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A Genocide Incited on Facebook, With Posts From Myanmar’s Military (Published 2018)
With fake pages and sham accounts, the military targeted the mostly Muslim Rohingya minority group, said former military officials, researchers and civilian officials.
I still don't really understand the resistance to just calling people in here the whatsapp service was down. Are there really places in the world that have no phone service but have free wifi? That's just crazy to me. Wifi is way more "rich" than a basic phone tower or landline phone.
If this is ignorant, well, I can't help. I don't even know where to educate myself on such a thing since that's a very niche topic on the web.
If this is ignorant, well, I can't help. I don't even know where to educate myself on such a thing since that's a very niche topic on the web.
User Banned (1 Day): Dismissive Commentary over a Series of Posts
What exactly are you blaming facebook here for? Give me some examples if you don't mind.
Doesn't that kind of already happen with prisoners in the US? Who are charged ridiculous prices to use services on tablets they're given?
Okay, no. Just... no. People use FB and WhatsApp because of the infrastructure of where they're located. That isn't a "you" problem. That is a large-scale systemtic problem. If you're going to argue anything in this thread, at least respect that fact.
I miss the 90's...
I despise Facebook, but my issue with them is that I want accountability. Zuckerberg is all about moving fast and breaking things.
What happens when the thing you break is human lives because your service helped with genocide? Just shrug your shoulders and move on?
Silicon Valley as it currently exists does not value human lives. At all. This is what happens when you get a bunch of STEM majors together with not a whiff of any humanities thinkers in the vicinity. Just because you're a brilliant engineer, doesn't mean that you can figure out people easily.
My anxiety is spiking so hard just imagining what the morale in that office is like right now and how much shit they're going to get.
Someone's going to take the blame and probably not voluntarily.
I guess it's funny if the same people said both.
Are the same people saying both?
Messenger, insta and fb is working for me now. Whatsapp still down.
Your small business on FB is not the problem, nor is my own account which I merely use for concert/event planning. LOTS of other stuff on FB is really bad, however. And it's making the world a worse place overall.
Some people acting all high and mighty as if everything has to be either black or white is not very useful.
Sure, but tethering an entire commutation infrastructure to a single source (like WhatsApp) seems like a bad idea as today's shit show has overwhelmingly proven.
Well man, it's not like it has any effect on your life if you don't use it, right?
/s
Ah we are blaming Facebook for the genocide, clearly without facebook this would have never happened. /s
A Genocide Incited on Facebook, With Posts From Myanmar’s Military (Published 2018)
With fake pages and sham accounts, the military targeted the mostly Muslim Rohingya minority group, said former military officials, researchers and civilian officials.www.nytimes.com
The same article mentions Facebook is a tool, how it's used depends on the user.
We all hate facebook because we don't like your parents or your business!
No but it gives people entertainment thinking they're dunking on this nebulous "Era" that's everyone but no one at the same time.
Well my work Facebook group is up but I still can't post anything. Keeps saying that an error has occurred.
It does much more than point to point connections, though. Not sure what you mean.
There's a reason the world looks like this.
Yes, obviously.
yeah I know how it works, but I have quite some people in my social circle who never joined facebook or dumped it, and to be frank, I've never invited someone to a party if I didnt have their phonenumber to begin with.
made things easier. this sounds like the flimsy argument people say when 2A'ers defend guns wrt mass murders. facebook has made all sorts of crimes easy, it's weaponized right wing violence. it needs regulated.
"It's not the gun's fault, it's the person using the gun's fault"
Yeah we agree on that, the high and mighty stuff is what bothers me because you can find fault in anything and anyone if you look hard enough.
But you really don't have to look very hard. You'd have to be willfully blind at this point
Facebook has been a huge platform of vaccine misinformation. Just take a look at the hermancain subreddit. Also as another poster mentioned 90% of reports of child pornography came from Facebook.
There's apparently a defence force for literally everything.
Is the problem from facebook, or just the size and popularity of any platform this large eventually leading to this?
In DR, everyone uses WhatsApp, IG, and Facebook heavily. WhatsApp is integral for communication over there. Telegram is an alternative.
I'm in the dead center of Germany in my apartment and until a few months ago, me and other citizens of this town didn't have any phone service at all, depending on which side of a nearby hill you were living. The complex has Wi-Fi, but I don't have a physical phone connection. It's really depending on the geography more often than not.
they've had tools for better moderation but do not deploy them because they get more ad money this way
If you read the whistleblower articles, it's specifically because they profit off of engagement and willingly propagates that shit to get people riled up and engaged
Neither do I! How did you know?!
Facebook is not a gun, I'm anti-gun btw. We agree it needs to get their shit together so it's harder for their users to fall for alt-right and extremist views. Facebook has been used as a tool for social justice too and to punish and call out people who have done wrong.
Regulation is coming, but let's not pretend is easy. Who could regulate it and how? What would goverments do to regulate it and how would they make it work? It requires a lot of work and time to do so, and I'm sure with everything that has happened the last few years there are organisms working on it.
Facebook is great if you surround yourself with the right people, and it's absolutely an awful experience if you are around terrible people.
I feel like the reason why people like to hate on facebook is because it's easy and popular, but rarerly if ever think of ways to actually improve it. If facebook is just "gone", something else will replace it. And will it be better?
Okay. Imagine you live in one country.
And you want to call someone in another country.
How much does an international phone call cost?
Depending on where you're calling it could be like $5 a minute.
Okay, I respect that. I can understand it being a difficult thing in many countries. I will still however implore people to still seek out at least one alternative communication channel, regardless of difficulty. One shouldn't be losing contact with their loved ones because they lost access to their facebook account (which can happen for a endless list of reasons). Such a thing shouldn't be acceptable anywhere, and folks need to think about such things happening, because they can and do happen.
I've never heard such absolute nonsense in my entire life. Tech companies value human lives exactly as much as any other companies: not at all. The problem is that they're relatively unregulated compared to other industries, due to lobbying and (more importantly) a great many people in government not really understanding what they're dealing with half the time.
"this platform is shitty, extremely irresponsible and profits off of conspiracy theories and hate"
Very Smart Person: "yes but what if every platform would be like that if it was that big"
"oh okay you're right, I guess we should just accept it then"
Very Smart Person: "yes but what if every platform would be like that if it was that big"
"oh okay you're right, I guess we should just accept it then"
Those are the ones linked earlier? I'll check 'em out. How would we check that though, some sort of Fair Broadcasting Act revival?
One Of my sister lives in another continent and the other one lives in the middle of the Pacific.
Also, I live in a poor country where every bar, restaurant, university, gas station, gym and public square has free wi-fi but many people don't have the money to pay for a plan.
