from that.
Assuming this is true...* I would bet Netflix wanted something more in line with Stranger Things in tone. That'd be a far cry from Game of Thrones or whatever, but still way more overtly adult than the cartoon.
*Which, maybe. It's plausible but that also means it's the obvious speculation most of us would buy.
*Which, maybe. It's plausible but that also means it's the obvious speculation most of us would buy.
The hot garbage pile of Korra convinced me the success of The Last Airbender was mostly due to the collaborative effort and creativity of the team, not Brian and Michael. The further they are from anything the better, I say.
The studio is making the right move by changing it up. A live action remake will always be mediocre.
The studio is making the right move by changing it up. A live action remake will always be mediocre.
Season 3 is almost on par with Avatar and would be as good as that if it wasn't only 12 episodes. they were doing everything right with that one. agree otherwise though.
My guess on which is true.
Budget 100%. They, Netflix, need to keep it, the price tag for making the show, down and with all the locations, CGI and effects needed it would be too much probably For even them. Witcher was apparently even pushing it.
Diversity of cast. while they have been pretty good with that, they also tend to be jerks about things as well, especially if they are chasing a certain type of demographic, namely the shipping Community. Free word of mouth, etc. And if I was a betting woman my bet would be on them having a particular person they wanted cast in a part. They did the same with Cursed, even though Nimue is black, the actress they went with is white and with Name Recognition. So I can buy them wanting to have a well known actor for maybe Zuko, Katara, Aang, Sokka and Toph and one of them being white.
Tone. I'm 50/50 on this one. On the one hand I'm sure they want this to be for young adults and fans of the original that are older now so wanting an older, darker sexier, version of the story. However I don't think that they will want to go full Witcher with the heavy blood and gore. My guess is that they wanna chase the trend of older teens in adult like situations and probably want a Zutara/Kataang shipping situation as love triangles have been a big thing with the YA writing community where you have the darker bad boy villain and the main girl hooking up or implying it over the main character. By having them older it allows for that.
Budget 100%. They, Netflix, need to keep it, the price tag for making the show, down and with all the locations, CGI and effects needed it would be too much probably For even them. Witcher was apparently even pushing it.
Diversity of cast. while they have been pretty good with that, they also tend to be jerks about things as well, especially if they are chasing a certain type of demographic, namely the shipping Community. Free word of mouth, etc. And if I was a betting woman my bet would be on them having a particular person they wanted cast in a part. They did the same with Cursed, even though Nimue is black, the actress they went with is white and with Name Recognition. So I can buy them wanting to have a well known actor for maybe Zuko, Katara, Aang, Sokka and Toph and one of them being white.
Tone. I'm 50/50 on this one. On the one hand I'm sure they want this to be for young adults and fans of the original that are older now so wanting an older, darker sexier, version of the story. However I don't think that they will want to go full Witcher with the heavy blood and gore. My guess is that they wanna chase the trend of older teens in adult like situations and probably want a Zutara/Kataang shipping situation as love triangles have been a big thing with the YA writing community where you have the darker bad boy villain and the main girl hooking up or implying it over the main character. By having them older it allows for that.
I see much potential for blood bending.
I, a wayward youth, was seduced by the influence of sex and rock 'n' roll in Harry Potter and Star Wars. Don't be like me, fellow kids! Stay on the straight and narrow.
I mean to be fair...
You can't tell me Sokka and Suki didn't end up getting busy in the Southern Raiders episode.
So what, Netflix wanted to include some gratuitous sexposition scene where Admiral Zhao is getting fellated while discussing war plans or something equally crass and cheap?
You age up the cast too much, you lose what makes Avatar work. The characters' childlike innocence, naivety and banter are integral and stand in contrast to the adult world they inhibit. It's why goofiness works in Avatar but feels out of place in Korra.
Avatar deserves nothing less than a cast of children with the acting calibre of the Stranger Things actors.
Top tier child actors these days are seemingly better than ever and that show demonstrates that you can have a show led by children, talking like children, with huge mass appeal. The difficult part, naturally, is finding actors of that calibre.
Avatar deserves nothing less than a cast of children with the acting calibre of the Stranger Things actors.
Top tier child actors these days are seemingly better than ever and that show demonstrates that you can have a show led by children, talking like children, with huge mass appeal. The difficult part, naturally, is finding actors of that calibre.
I'm not sure I trust this website. The Netflix statement is true though, because Variety posted it first.
True. Aging up the cast might make a 3 season project easier to film with no shocking growth spurts between seasons. Netflix is sort of running into this problem with Stranger Things.
However, budget was ALWAYS going to be a concern. The CG for bending wasn't going to be cheap. I believe I posted my worries about the budget right when the project was announced back in 2018. I feel it needs to be really high budget to do the animated series justice.
True. Aging up the cast might make a 3 season project easier to film with no shocking growth spurts between seasons. Netflix is sort of running into this problem with Stranger Things.
However, budget was ALWAYS going to be a concern. The CG for bending wasn't going to be cheap. I believe I posted my worries about the budget right when the project was announced back in 2018. I feel it needs to be really high budget to do the animated series justice.
Agreed on both of these.
I'm not sure live action Avatar works; the show is damn near perfect, why remake it? How about an animated sequel to Korra (which after giving it a rewatch, it's better than I remember especially book 3, if still very uneven) or adapt the Kyoshi comics.
I'm actually ok with a cast that's aged up a few years. It would make casting and performances way easier/believable for a live-action sho-
Like I said, if I see a single white person, I know its Netflix/Nickelodeon fuckery, and I'm bailing hard.
...Yea I'm out.
Like I said, if I see a single white person, I know its Netflix/Nickelodeon fuckery, and I'm bailing hard.
Of course you need to age them up, you can't do a project this size reliably with almost only child actors.
Absolutely not wanting any whte actors is just a hypocritical reason considering Korra was even whiter than Avatar, and it was released post-The Last Airbender meaning they already knew about the whitewashing problematic at that moment.
Absolutely not wanting any whte actors is just a hypocritical reason considering Korra was even whiter than Avatar, and it was released post-The Last Airbender meaning they already knew about the whitewashing problematic at that moment.
Honestly, I'm not surprised by this whole "guys who have only done animation having live-action budget issues" aspect.
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