I don't disagree with any of this you right about that. Been staning tooooo long lol ima just not watch no more and hopefully it's out soon
Ppl were asking tons of questions in chat beyond just a release date some very basic stuff and it's still "more information closer to launch" launch is supposedly this year according to y'all so how about more communication
I think a lot of people are overlooking these realities; Dreams is an especially complex piece of software, so it needs time and a massive amount of work and preparation to do it justice (MM is still a relatively small studio of over 50 people). I would like to contribute in this thread more, but I've been put off by how hostile it's become.
This is why I don't say nothing in here anymore you can't be disappointed without somehow not understanding game dev and so on. Now I get what u was talking about before
Obviously you can be disappointed and express that but some folks acting like it's such a huge deal that their life is in turmoil. The kicker is when someone complains it's not done and should be out already - that's what my comment was referring to.
If this stops them from working yes and no. Like I said earlier in the thread, "Hope y'all enjoy" so I want ppl to enjoy it I simply can't this info don't hit me no more
The only people acting black & white about it are those jumping to conclusions and going for the victim card rather than responding to what I actually said.
That's super fair. All I wanted to say is it's fine to be disappointed with the way Mm has done things, but acting like they can just "do something different" with great confidence is the part where I get annoyed. No one here is privy to the constraints under which Mm is operating. As it's been suggested, there may be complications we're unaware of which they are furiously trying to solve behind the scenes. If they aren't giving us dates, it may be that the state the game is in has far too many unknown factors for them to give us something reliable. We all understand that setting a date they're unsure of reaching could cause more harm than the radio silence if they end up missing the mark, as they've done so many times already. Same thing with the feature list and tools, no one is going to be happy if they have to roll back the scope after showing us things that don't end up in the final product.
I can feel you. For what's it's worth, I feel like this last stream had value insofar as it was one dude working on a piece of art which to me is as indicative of what to look forward post-release as the rest. I don't mean to say this in a way implies this is the extent of what we should expect. I fully understand the thirst to see a game-ass game in Dreams, on an enthusiast forum like this especially. There's so much in this package, some people are going to be drawn to maybe a specific portion of it. But I think Mm see all parts of their game as having equal value. That someone working on their own little, self-contained piece has as much value as the industrious, ambitious game designer trying to push Dreams past its breaking point. My take on this is they're predicting that the ratio of UGC will lean towards the small stuff like individual assets or small projects more than fully-featured, meaty interactive experiences. To them, these streams aren't a straightforward means of presenting news updates but rather to be like a microcosm of the culture they hope will crop up from the community. And from my perspective, it's a little sad if people (not aimed at you, bleg) devalue that kind content. I wouldn't want it to feel like the 1.5 or 2 hours someone spent making a werewolf character is somehow lesser than the guy who spent that much time making a playable level.
Yeah, I think some people are going to be taken back by how hard some of this stuff actually is. Like, with the sculpting stuff, these are professional artists who have been drawing, painting and modelling for years and years.
4 devs and 52 hours to creat comic sands
See, I think this is a bit unreasonable.
