As the House buys time before handing over articles of impeachment to the Senate, can voices like this move Trump supporters to wake up from their fever dream and leave their MAGA caps behind?
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Evangelical magazine 'Christianity Today' calls for Trump to be REMOVED
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Is there a particular reason people are calling them pedophile supporters besides it being a Christian publication?
Worth noting some background about this site:
1. Founded by Billy Graham
2. Said the same thing about Nixon in 74 and Clinton in 98.
They avoid speaking directly about political figures like this, preferring to discuss issues and align with what evangelicals should believe.
That's what makes this so powerful. They aren't just another voice; they are easily the most recognizable and distinguished outlet for evangelicalism.
This won't go away, even if it doesn't move the line for Trump's supporters. It's a direct rebuke to Graham's son (Franklin) and to the culture he's fostered.
1. Founded by Billy Graham
2. Said the same thing about Nixon in 74 and Clinton in 98.
They avoid speaking directly about political figures like this, preferring to discuss issues and align with what evangelicals should believe.
That's what makes this so powerful. They aren't just another voice; they are easily the most recognizable and distinguished outlet for evangelicalism.
This won't go away, even if it doesn't move the line for Trump's supporters. It's a direct rebuke to Graham's son (Franklin) and to the culture he's fostered.
Evangelicals have been shown to be huge frauds. Their faith is a cheap and ugly thing that is easily swayed by the orange calf they worship. Their idolatry is cult-like and amoral. They won't care.
I dare them to prove me wrong.
I dare them to prove me wrong.
There's a reason he's not mentioned - Trump is the one whose conduct needs to be exposed. Saying these things about Pence would be inflammatory in a way that would obscure their objective.
Of course he's next if anything happens, but that's neither here nor there right now.
I sent this to my MAGA brother and he replied that Christianity Today is a liberal magazine read mostly by millennials.
Also worth noting - this site has been saying similar things for a while, but this is easily the most direct.
Speak Truth to Trump (from 2016)
Speak Truth to Trump (from 2016)
There's only so much you can do for someone. It takes work to live in an insulated bubble.
The demographics of the site are probably very different than what he suspects.
What is the actual current demographic readership of Christianity Today? Additionally, fwiw, I bear in mind that pence is in if Trump is out and so the motivations behind this still do not deter from my mind the model of the all-in republican.
They have nothing else, so of course not. Their identity is tied up with MAGA more than its tied up with being human. MAGA life until death for a good 80% of them I'd say.
Evangelical leaders knew Trump was a deal with the devil, but Pence was their pocket straight laced guy that would inevitably take the reins once Trump shoots himself in the foot enough.
Don't think they expected their flock to become true believers and love Trump like they do right now, Ican see them trying to shadow campaign to get Trump out.
Yeah, this is going to do nothing but get Christianity Today labelled as a bunch of leftist or socialists or whatever.
Evangelicals built this golden idol as a trojan horse, but now it's come to life and it keeps shitting everywhere, and the people won't stop worshipping it.
Evangelicals built this golden idol as a trojan horse, but now it's come to life and it keeps shitting everywhere, and the people won't stop worshipping it.
They get about 5 million site visits a month on their website and about 2.5 million read their magazine.
It's not nothing but it isn't even a dent in the Trump base.
It's not nothing but it isn't even a dent in the Trump base.
This may be a controversial opinion, but why do we need to save terrible people? Trump isn't why they're shitty, they were shitty before him. Trump just made them feel more confident being openly shitty.
Don't expect much from this. American "Christians" who support Trump, or the GOP in general for that matter, have decades of experience at not caring what their religion actually says. If you think they're going to choose between their religion and politics, think again. They will believe what they want, and claim the Bible supports them anyway.
Since Trump, they've taken ignoring facts to a whole new level, but it's a skill they did already have.
Since Trump, they've taken ignoring facts to a whole new level, but it's a skill they did already have.
I really don't it does, his supporters don't give a shit. It was never about God, morals, ethics, etc. It is about winning and getting the things you want, nothing else matters anymore.
I guarantee he had never heard of Christianity Today before he said that sentence.
For a president that won by 70,000 votes, an audience of 2.5m-5m is nothing?
Just had a family member post a meme saying is Hillary Clinton potus now. They don't care about anything but trolling and winning. Anyone that remotely cared about religious and moral values would have bolted out after grab em by the pussy.
Absolutely. The same people downplaying kids in cages because "they broke the laws" are the exact same that believes nothing should happen when their boy breaks laws detrimental to the nation.
Depends where the 2.5m-5m is located. If they are in Michigan, Wisconsin, or Pennsylvania, then game over. If they are in the Deep South, then 🤷‍♂️.
So his moral character wasn't known? I was raised in an evangelical home, they don't care so long as he protects guns, cuts taxes, bans abortion, and shits on minorities.
That coupled with stupid shit like the food stamps isn't helping him with people. 80k isn't that many people to impact.
99% of Republican white evangelical Protestants oppose impeaching and removing Trump, new poll finds...
This means nothing. Evangelicals have proven time and time again that as long as they get their judges and laws the don't care about character.
This...is a profound observation. Nicely done. That's what this Op-Ed is about