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Families of Las Vegas shooting reach settlement deal with MGM Resorts Intl for 800 million
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The shooter used a room in their hotel to shoot everyone.
He was able to sneak in a gun, lapses in security etc
let a psychopath with an arsenal to stay on one of their rooms, also the alarm for when a window is broken didnt go off
Well I'm glad that *checks notes* a hotel and casino resort is being held responsible for a mass shooting.
Didn't dude have duffle bags full of guns and ammo and booby trap his room/floor?
Specifically, Mandalay Bay and the event space across the road where the concert was held.
(If people read "MGM" and assume "MGM Grand," the same company owns these properties, and a bunch of others on the strip.)
Iirc he only ever used one gun but had several others inside. Didn't hear about a booby trap though
Yeah, I'm not sure what they're supposed to do to prevent someone with ill intentions like that in America. Do you want checking into a hotel to be like going through airport security?
He didn't booby trap, he rigged the door to not open.
Wiki "After Campos entered the floor, he discovered an L-shaped bracket screwed into the door and door frame, which was responsible for barring the door from opening."
They don't. I'm assuming there were other grounds for the lawsuit (such as the alarm on the windows). Because if we are going to sue based on the fact that someone smuggled guns inside duffle bags into a hotel. Then we are looking at bag checks? Screenings?
They don't.
It's probably people confusing hotels with airports who have never been to either.
- 58 deaths
- 851 injuries (shooting plus ensuing panic)
- $800 million fined from casino/resort
- Bump stocks banned
- Average stock performance of the four major publicly-traded gun/ammo manufacturers/sellers (AOBC, RGR, VSTO, and OLN) since this shooting: -53%
This whole thing was obviously an incredible tragedy. The loss of human life is irreplaceable, and that goes without saying. Seeing that $800M number, however, made me pause and think about the additional ripple effects, particularly regarding economics, that this event had on the USA.Can't say I'm sad to see those gun stocks dropping by 50% while the markets overall have been been up about 20% in that same time frame.
Probably have. Just scrub it clean and don't mention anything to the guests.
That entire floor has been changed. The room is not available to be rented any longer.
That's dumb. You can sue the tobacco companies but not the guncompanies? So stupid
Based on what they said two years ago, no, it wouldn't be rented out.
EDIT - I see someone found a more recent article already.
ask bernie sanders
there were a number of issues with their security response but hotels don't and shouldn't be spying on their guests. Anyone can "sneak" anything in
(I am aware that they now check rooms periodically in response to this incident but it is bs)
That's a congressional act that imposed immunity for gun companies
Does this apply to the NRA? I assume you cant sue politicians for their legislation.
Sure let's just turn every building into a prison before ever touching the people who make and sell the guns.
If corporations are going to be liable for gun violence, perhaps they'll start lobbying for more gun control.
I fail to see how that makes sense, the shooter was going to rapid fired out of that window with or without an alarm going of.
Hold whoever sold him weapons accountable, if it's not the makers of the firearms it's the 'Walmart' hes got them from.
At least the people involved got some compensation.
Hold whoever sold him weapons accountable, if it's not the makers of the firearms it's the 'Walmart' hes got them from.
At least the people involved got some compensation.
No, the NRA got a law passed in 2005 that barred claims against gun manufacturers when their guns are used to commit crimes. If that law was repealed, gun manufacturers would be sued for these tragedies.
For those who are sympathetic to MGM, remember this is the company that sued victims last year in an attempt to dodge being sued by the victims for any compensation.
Not to mention, their insurance is the one actually paying the bulk of the settlement at 751 million dollars. Don't be sympathetic to them. This does not affect their bottom line, and they've been extremely cruel in their efforts to deny any responsibility for the shooting, even though a security alarm failure when the shooter broke the window allowed him far more time to carry out the shooting.
Not to mention, their insurance is the one actually paying the bulk of the settlement at 751 million dollars. Don't be sympathetic to them. This does not affect their bottom line, and they've been extremely cruel in their efforts to deny any responsibility for the shooting, even though a security alarm failure when the shooter broke the window allowed him far more time to carry out the shooting.
He didn't sneak in a gun. The hotel knew he had taken weapons up to his room. He had checked in with weapons to take to conventions and gun shows before.
That's where I'm at, were they supposed to be aware he checked in with guns?
This is so weird.
I'm glad the families got compensation, but I'm not sure that was the source to get it from.
But hey, it ain't hurting them any I guess.
He was able to sneak in cases full of guns over multiple trips over a long period of time.
He took multiple trips to get cases full of guns and ammo.
Maybe this gives the victims grounds to sue?
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