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Every Jedi who survived Order 66, except Yoda, vs Sheev and Vader
- Thread starter Septimus Prime
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Vader the Vader that got royally fucked up on his prime by a higher ground Obi-Wan?
The Jedi could take on the Empire on a weekend.
The Jedi could take on the Empire on a weekend.
One of those people you mention is specifically not a Jedi. That person even has a red lightsaber.
That's an interesting perspective, I haven't heard that before. I buy it, although I do maintain Leia could have done what Luke did if she had trained with Ben and/or Yoda. Vader only knew her as a rebel, but he didn't know she was his daughter. In that sense, I don't think she's any different than Luke -- and before he dies, Vader's final thoughts turn to her.
Just skip the movie. Hell, it only gets better the further you go and the age restriction got lifted.
Anakin has an apprentice because the Jedi are so short staff, they need more Jedi on the field so people who have no preparedness for training (or apprentices who have no ready for total war) get thrown in the meat grinder.
Arguably in the new canon it's easier. In the old canon the Jedi were way more powerful.
They gave Anakin a padawan because they knew he could teach Ahsoka well - but Yoda says at the end of the movie that the true lesson was for Anakin because they wanted him to learn to let her go.
He got done dirty as Kit was hella strong. Sidious is just OP as fuck. He literally dances around Maul and his brother before effortlessly killing Savage and torturing Maul.
No, in the old Canon you had super powerful Jedi and others that died by the hundreds.
In the new Canon Jedi are rarer and harder to kill. You just don't have starkiller types running around.
Regular people.
I mean who have Jedi and with dying by the dozens in the old republic.
In general.
The old Canon made some Jedi super gods and a bunch of others battledroids.
How old is Luke supposed to be in the original Star Wars trilogy? Because it's weird how Anakin in his early 20s and Obi-wan in his early 30s both turning into old farts by the time Luke looks like he's supposed to be 18.
A considerable amount of time passes between episode 2 and 3. Anakin is not in his early twenties during episode 3. Clone wars are like years long IIRC
Anakin looks old because he was burned to shit. Kenobi doesn't look that old, he looks to be in his 60's in the original trilogy.
Unless some reason book or comic showed that, no he died and is dead.
So many folks complaining about shit that happens before the OT.
No idea where the "jedi are everywhere" stuff is coming from. Most of them are dead by the time of ANH
No idea where the "jedi are everywhere" stuff is coming from. Most of them are dead by the time of ANH
Huh? The films show you pretty well how it worked, the Jedi were often operating alone with a ton of Clone Troopers under their command. Clone Troopers with abilities on par with Jango Fett, who was strong enough to give Obi Wan a good fight. They also had the element of surprise. The Jedi weren't expecting to be betrayed by their own troops, and even if they survived an initial surprise attack they were usually surrounded by hostiles.
It makes sense why a few Jedi could escape, but it's made clear how easily most of them would be killed in such unfavorable odds.
Kit did get a pretty great fight against Grievous in The Clone Wars. He took the guy on far easier than Obi-Wan did and was much more chill too. It's a pretty big shame he never got a chance to shine in the actual movies 'cause he seemed like one of the best.
Even so, yeah, Palpatine was stupidly powerful. Maul was easily as strong as Windu or Dooku and Palpatine just toyed with him even when he was enraged by Savage's death.
Vader almost got his ass killed in an EU comic by Jedi who survived.
He actually is still in his early 20s. He's a ripe old forty-five when unmasked in RotJ.
Anakin is only 23 in Revenge of the Sith....The Clone Wars only last three years. The empire only being around for 19 years, (Luke's age in ANH), was not part of the original plan.
Pretty sure Lucas is on record saying that Mace was one of the most powerful Jedi and he also beat Sidious one on one.
Oh I didn't realize he was that young still, thought he was mid to late twenties. Either way, he looks bad when unmasked as vader because of his severe burns, has nothing to do with age.
Yeah Mace is one of the most powerful, more powerful than Obi-Wan and probably second to Yoda in terms of pure martial strength. It is POSSIBLE that Mace could've killed Sheev, it just didn't shake out that way due to Anakin's interference and the nature of Sheev's powers.
That's an ideal version of Anakin as a force ghost without his injuries, should be obvious given the fact that he was severely burned and dismembered. You know that, lol.
Yeah that's my point. Look how old that idealized version of him looks.
Doesn't it lessen the impact of Luke and his role In ROTJ? If it turns out he and Leia weren't the last Jedi left, the stakes weren't that high after all and had he failed during his confrontation with the Emperor, it seems.many others could have pursued a renewed attempt.
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People age in SW differently.
Just look at Obi-Wan from ROTS to ANH.
Are you talking about the Force Ghost Anakin or Vader when Luke takes his mask off? Because when Luke takes the mask off Vader is clearly just severely disfigured. Force ghost Anakin was retconned into Hayden Christiansen.
It's still nowhere as funny as Supreme Leader Snoke. I get that part of Star Wars is giving the villains goofy names, but he legit sounds like a mumble rapper YouTube personality who gets kids hooked on weed or something.
As far as I can tell, Palpatine let Windu win so that Anakin would be forced to choose between the Jedi Order (that he wanted any excuse to leave) and saving Padme.
Not saying Windu wasn't the best the Jedi had to offer but it wasn't enough. Anakin could've beaten him and I think Palpatine could have too.
So just pointing out, the actor was 77 when that scene was filmed. The rapid aging thing is just one of those PT missteps that we're supposed to just accept and not question. Sorta like Leia remembering Padme for....the like minute that they were together.
how is 2 jedi that don't use the force at all a balance to 2 Sith that use the force willy nilly just to punish failure.
Even when I thought that it was complete nonsense.
Obi Wan's an old ass man who's ready to become one with the force. Obi Wan in his prime would have whipped old man Vader.
This is one interpretation but depending on the author 'balance to the force' means different things. I think that the cannon is that the 'dark side' is a warped version of the force that is not natural and therefore not part of the balance. (this is a sucky interpretation but hey)