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jon bones

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Oct 25, 2017
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Nothing wrong with being concerned about what precedent this sets or advocating against even the potential of day and date releases, but some of these wackos on twitter take it way too far (assuming they are serious in the first place).

what is there to be concerned about?

why would any non-fanboy advocate against day & date releases on more platforms?
 

Jawmuncher

Crisis Dino
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Oct 25, 2017
38,527
Ibis Island
This is what years of closed platforms does to people. I've always preferred the idea of gaming being more open across the board, especially as it helps preservation. There's room to be worried on some regards, but the pros far outweigh the potential cons.

The more people can play, regardless of what box they prefer. The better.
 

Gradon

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Oct 25, 2017
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What a very normal human thing to do to your PlayStation.
 

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what is there to be concerned about?

why would any non-fanboy advocate against day & date releases on more platforms?
There is the argument that day and date releases lower the value of the investment of a console, as well the thought of buying an exclusive that looks and runs worse right off the bat compared to its day and date PC release isn't appealing. There is a value in exclusives that is undercut by having day and date releases.

I've got no problem with late releases like the 3 years for HZD, but I am entirely against day and date (+~6 month) releases. Which is something that Sony thankfully currently still agrees with.
 

Amnixia

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Jan 25, 2018
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The real joke here is that if the PS4 broke he's most likely going to buy another one.
 

Alexandros

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Oct 26, 2017
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There is the argument that day and date releases lower the value of the investment of a console, as well the thought of buying an exclusive that looks and runs worse right off the bat compared to its day and date PC release isn't appealing.

I would like to hear the full argument on these.
 

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There's a few idiots in every fanbase. You'd get the same thing from a few people online if Star Citizen or HL Alex were announced for consoles tomorrow.
 

Azurik

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Nov 5, 2017
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I just don't understand how people get upset over a console game coming to pc?
It remains a console exclusive and more people get exposed to the game, meaning more money for the devs for future projects. What's wrong with that??

same with death stranding. Some twitter comments are hilarious Such as Kojima has done Sony over. Took their money and is now releasing the game on PC. Calling him traitor and all sorts.

game remains exclusive on Sony consoles, but more people get to play it and Kojima gets more money for his games.
 

DrKelpo

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Oct 25, 2017
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wait, wait, wait... this dude (apparently) smashed his room and cries because a formerly exclusive game is coming to pc now.

This can't be real... it's not real, right??
 

Jaded Alyx

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Oct 25, 2017
35,385
There is the argument that day and date releases lower the value of the investment of a console, as well the thought of buying an exclusive that looks and runs worse right off the bat compared to its day and date PC release isn't appealing. There is a value in exclusives that is undercut by having day and date releases.

I've got no problem with late releases like the 3 years for HZD, but I am entirely against day and date (+~6 month) releases. Which is something that Sony thankfully currently still agrees with.
How does this affect you?

Do you have a problem with buying non-exclusives that look and run worse right off the bat?
 

MrChillaxx

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Jan 13, 2018
334
I honestly thought the office trashing video was fake/staged/parody of some sorts. Kinda scary if it's not.
 

KainXVIII

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Oct 26, 2017
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sirap

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Oct 25, 2017
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wait, wait, wait... this dude (apparently) smashed his room and cries because a formerly exclusive game is coming to pc now.

This can't be real... it's not real, right??

No one really knows if the meltdown was real or if it was a troll job (apparently the dude had an ERA account lol)

Real or not there's a nutjob in every fandom and giving them attention only encourages that behavior.
 

Dictator

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Oct 26, 2017
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There is the argument that day and date releases lower the value of the investment of a console, as well the thought of buying an exclusive that looks and runs worse right off the bat compared to its day and date PC release isn't appealing. There is a value in exclusives that is undercut by having day and date releases.

I've got no problem with late releases like the 3 years for HZD, but I am entirely against day and date (+~6 month) releases. Which is something that Sony thankfully currently still agrees with.
The value of exclusives for whom exactly? Do day and date PC releases of console games make the person playing that console game have a less valuable experience?

I do not get it.
 

Gifmaker

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Oct 29, 2017
964
Just part of the same old elitism that also gave birth to the PC masterrace meme. If you market a brand like Playstation to feed into people's sense of superiority, that's what happens. Besides, they feel betrayed because they invested in a platform in order to get great exclusives in return, and now these same games are being made available to people who did not contribute to that investment.
 

Euler007

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Jan 10, 2018
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Would be so nice to play BOTW at 1440p 144fps. Even docked it felt like the game was held back by the hardware.
 

Elliott

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Oct 25, 2017
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The value of exclusives for whom exactly? Do day and date PC releases of console games make the person playing that console game have a less valuable experience?

I do not get it.
Brand loyalty is a helluva drug.
PCs can cost 3x-4x times that of a console - if it runs better there, it makes sense. Not everyone wants to spend that money for the most powerful machine, but those that do can put that power to use. I prefer consoles myself, but I'm happy my PC friends can play good games like Forza Horizon or HZD.

Keep in mind - you are not investing in a console - you purchased one. You are not part of the team that sells it, nor do you receive dividends for its success. You simply purchased it to play games, and those games come out and you play them. If someone else is playing them at a more steady framerate on a $1,500 rig how on earth does that change your experience at home?

The value of a game is that you get to play it, not that others do not. Outside of corporate bootlickers, no one should care if others get to play a game.
Say it louder for those at the back.
 

jon bones

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Oct 25, 2017
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There is the argument that day and date releases lower the value of the investment of a console, as well the thought of buying an exclusive that looks and runs worse right off the bat compared to its day and date PC release isn't appealing. There is a value in exclusives that is undercut by having day and date releases.

I've got no problem with late releases like the 3 years for HZD, but I am entirely against day and date (+~6 month) releases. Which is something that Sony thankfully currently still agrees with.

PCs can cost 3x-4x times that of a console - if it runs better there, it makes sense. Not everyone wants to spend that money for the most powerful machine, but those that do can put that power to use. I prefer consoles myself, but I'm happy my PC friends can play good games like Forza Horizon or HZD.

Keep in mind - you are not investing in a console - you purchased one. You are not part of the team that sells it, nor do you receive dividends for its success. You simply purchased it to play games, and those games come out and you play them. If someone else is playing them at a more steady framerate on a $1,500 rig how on earth does that change your experience at home?

The value of a game is that you get to play it, not that others do not. Outside of corporate bootlickers, no one should care if others get to play a game.
 

JoeInky

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Oct 25, 2017
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Of course, who wouldn't? It's why I was against the idea of mid-gen refreshes too.

Maybe people who bought a console and don't have a PC? People whose friends mostly play on their console? People who prefer the console environment?

I'm sure you've bought 0 third party games on PS4 that also released on PC right?
 

cowbanana

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Feb 2, 2018
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Some people are just pathetic, console warriors are among the worst. The insecurity on display is palpable and you can taste it in so many threads on this very forum.
 

OG_Thrills

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Oct 27, 2017
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I'm seriously considering deleting twitter. That or creating a new account that never views a gaming tweet so the nonsense doesn't end up on my timeline.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I fully understand his issue, nay, plight. Brand loyalty is also my only defining characteristic trait. What are we without it? Sony has just themselves in the foot...
 

Nightengale

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Oct 26, 2017
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To me, it's really fucking simple.

Is a part of me worried that Sony's strategy to bring their games to PC could potentially backfire, hurt their sales - and ultimately hurt their overall profitability/stability and capacity to reinvest and make their current games/devs do bigger and better stuff?

Sure.

But at the same time, that is just a passing 'concern', that has nothing to do with me. It's just my armchair analyst voice in my ear thinking about the potential outcomes of this decision.

As a consumer and fan, does it, and should it bother me - that more people that doesn't own a PlayStation get to play Horizon?

Fuck no.
 

jaymzi

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Jul 22, 2019
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I feel like this is overblown.

I bet the amount that are really going overboard by throwing a tantrum are minuscule. And they are most likely hamming it up to get views.

I never trust the internet when it comes to over the top reactions.
 

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Dan Thunder

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There is the argument that day and date releases lower the value of the investment of a console, as well the thought of buying an exclusive that looks and runs worse right off the bat compared to its day and date PC release isn't appealing. There is a value in exclusives that is undercut by having day and date releases.

I've got no problem with late releases like the 3 years for HZD, but I am entirely against day and date (+~6 month) releases. Which is something that Sony thankfully currently still agrees with.
As someone with all three current consoles it doesn't bother me in the slightest if a manufacturers exclusive comes out on PC at the same time. For it's a choice between a cheaper console and a slightly more expensive game or an expensive PC and a cheaper game. I certainly wouldn't feel like my investment in 'X' machine had been undercut because someone on a completely dissimilar platform could play the same game on the same date.

I can kind of see the issue people have if an exclusive came out on a rival console but to me a PC & console differ wildly in terms of experience. I'm probably not explaining this very well but I wouldn't buy a PC to play console games and I wouldn't buy a console to play PC games so to me it doesn't matter if they both have the same games.
 

DaciaJC

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Oct 29, 2017
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There is the argument that day and date releases lower the value of the investment of a console

How?! Console players are able to play the game on their preferred system just as before. There should be absolutely no difference to them.

as well the thought of buying an exclusive that looks and runs worse right off the bat compared to its day and date PC release isn't appealing.

And I'm sorry, but this just speaks to some level of personal insecurity. How do these people possibly cope with the idea of numerous third-party games that look and run better on PC from day one?
 

GhostTrick

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Oct 25, 2017
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There is the argument that day and date releases lower the value of the investment of a console, as well the thought of buying an exclusive that looks and runs worse right off the bat compared to its day and date PC release isn't appealing. There is a value in exclusives that is undercut by having day and date releases.

I've got no problem with late releases like the 3 years for HZD, but I am entirely against day and date (+~6 month) releases. Which is something that Sony thankfully currently still agrees with.


Let's be real: Even if all platforms had no exclusives, you'd still buy a PlayStation
Deal with it, Day and date releases will happen. Better start getting used to it.
 

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My only concern with exclusives coming to PC is that someday consoles will die out. Sure someday it will happen but maybe this speeds up the process. I like fixed hardware and find it fascinating what some developers can accomplish with a potato CPU that is used by the PS4 or Xbox One.