Witcher 3 is kind of a special circumstance since the first 2 games weren't published on Playstation and haven't been published on Playstation.
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Ex-Guerilla Games developer on upset fans over HZD coming to PC: "What the hell is wrong with you people"?
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There's no such thing as "PC Technology" as a unified standard. There's just various possibilities that serve to splinter the PC gaming population into varying groups of the "Haves" and the "Have Nots." You can't build the kind of success most of these companies have on that alone.
Business 101
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I'm pretty sure current Guerilla developers feel the same. They are making more money for their place of employment.
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Check his post history. He's dead serious, hence why most people on the previous page disengaged with him.
Some people simply worship a piece of plastic and the company that outsourced it's parts, and they are completely blinded by their zealotry. Hence the whole OP.
I think PC experience a really good game like Horizon 2 is great, I also think we're putting to much focus on a very low percent of people who are pissed about an exclusive going multplat.
Ya, in a perfect world haha. Especially considering people may see it running at better frame rate and quality, it's only good for them.
Off topic but I feel the same about the NVIDIA streaming stuff, and it baffles my mind that devs don't want people experiencing their games on potentially better hardware just because. Let people play games where they want!!
Interesting article from 2014 when the trend of growing PC gaming popularity trend started:
Why PC Gaming is More Popular Than Ever
When it comes to video games, the major consoles soak up most of the attention.
www.cheatsheet.com
3...2..1... /Response/ "That journal is trash! They don't know anything! Game publishers stopped doing this because it was, in fact, unsuccessful!" (facepalm)
Since Stadia crashed and burned, PSNow is treading water at best, Publishers will spend more money to port and support the game then what they will actually get from people paying to stream the games.
Translation -> 'What he's saying can only be refuted by opinions, not FACTS"
NVIDIAs service only allows you to stream games you own though, it doesn't function like those other services. They aren't going to get more purchases by removing the ability of the purchaser to play the game they bought on rented out hardware. If anything it might make a handful disregard their game.
Most likely it will have no effect other than limiting what people are allowed to do with software they legally bought already.
Publishers also have to pay a licensing fee to be on the service and I'm sure they have to patch the games for them to optimized for the service. Whenever there's standardization there's a cost that has to be paid for that standardization, that's why publishers have to give a percentage of their sales to Steam when they release through Steam, it's why Epic crafted EGS and their public messaging as a counter to Steam specifically. Microsoft tried to do the same thing when they tried to kill Steam on Windows 10. Nvidia is no different, the percentage and license cost might be different it's just that most customers have no interest in "cloud streaming" in that regard Nvidia NOW a little different then the personal PC-> Nvidia Shield streaming because Nvidia servers (which are not free) stream a game you already have a key for.
They neither have to pay a licensing fee not do they need to patch anything, not sure where you got that info. It's literally the same as my spinning up an instance in AWS and installing Steam on it. All the licensing was done once I purchased the game, they aren't taking that license and moving it.
It sounds like you don't understand how NVIDIAs streaming works. Devs don't need to patch their game for me to install it on my friends beefier PC. NVIDIA isn't hosting a bunch of games to push them to you. They are literally instancing your steam account on a stronger PC. That's it. You are paying for access to the hardware they provide.
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I want to try and figure out at which point in history the PlayStation fandom became a Cult.
Look at the behavior in this thread, the mental breakdown reactions on Twitter over it, the ND Crunch thread, and the "Crunch vs No Crunch" meme on Twitter.
It's a Cult at this point. No two ways about it.
And of course the personalities within Sony 1P like to egg it on and fan the flames.
Look at the behavior in this thread, the mental breakdown reactions on Twitter over it, the ND Crunch thread, and the "Crunch vs No Crunch" meme on Twitter.
It's a Cult at this point. No two ways about it.
And of course the personalities within Sony 1P like to egg it on and fan the flames.
Do you have a source? Nvidia is a business not a charity the last time I checked.
So even in a topic about the PC version you'd rather change course and talk about the PS5 and think it's that too? I guess that explains the topic.
They are charging for the service, as I stated. They certainly are a business. But you seem to be under the impression that they are charging for access to the games, which they are not. You can only use games that you yourself already bought in full. You are paying NVIDIA to access their beefier hardware to then run your game on, for example, a crappy laptop.
The Crunch discussion was far more mental online when it was CDProjectRed, Bioware, EA etc. that were under the microscope from what I remember. The games industry was really at DEFCON 1 with the Battlefront 2 fiasco. This is like a loud whisper by comparison.
The amount of people who deflected to old Microsoft policy or said they didn't care about crossplay when Sony was the lone holdout was a sight to behold. There would be people who went into every single crossplay thread to say they didn't care it would argue that as a market leader it would not benifit Sony in any way. Speaking like shareholders. Every thread was a complete shitshow. Glad to see the Sony came around and now we all get to play games together but that was an eye opener in regards to some of the random on this site.
I probably wasn't clear, I was speaking specifically about the Nvidia Cloud games. Game publishers are most likely paying the licensing fee for the games to be on the cloud service, hence there were contracts that were needed and I think most or all were canceled, that's what I though you were commenting on.
As gamers we are paying to subsidize the Nvidia local streaming tech (PC->Shield) by paying the exorbidant prices that are charged for Nvidia's GPUs and also for shield devices, I've always felt that was a small scale experiment for their cloud services before scaling it up.
Ok first, cheatsheet.com, you couldn't at least do better than this? Like yeah right, like I'm going to go by that person's opinion...Interesting article from 2014 when the trend of growing PC gaming popularity trend started:
"So why is PC gaming seeing such a surge in popularity of late? A number of factors come into play. One is that many new PCs are capable of playing even the most impressive AAA titles these days (although probably not on the highest graphical settings). Most big games being released right now are made to be played on older consoles like the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. Those systems are approaching nine years of age, so it's no wonder today's moderately-priced computers come with hardware capable of playing those games."Why PC Gaming is More Popular Than Ever
When it comes to video games, the major consoles soak up most of the attention.
3...2..1... /Response/ "That journal is trash! They don't know anything! Game publishers stopped doing this because it was, in fact, unsuccessful!" (facepalm)
Second, 2014, the year we got Assassin's Creed Unity, Elite Dangerous, Wolfenstein New Order, Titanfall... all games developed with Xbox 360 and PS3 in mind right? 2014 is also the year I had a GTX 970 in my PC capable of doing much more than what consoles were doing at the time and it showed, just look it up!
So sorry but you are full of shit. And since when was 2014 the year PC gaming started to get popular? It's not like World of Warcraft, a PC GAME, had 12.5 million players at one time, and in 2009 at that! Can you please stop pulling stuff out of your ass now?
And even today, games like Star Citizen are being developed exclusively for PC and doing stuff way ahead of what consoles can do right now!
Thank you for the business lesson, however I don't see any meaningful difference.
The crossplay discussion was wierd because it felt like a neighbor knocking on your door and saying "If you don't give a me a cup of sugar from your table NOW I'm going to report you to the nieghbor's association for being 'Anti-Social' !" and they kept coming back and harrassing you until you just shoved them a cup of sugar, "Here, just take the damn sugar and go."
Star Citizen is not a game and it's no longer "State of the Art." Star Citizen at this point is a loose collective of interactive experiments suported by a relative minority of people financially...
Can someone explain to me what's going on with this thread?
In other words you don't want to discuss what's going on, including the PC version of HZD.
It wasn't Microsoft nagging Sony. It was game developers. Microsoft just changed their stance.
You're really showing your lack of knowledge on basically every subject you talk about.
oh yeah? tell it to my face, where ive spent over 10k in the game, YES, THE GAME...the game i play everyday. the massive game you are not seeing cause who knows what....the FULLY PLAYABLE game that i play every day. Trust me, star citizen is well beyond and above anything this generation.
Poor Sony. Getting harassed and bullied... by game developers... who wanted to implement crossplay.
What a tragic tale. /s
Why are you so defensive about Sony? They don't give a damn about you.
None of that is playable...It's a fly through of level design. I take that back, small chunks of it are playable in separate "modules."
I guess the people who have been playing the game for years now are wrong then. Pack it up folks.
Really because I took it as more like people knocking on their door and wanting to see if you wanted to come out and play basketball at the park and them never wanting to play with the other kids because they have a basketball court in their backyard
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You can find this behavior in all fandoms. Video games or non video games. Ever watch sports? Theres literal riots over sport games.
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"Star Citizen is a bit like an Instagram account: what you see looks amazing but the reality is hollow."
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Man, imagine knowing how to read.
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Cloud Imperium has outlined how survival mechanics will be implemented in Star Citizen.In the latest instalment of Insi…
(after 6+ years of development)Star Citizen, I am disappointed
Star Citizen is a bit like an Instagram account: what you see looks amazing but the reality is hollow. As it stands, at…
"Star Citizen is a bit like an Instagram account: what you see looks amazing but the reality is hollow."
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Lmao.
I don't know what this thread is on, but I'm gonna keep 6' from it.
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This post is just so incredibly myopic, wow. There are awful fans out there, that is the truth, but to call it a cult is so, so stupid.
Is this the level of your arguments? A video based on an incredibly flawed Forbes contributor article? Damn, dude, how are you still here?
With all the argumentative console warring, concern trolling, and blatant lies on this page alone from a certain individual, THIS ABOVE COMMENT is the one that's acted upon, and the member banned??
Ah yes, DREAMCAST GUY, the ultima authority on game development and business practices.