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Imagine if liberals didn't keep pushing their party more right so they didn't have to adopt their same arguments.
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Eva Murry's harassment accusation (14-year-old) against Biden shown false by ABC reporter Sasha Pezenik
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a better world that involves ceding any and all power to the right, because of your eager willingness to do their work for them?
they thank you.
I wouldn't say this point was lost. This was something multiple people brought up in the first month of metoo and a bunch of people here preferred to staunchly believe any accusation because it was that important to emphasize how much their abuses were being downplayed for generations.
What are you talking about, the liberal party has been pushed left
In what world do you equate the actions of the left to be at all similar to the actions of the right? I'll tell you right now nobody on the left would be citing Kavanaugh as a means to defend their boy wonder.
It's a bummer things gotta be like this. We could be so successful together; star crossed lovers building a path to a world with medicare for all and fixing the homelessness crisis while paying people properly for their labor and doing away with billionaires and their power over the world. Oh well...
EDIT: Sorry I shouldn't be a jerk, I'm just frustrated. But I am serious. I really wish things weren't like this. This arguing back and forth about everything is an absolute drag. I honestly hope we can come together at some point in the future but we all might be too stubborn for it.
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Considering how left the party has been pushed compared to 2012 I have no clue what you are talking about.
The left haven't been helping the right gain power, completely ahistorical bullshit.
Lmao
In the world, where you have leftists sharing alt right links and edited videos. That world.
I shouldn't be doing this, this is a serious matter
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Shh. Don't you know that not adopting the exact platform of the most left primary candidate is moving rightward?
To the point, this doesn't somehow absolve Biden's behaviour towards women and children. The fact that is was incredibly believable says a lot on its own. Unless you believe Reade's allegation is also false?
Lol, you could just quote me. Criticising the dems isn't helping the right gain power no matter how much liberals want to believe it. But go off.
Holding people accountable for their actions is the right thing to do.
Lol, this isn't the own you think it is.
Lol, you could just quote me. Criticising the dems isn't helping the right gain power no matter how much liberals want to believe it. But go off.
Holding people accountable for their actions is the right thing to do.
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What left primary candidate? Bernie? dude was the compromise candidate. M4A is like the most basic shit a leftist party could present and we failed to do that LMAO.
lmao thats complete ahistorical bullshit you know.
now let me spend all of my internet time shitting on democrats far more than the fascist right inches away from having abject power in the supreme court and many other courts.
both sides you know... but these fucking useless democrats are the absolute worst i swear. DNC! PELOSI!
In what world is the right empowered from posts in an internet gaming forum? Like, real talk, if every "neverBiden" on this website actively voted for Trump, it would not form a single blip on the scale. That's how uninfluential this site is. And that's assuming those people don't change their minds come November. A good chunk of people you seem to deem leftists probably will vote Biden.
You are arguing in bad faith and this is going to be my last response.
What file are we talking about? Are they just personal notes they wrote down themselves? In that case no, that's not evidence.
I'll make it easier for you: short a video corroborating what they say (that is that they went on stage and said they were sorry Biden couldn't be there), or a number of people coming forward and saying they did not meet Biden, I'm not going to dismiss the accusation in my mind
I know right. All the GOP has to do is sit back and let the "left" do their work for them. IT's only gonna get worse because certain people are still angry that their candidate didn't win.
My point was that people in the original thread jump up and down with rage without even looking at the article and source, then likely going on to further spread fake news.
You're not being entirely fair. Consider that a lot of leftists spend time attacking democrats because democrats are their closer allies and it's already assumed that republicans are horrible, moreover there's pretty much no republicans here (that talk politics anyway) so conversations will naturally gravitate towards the positions that are held on this forum. It's completely normal.
For what it's worth this Murry accusations has absolutely zero bearing on what Biden did to Reade, and one of the reasons people were so quick to believe it, even though it might be a lie, is that Biden is a known creep and that's pretty much impossible to dispute.
Hopefully a more properly written article is published tomorrow.
It's a shame that Twitter thread was poorly written and subsequently deleted.
It's a shame that Twitter thread was poorly written and subsequently deleted.
What makes you think this is even about that? Bernie endorsed Biden he fucking sucks. I'm far more interested in upholding the idea of believing people that come forward with claims of sexual assault than continuing any kind of political posting wars you think I'm participating in with you.
So now we have Leftists working for the Right(lmfao) with this and the Reade allegation is a Russian opp.
What's next?
What's next?
That is not how this works.
Apparently it does, those videos and gifs were fake, don'tcha know? Biden is completely absolved./s
Oh okay that makes sense. Thanks. Hopefully we will get a full article today.
its called poisoning the well, and of course im talking about something bigger than this website.
Youtube, Twitter, Facebook, etc.. Leftist social media is toxic as shit, filled with its fairshare of privlidged grifters (who influence) who couldnt actually give a shit if it all burned.
again, the right thanks you. Again.
Please provide, will full context (not a 2 second clip), a video showing Biden unquestionably doing something worse than saying sexual things about a 14 year old girl to her face.
You know that would be something if I didn't really use twitter, facebook, or social media sites. And why the fuck are you 'thanking' me? Am I helping the right because...well because what? How am I helping the right?
Lowering the bar to make the footage seem better in comparison doesn't really help Biden.
Nothing about those clips are acceptable, so I don't know what you're trying to achieve.
Superficial analysis, I thought terminally online leftists lived in a bubble.
The right don't gain influence because a few online leftists roasted some libs on Twitter, they have gained influence in the states because dems have capitulated.
1) hosts keep track of who attends their dinner. Those files would be kept.
2) this Politico article(https://www.politico.com/story/2008/03/bush-brings-down-the-house-at-gridiron-club-008921) from 2008 does not mention Biden being at the gridiron club dinner that year. If he was there, it would have definitely been noted since he was a presidential candidate that year.
if you're well-informed, you'd also know this event notoriously does not allow video footage.
Going to get a lot of false accusations about Biden. Not saying some are not true but A LOT of stuff is going to be made up by the right wing wackos.
bernie endorsing biden is irrevelent to how leftists social media behaves.
These types are more interested in bringing down the dnc, pelosi, biden, etc... than they are trump. It should be all hands on deck and not lets peddle suspect bullshit before any real reporting is done like you might also see on right wing platforms.
I would like you to provide evidence of the claim that "The videos and gifs we have of Biden in action are worse than these allegations. ".
You have a weird standard for evidence: you want someone to proof they weren't at an event by showing a 2008 video of someone at the event acknowledging they are not there, for which they would have no reason to do so.
Keep punching left, lol. Holding them accountable for enabling men like Trump to gain power doesn't make one Trump-like.
Because that's what the organizer is saying. He says Biden couldn't be there because, in fact, he acknowledged his absence during the spoof video presentation.
Mine was merely an example of what would constitute "evidence" to me.
edit: reread the OP. What he says he's that, had Biden been there, he would have aknowledged him. I misunderstood. But as I noticedm I was just giving an example. The fact of the matter remains that the title of the thread does not reflect my conviction, and I believe it's innacurate. Nothing has been shown conclusively, and people are latching onto these statements for the sake of brushing off Biden's problems.
With that said, I'm not excluding the possibility that conclusive evidence against the allegation may surface anyway. But the statements in the twitter thread, and everything else mentioned in there, is not enough for me, for the reasons I have already explained.
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So are you saying all of the leftists on Era want to reelect trump or something? You realize that most leftists are frustrated about the fact that democrats continually bend over backwards to meet the demands of the right and then continue to punch left along with them while doing so? You are aware you endorse and back the center-right party, yes?
But what is evidence enough for you? Would you let Biden touch your daughter any way he touches those females in those gifs or videos? Your mother?
Weaponizing sexual assault. Why would we expect less? The opponent certainly knows what's at stake.
Nothing can make this acceptable.
I've seen some of these before, but damn, especially seeing all these put together... it's SOOOOOOO bad. Idk how anyone can justify this behavior
it's pretty clear what i'm saying. Certain leftists spend as much time, if not MORE, attacking democrats than they do the right, Trump (how many accusations does he have again? meh).
You don't actually hold the moral high ground when your actions do nothing more than poison the well, to muddy the waters and give validity to attacks from the right or to influence people to maybe just not bother. If we don't win this election, we're seriously fucked, so perhaps we should direct our energy in a direction that might actually do SOME (any?) good on a large scale. But I guess acting as if the democrats are just as bad is worth losing the courts for a generation.
I expect this from the "both sides suck, im voting green" grifters on youtube, but it shouldnt even be a question about how unhelpful that crap is. So left that you don't even care if any progress gets made... got it.
If you really want to get the left back on board then rally against Biden and demand a better candidate. You won't be able to get EVERYONE back on board, because yeah, we're pretty pissed at how the establishment and the power structure dunked on Bernie and our movement, but you'd get my vote back and I'm sure many others. I'm not going to vote for a fucking rapist and I will keep reminding everyone he's a creep because he disgusts me.
If you don't like where we're at right now, then fucking do something about it.
If you don't like where we're at right now, then fucking do something about it.
Now it's 'all hands on deck'. Before that the left-wing were called the Nazi's swarming over France. Convenient. Instead of demanding obedience maybe the Democrats should stop trying to take a shit on the people at every turn if they want their votes.
It says more about you that you found this believable.
Thank you. Liberals expecting obedience when it's convenient for them yet have no recollection of how leftists were treated prior to that is some top-shelf shit.
Now leftists are 'grifters' trying to poison the well, haha
Are you sure about that? Can you elaborate what it says about me?
I'd love to know. We are talking about Biden, right?
But this article is well sourced and ostensibly true (you can click through to the FEC filings)?
Weird take in a thread about jumping to conclusions re: stories people want to be true.
A story as easily shredded as the one in the OP should obviously have been vetted before anyone shared it.