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EVO reveals final entrants number per fighting game for its 2019 edition
- Thread starter Dreamboum
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Response time isn't input lag. You're not gonna get input lag in the ~1 ms range unless you're talking like medical equipment. The Evo monitor for the past decade or so has had an input lag of 10ms, which is close to as low as it gets for consumer monitors/TVs.
AFAIK Netplay using the official adapter on PC is now actually lower latency than playing on CRT for whatever reason so its considered unoptimal practice.
I think more Asian tournies means less incentive for Asians to travel to the US. Level of competition at an Asian major is just as high at EVO. Also TWT might be a factor as well.
I don't actually keep up too much with the Melee community, but I assume it's because PCs are running the game faster than a gamecube/wii would so that leads to a reduction of input lag. Well, maybe that phrasing is wrong, but something like that.
Low tier city 7 recently tried using all monitors with adapters and sparked a discussion on all of this in the melee community because of several top players saying the setups were noticeably laggy at the tournament, with other players saying it was just placebo. Here's an article showing how monitors have about 4-6ms more input lag over playing on a CRT and how its plausible for players to be able to notice it:
That's not to say that playing melee on monitors isn't a viable strategy for some tournaments, just that the idea that monitors don't add latency isn't true.
Yeah for netplay people use faster melee, which is a fork of dolphin emulator that reduces the innate input delay in the game. This way when you go online and add a buffer, you can get similar input lag to real hardware.
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Doesn't a difference of 4ms equal out to something like 4 thousandths of a second? I know pros are on a different level when it comes to stuff like that but that still sounds like some sort of placebo effect.
I think its largely because of how bad the alternatives were for a long time. Early non-crt television sets were borderline unplayable.
These days there are some great gaming monitors and I really don't mind that instead of CRT
I don't follow the scene, mainly watched during evo top 8s, but ima check it out!
also, i dunno if this is necessarily the same thing, but ps4 dbfz has 2 fr of extra lag compared to pc (which is why many will say that online pc is the 2nd best way to prepare for tourneys, other than local ps4 ofc, plus training room allows you to add fr delay which can emulate ps4 local on pc), and when I switch between the two for online tourneys it honestly does make a world of difference. ps4 feels like molasses despite the difference being so miniscule...
Arslan Ash vs Knee is the best storyline of EVO by far. I'm still stunned Arslan Ash got his visa.
Pools to be posted tonight.
That said, if you're registered and check Smash.gg right now, the general schedule is up, even if individual pools can't be viewed. There's a HUGE change in plans that got spoiled by this, however.
MK11 has been added to Sunday's finals, which start at 10 AM. Sunday finals order is: BBTag, MK11, Smash, SFVAE, T7.
Other finals start times:
SCVI: 8 PM Friday
UNIST: 10 AM Saturday
DBFZ: 1 PM Saturday
SamSho: 4 PM Saturday
Other finals start times:
SCVI: 8 PM Friday
UNIST: 10 AM Saturday
DBFZ: 1 PM Saturday
SamSho: 4 PM Saturday
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Nice, glad that MK11 gets the stage, been a lot of fun watching that game.
With the schedule change, Saturday night is now dedicated to MK, Tekken, SF and Smash semifinals, so I'm guessing they didn't adjust the other Saturday games because they didn't want those games' top 8s conflicting with big games' semis.
To gauge public opinion. They're not going to solely decide the schedule based off that poll, it just allows them more info to make a decision.
This is horrible, lol. Not only are they back to 5 games, but Smash is a mid card now! Good luck to anyone wanting to watch SF or Tekken outside the US.
Is there a reason why BB Tag final is on Sunday when it has the lowest number of entrance?
Ah I see. It's crazy to see DBFZ having the most entrance and a great Sunday final to having Saturday final in just a year..
They also never pick Sunday games based off of possible entrant numbers. They usually do it to pair up with announcements or something.
DBFZ top 8s are also some of the longest out of any fighting games and they were probably trying to avoid going overtime now that people are more aware.
Saturday finals also have announcements, right? I am looking forward to DBFZ announcement.
Based on that schedule, I won't be seeing one Top 8 in person (will arrive on Sat. morn) and I'll miss part of the first Top 8 on Saturday (hopefully)
I'm sorry what? You'll have to PM me a link. Something to watch while grinding it out in FFXIV
It's very common for a fighting game's numbers to drop like a rock from Year 1 to Year 2. Everyone wants to make a big deal about it, but it should just be expected. The real stories are the fighting games that increase in numbers year over year.
They do, yes. Well, SamSho likely won't, as SNK were upfront with what's in the first season pass and when to expect each character.
BB Tag is such a fast game , and not very popular. This means you have no chance of falling behind schedule, and you're not causing many folks to get up early.
My EVO gonna be done real early. Sunday gonna be a Vegas day no matter what.
They didn't know the entrant numbers when they made decision... in other words, ASW paid to make it happen. Publishers have been using Evo as a marketing tool for years, there's nothing sacred about which games show up or why.
Why in the world was MK11 added to Sunday?!
Smash should definitely have been last because Sunday is going to go way overtime.
