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I hate facebook as much as the next guy, but people here pretending that old-ass SMS have the same functionalities, flexibility and reach as whatsapp are insane lol
Love to hear it. Make them squirm.
(Facebook should be required to divest WhatsApp and Instragram though. One company shouldn't have that much of a stranglehold on social media.)
I never said anything about What'sapp, I responded to someone saying imessage couldn't do group chats, but it does them perfectly fine.
What about them?
A) there aren't many of them.
B) Group chats still work with them anyway. You do lose some features, but there's nothing non-functional about the experience.
I also used an android for years before swapping to iphones, and I think the non-Americans in this thread REALLY act like using sms on an android is like being in the stone age. It's worse, for sure, but it's not different enough for people to care.
"yeah we undid society, but the feature set was worth it." vibes.
Wonder where FB would rank among "Most hated companies in the world."
Given all that's happened these past several years, they'd be #1 easily.
Given all that's happened these past several years, they'd be #1 easily.
I guess the play store is getting hit with a lot of downloads for the facebook app from people downloading, uninstalling, downloading, unistalling,....repeating trying to get facebook to work on their phone.
Yeah, sure, let me move about a couple billion people off Whatsapp and then convince my friends and every new person I meet to not use Instagram...
Maybe instead of acting like this is some personal responsibility thing - we push governments to limit Facebook's power?
imessage has everything whatsapp has and even more with better pictures and video quality
android sms, sure that's dog shit. but that's not new news
Someone fucked up with a BGP change or an insider threat did it I would guess.
Normally this would be caused by some benign fuck-up by someone in their IT department, but considering the scope, it's possible that the actions by whoever did it were malicious.
The bolded just shows that you really don't have any context for life outside of the US.
When WhatsApp rose in prominence SMS fees were (or could be) expensive, International Texts and Calls were highly expensive, and iPhone ownership throughout Europe was relatively minor. A group chat with a number of people texting instead of using Wifi from an international location would have costed everybody a lot of money on their phone bill, let alone when MMS or videos were factored in. People absolutely cared about that, and although iMessage eventually caught up to (some) of the features WhatsApp has, and although the EU has recently played a significant role in reducing international roaming fees, WhatsApp is ubiquitous and synonymous with texting.
stop using bad corporating facebook for everything
start using good corporation apple for everything
No? The rest of the world has plenty of other reasons not to use SMS (poor plans, charges across countries, etc) - you've been using whatsapp forever, but in the US there is little reason to do so, and SMS apps have long since moved past the major constraints presented by SMS as a standard. They still exist, but they're all handled in the apps themselves, so you don't run into character limits or anything like that, so to the user it really is irrelevant. Nobody in the US is stitting on some android phone using the built in texting apps and seeing anything crazily different than what you see in imessage or whatsapp. It just doesn't have some of the fun extra features that, frankly, everyone can live without.
At no point was I talking about WHY other countries don't use SMS - I totally understand why they don't, but the EXPERIENCE of using an android with SMS is not really that different, and in the US the concerns you listed don't exist. There is no compelling reason to use Whatsapp for an American that primarily interacts iwth other americans.
nah, fucking up BGP routing could really mess things up this badly.
I really don't know what you mean. I'm just saying that the reason whatsapp is so huge is that it's vastly superior to SMS. And it became ubiquitous way before facebook acquired it.
we are talking about people outside the US, why are you talking about people in the US?????
My SRE friend at Facebook saying it's a bad day to be an SRE at Facebook. It's not personally affecting him because his team isn't affected but sucks for the members that are.
If it wasnt different enough for people to care...then people would use it 0_0
This is absolutely the worst thing to happen when a big sale day for your business is coming up on Thursday and how much coordination happens over WhatsApp and Facebook Ads are the biggest lead generators.
I gotta say it's really weird how a lot of iPhone users only know other iPhone users.
Message an Android user with iMessage and you'll be sending them a SMS or MMS.
No, we aren't. If you want to hit the little back arrow button on my posts and the responses to my posts and so on back to the beginning of what I said, at no point were we talking about fucking americans or non americans. We were talking about group texts in iOS and SMS
Yes, everyone knows that, it also isn't functionally that different. for 99% of use cases it's the same thing except it's green.
I'd imagine working at Facebook on any day would be a bad day.
And people in the US, where the app functionaliy is the only actual reason they would switch, do not use it. There are external factors causing whatsapp to be so prominent elsewhere.
