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PhoncipleBone

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Oct 25, 2017
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VENOM DOMESTIC OW: $62.0M
FANTASTIC BEASTS 2 DOMESTIC OW: $77.0M
AQUAMAN DOMESTIC OW: $55.3M

Rationale:
Venom - we doin' Amazing Spider-Man numbers, fam
FB2 - Harry Potter historical sequel bump
Aquaman - Jumanji's Christmas 2017 performance. LOL.
Amazing Spider Man opened on a Tuesday. If you took just its first three days (Tues-Thurs), it made $75m. If it opened on a Friday the weekend total probably would have been much higher.
 

CloseTalker

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Oct 25, 2017
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why is Into the Spider-Verse not even in the equation?

It is not really considered one of the major blockbusters this fall in terms of box-office expectations.

I just assumed it was cuz the thread said fall, and it comes out in Winter. But I guess Aquaman rejects that rule. Potentially Spider-Man, and probably Mary Poppins will make more than some of these. Anyone thinking Venom will outgross Mary Poppins is crazy. Beloved franchise, Lin Manuel Miranda, and a movie catering to the usually neglected female market? It's going to clean up
 

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I just assumed it was cuz the thread said fall, and it comes out in Winter. But I guess Aquaman rejects that rule. Potentially Spider-Man, and probably Mary Poppins will make more than some of these. Anyone thinking Venom will outgross Mary Poppins is crazy. Beloved franchise, Lin Manuel Miranda, and a movie catering to the usually neglected female market? It's going to clean up
Venoms trailer has 68 million views. That is one of the highest of any film this year. Its second trailer is over 30 mil, also one of the highest for trailer 2s this year.
 

The Adder

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Oct 25, 2017
18,316
VENOM DOMESTIC OW: $70.0M
FANTASTIC BEASTS 2 DOMESTIC OW: $60.0M
AQUAMAN DOMESTIC OW: $85.0M

RT
VENOM: 48%
FANTASTIC BEASTS 2: 50%
AQUAMAN: 73%

Performance:
VENOM: A combination of decent word of mouth and little competition leads to respectable weekly drops
FANTASTIC BEASTS 2: Tanks week 2
AQUAMAN: Strong word of mouth keeps it afloat against heavy competition. Doesn't perform as well as Wonder Woman, but is not a bomb by any means.
 

Korigama

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Oct 25, 2017
20,614
VENOM DOMESTIC OW: $80.0M
FANTASTIC BEASTS 2 DOMESTIC OW: $70.0M
AQUAMAN DOMESTIC OW: $60.0M
 

Deleted member 5666

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Yes, the trailer views have been pointed out lol
I mean without question Venom is the most anticipated movie of the fall/winter as of right now. It generates the most buzz online by far in social media as well. Its not crazy to say Mary Poppins will gross less, because every indication we have currently is Venom will he the biggest movie of the fall.
 

CloseTalker

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Oct 25, 2017
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I mean without question Venom is the most anticipated movie of the fall/winter as of right now. It generates the most buzz online by far in social media as well. Its not crazy to say Mary Poppins will gross less, because every indication we have currently is Venom will he the biggest movie of the fall.
I mean, if the metric you're going by is online views, then yeah.

a) There is no full trailer for Mary Poppins yet
b) When there is one, it will likely show less engagement because a large section of it's target market are people who may not flock to YouTube and Twitter

As I've pointed out before, I could be dead wrong about Venom. I think I was off base in my guess for it's initial opening weekend, but I think the movie looks truly on Fantastic 4/Green Lantern levels of terrible, and the word of mouth will be brutal. It may end up with the highest opening weekend (it has the benefit of very little competition in its release window, as opposed to Aquaman and Mary Poppins), but I don't think it will end up being the overall highest grossing film of the fall.

Could be wrong, but that's my guess!
 

Zombine

Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,231
VENOM DOMESTIC OW: $80 mil
FANTASTIC BEASTS 2 DOMESTIC OW: $55 mil
AQUAMAN DOMESTIC OW: $60 mil

Fantastic Beasts IMO is the one that is anyone's guess. I'm leaning toward it being a good film but a franchise low. Aquaman is looking like it will get a little bit of a Christmas push but ultimately fall short.
 
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hodayathink

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Oct 25, 2017
3,064
VENOM DOMESTIC OW: $113.8M
FANTASTIC BEASTS 2 DOMESTIC OW: $68.0M
AQUAMAN DOMESTIC OW: $89.6M

why is Into the Spider-Verse not even in the equation?

There was a time where I was gonna make this entirely Sony/spider based, and do Spider-Verse and The Girl in the Spider's Web in addition to Venom, but decided that was gonna be too difficult.
 

kswiston

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Oct 24, 2017
3,693
VENOM DOMESTIC OW: $126.0M
FANTASTIC BEASTS 2 DOMESTIC OW: $68.0M
AQUAMAN DOMESTIC OW: $85.0M

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CloseTalker

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Box Office Mojo
Forecasting this weekend has been interesting as Sony came out in mid-September with a tracking note for Venom, pointing to a debut around $55-60 million, which would suggest a new October opening weekend record. Since then things haven't changed too much, though mostly negative reviews for the film have resulted in a disappointing Metacritic score of 34 and a 31% on RottenTomatoes. While audiences pre-determined to see the film regardless of reviews will still show up, negative word of mouth following opening day and poor reviews could hurt the film's three-day longevity.

Looking at IMDb page view performance for the $100 million production shows relatively positive momentum, with it slightly outperforming the likes of Ant-Man over the two weeks leading up to release. It's also outpacing films such as Gravity ($55.8m opening) and The Martian ($54.3m opening), while barely outpacing star Tom Hardy's summer 2015 hit Mad Max: Fury Road ($45.4m opening). That being said, the one big difference between those films and Venom is all of them were positively reviewed.

Taking all factors into account, while Sony has pushed the film's debut to a whopping 4,250 theaters, we see this one finishing around $60 million for the weekend. While there is some data that suggests a performance closer to $50 million or as high as $70+ million, the current evidence is mostly pointing toward a debut settling in the middle of that range.

BUT HAVEN'T THEY SEEN THE TRAILER VIEWS???
 

CloseTalker

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Oct 25, 2017
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So Venom ended up with around an $80 million opening weekend. Definitely much higher than I predicted, and a far cry from the 100+ mil some thought as well. Still, Sony must be ecstatic at this, I'll be curious to see how the second and third week drops are.
 
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hodayathink

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Oct 25, 2017
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So Venom ended up with around an $80 million opening weekend. Definitely much higher than I predicted, and a far cry from the 100+ mil some thought as well. Still, Sony must be ecstatic at this, I'll be curious to see how the second and third week drops are.

$80M with a BvS/SS level RT isn't that bad. Probably would have cleared $100M if it was decently received.

Also, Sony's likely to make their money back on this just with the box office gross. So for right now at least, the Sony Universe of Marvel Characters is alive and well.

Edit: Also, the final number was $80,255,756. And there are 4 people who guessed 80 on the dot tied for first right now.
 
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KillstealWolf

One Winged Slayer
Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
16,258
VENOM DOMESTIC OW: $77.8M
FANTASTIC BEASTS 2 DOMESTIC OW: $62.6M
AQUAMAN DOMESTIC OW: $72.7M

Aquaman estimated numbers are at $67 Million at the moment.

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4469&p=.htm

We have to wait for Actuals tomorrow before declaring it, but for being only around $2.5M off venom ($80.2M opening), basically being spot on with Fantastic Beasts ($62.1M opening) and being about $5M off the current estimated Aquaman number, I believe you are the winner for this Prediction Contest.

Other close contenders (20 points or less are):

Icemonk191 10+8+1 = 19
adrem007 5+1+5 = 11
Creatchee 1+0+11 = 12
NightOnyx 0+13+2 = 15
Sgt. Demblent: 2+9+3 = 14
AndyVirus 1+7+5 = 13
Nairume 2+10+2 = 14
jett 5+10+2 = 17
Korigama 0+8+7 = 15
StanleyStutters 2+0+5 = 7

Sorry for the rough maths, but unless Aquamans actuals change drastically, it'll be between these users for the overall winner.
 
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Icemonk191

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Oct 25, 2017
3,814
VENOM DOMESTIC OW: $90.0M
FANTASTIC BEASTS 2 DOMESTIC OW: $70.5M
AQUAMAN DOMESTIC OW: $68.0M

It's fun to look back and see how I did.

I wound up overestimating Venom because I thought it would be a big hit (which it was, just didn't open as high as I thought).
I thought Fantastic Beasts 2 was going to do bad (which it did) but I still wound up overestimating it.

Ironically the one I almost got perfectly right (Aquaman) was because I thought it was going to bomb and instead it's going to be a big hit. (It also surprised me by being a good movie too)

I guess my strategy going forward for predicting is to assume that every movie is gonna bomb.
 

Sgt. Demblant

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Oct 25, 2017
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Other close contenders (20 points or less are):

Sgt. Demblant: 2+9+3 = 14
Oh hey, for once I didn't do too badly!

Let's have a look:
VENOM DOMESTIC OW: $82.0M
FANTASTIC BEASTS 2 DOMESTIC OW: $71.0M
AQUAMAN DOMESTIC OW: $64.0M

Worldwide totals:
VENOM: $350.0M
FANTASTIC BEASTS 2: $795.0M
AQUAMAN: $325.0M

Tough to say for RT. Venom will be rotten for sure, FB2 I have no idea, probably fresh but with a middling review average. Aquaman I'm gonna say mid 50s to low 60s.

I do hope Aquaman will prove me wrong though. I want it to be great and do well. But that date kinda sucks.
I wasn't too far off with the opening weekend numbers.
But lol at the worldwide totals prediction. My apologies to Avi Arad.
I don't know why I low-balled Aquaman that much in here, since I've said in other threads that I thought 500 mil was the floor. I guess I was trying to play it safe, haha.
 

KillstealWolf

One Winged Slayer
Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
16,258
VENOM DOMESTIC OW: $96.0M
FANTASTIC BEASTS 2 DOMESTIC OW: $55.0M
AQUAMAN DOMESTIC OW: $43.0M

Well, 16M over on Venom, 7M Under on Fantastic Beasts and 25M for a VERY under on Aquaman. I'll at least take getting Fantastic Beasts mostly right with that film underperforming. And considering the response to Beasts, the third one might be even lower unless they really shake things up on that series.

Also...

In the end, the big winner is probably going to be Wreck it Ralph 2 or Grinch this fall. One of those animated movies will break out and make all the money, at present, I'm hoping it's Ralph 2.

...Grinch is sitting at $253 Million at the moment, so it's the big Fall Winner (US at least) at present. People really should stop rewarding Illumination with their money. The only impressive thing about them is there consistant mediocrity between films.
 
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hodayathink

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Oct 25, 2017
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Sorry, didn't forget, just had to work today.

The earlier poster is right, StanleyStutters is the winner with only being about 8.2M off overall. PM me with what type of gift card you want.

I'll put the entire list in a spoiler so everyone can see how they did:

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Name                Venom OW    FB2 OW    Aquaman OW    Total Score
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StanleyStutters        77.8        62.6    72.7        8.192652
Creatchee            81            62        78            11.507348
adrem007            74.7        63.2    61.5        12.492652
AndyVirus            81.3        68.9    72.5        12.88114
Nairume                82            72.5    69            13.68114
Sgt. Demblant        82            71        64            13.98114
Zombine                80            55        60            14.81886
Korigama            80            70        60            15.492652
NightOnyx            80            75        65            15.492652
jett                85            72        69            16.18114
Icemonk191            90            70.5    68            18.68114
super anime man 64    78            73        75            20.692652
SpecX                68            55        63            23.81886
DarkLordMalik        88            77        66            23.98114
kurahador            85            76        60            25.98114
PhazonBlonde        76.4        69.3    52.1        26.292652
Walter White Walker    70            75        64            26.492652
Tambini                80            82        74            26.692652
Cantaim                75.3        81.4    70.2        26.992652
Playco Armboy        75            85        68            28.692652
Sephzilla            81            85        62            28.98114
jon bones            98.2        65.3    76.1        29.78114
The Adder            70            60        85            30.01886
ContractHolder        85            85        70            30.18114
Androidsleeps        79            75        49            32.492652
Pluto                88            80        60            32.98114
Anthony Mooch        59            72        63            35.492652
charloselsenor        83            78        85            36.18114
Cheebo                113            61        65            36.307348
Masozi                71            67.5    90            37.192652
Mr. Snuffleupagus    47            63        63            38.492652
Grunge_Hamster        52            72        68            38.692652
Run_64bit            54            69        61            39.492652
Dr Doom                67            86        70            39.692652
Shugga                65            80        60            40.492652
HeartlessNobody2134    60            80        70            40.692652
mjc                    58            81.25    68            41.942652
Hokahey                52.3        73.6    64.6        42.192652
CloseTalker            45            68        65            43.492652
Dobby                62            77        55.3        45.192652
SoundCheck            50            70.5    75.5        46.692652
dosh                45.3        72.5    65.4        47.292652
KillstealWolf        96            55        43            47.307348
AAK                    49            80        67            49.492652
Sega Dreamcast        60            70        89            49.692652
clay_ghost            92            80        47            49.98114
Chaos Legion        105            75        80            50.18114
Rvaan                110.5        65        85            50.68114
Ocean Bones            105.5        70.5    85.5        51.68114
overcast            66.7        89.2    55.3        52.692652
shira                55            92        67            55.492652
BiggestGeekEver        121.7        58.9    83.9        61.207348
hodayathink            113.8        68        89.6        61.58114
AnotherDayAnotherDollar    118        82.3    71.7        62.18114
hateradio            53            78        45            65.492652
Gonzalez            81            111        51            65.98114
shaneo632            52            89        56            66.492652
PhoncipleBone        124.3        68.9    84.6        67.98114
kswiston            126            68        85            69.18114
Medalion            90            110        55            69.98114
SharkJohnson        42.5        80        53            69.992652
SSJDio                112            101        69            72.18114
Kenzodielocke        63            72        116.844114    76.536766
Laserdisk            40            54.5    35.5        79.81886
Gundam                70            94        107            81.692652
Jessie                38            69        103            84.692652
Nitemare_zero        26            56        42            85.81886
Violence Jack        58.1        125.1    65.1        87.392652
Jsunu                39            102        55            93.492652
Biggersmaller        150            50        50            99.307348
 

Penguin

The Mushroom Kingdom Knight
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Oct 25, 2017
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I just assumed it was cuz the thread said fall, and it comes out in Winter. But I guess Aquaman rejects that rule. Potentially Spider-Man, and probably Mary Poppins will make more than some of these. Anyone thinking Venom will outgross Mary Poppins is crazy. Beloved franchise, Lin Manuel Miranda, and a movie catering to the usually neglected female market? It's going to clean up

Looking through this one, and think may be my favorite post... because looking likely that Venom will easily outgross MAry Poppins