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Europa Universalis IV-ERA Multiplayer Sign Up - Everybody Wants To Rule The World
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Oh, sweet summer child :)
(that's more or less what I have in EUIV, tho)
Gotta remind you that the next time Napoleon tried it he got wrecked...
Also a 100% Historically Accurate Representation of Yesterday's Events.
Yes, I was carving my way into North America when I get a call to join Italy and Romania against Georgia (that means Persia). Meanwhile Khmer (and Mughals?) declared war to Persia as well.
I've sent 120 of my ships in the Black sea, 180 in the Persian Gulf (nice ride) and around 70k men shiptransported to support some sieges.
From the coast I could see stacks of 250k, 350k fighting each other.
There was so much shit down that the peace agreements went overtime.
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Persian Programme Part 15 - 1769 - 1791
OFFICIAL THEME
The Persian lands were whole and peaceful, a prosperous and united Empire. New sources of industrial might had been found, and the benefits of coal would undoubtedly power the manufactories of Persia to greater heights. Commerce flourished, and with the natural borders of Persia firmly established in the South, there was no interest in further conflict with the Egyptians. In the North, the Russians continued their collapse, and with the defenders of the Orthodox faith seemingly more interested in pushing the Russians over the cliff edge, I naturally moved to secure my own borders up there, taking two more coal producing provinces, as well as splitting the now rump Russian state into three different constituent parts to be dealt with later.
The years ticked down, and I settled into a nice peaceful routine, tweaking trade to drive my income up even higher. I even invested my considerable treasury into giving all the Persian people universities. It was around this time that Italian loose lips revealed an interest in Matrega. Surely not, I thought. A province so immaterial that a few thousand rebellious souls had sat there waiting for an Italian reprisal that never came, so got bored waiting and declared independence? That'd be absurd. But no matter, the war was soon declared after this leak of intel, bringing the Italian, Romanian and Dutch Empires into war with Persia.
Well OK. 3 to 1. The Italians were a military powerhouse, I knew that, but the Romanians and Dutch weren't quite up to Italian standards, so I focused on them and managed to stack wipe a number of Romanian armies. The weight of numbers was considerable however, and I was forced to retreat back over the Caucasus'. But I was still making them bleed for every inch.
It was here that the Egyptian Empire declared war on me too, bringing their Khmerian allies into the war. So now it was Persia alone against 5 other great powers. And despite some successful manoeuvring on my part, along with a few more stack wipes, there's not a whole lot you can do against the whole world. So bowing to the inevitable, I unconditionally surrendered to both coalitions and let the peace agreements lay where they would, while my newly crowned Shahanshah retreated to the island of Hormuz.
Provinces Gained: Bunch of Russian Land
Provinces Lost: Some I guess? We'll see if that lasts.
The Persian lands were whole and peaceful, a prosperous and united Empire. New sources of industrial might had been found, and the benefits of coal would undoubtedly power the manufactories of Persia to greater heights. Commerce flourished, and with the natural borders of Persia firmly established in the South, there was no interest in further conflict with the Egyptians. In the North, the Russians continued their collapse, and with the defenders of the Orthodox faith seemingly more interested in pushing the Russians over the cliff edge, I naturally moved to secure my own borders up there, taking two more coal producing provinces, as well as splitting the now rump Russian state into three different constituent parts to be dealt with later.
The years ticked down, and I settled into a nice peaceful routine, tweaking trade to drive my income up even higher. I even invested my considerable treasury into giving all the Persian people universities. It was around this time that Italian loose lips revealed an interest in Matrega. Surely not, I thought. A province so immaterial that a few thousand rebellious souls had sat there waiting for an Italian reprisal that never came, so got bored waiting and declared independence? That'd be absurd. But no matter, the war was soon declared after this leak of intel, bringing the Italian, Romanian and Dutch Empires into war with Persia.
Well OK. 3 to 1. The Italians were a military powerhouse, I knew that, but the Romanians and Dutch weren't quite up to Italian standards, so I focused on them and managed to stack wipe a number of Romanian armies. The weight of numbers was considerable however, and I was forced to retreat back over the Caucasus'. But I was still making them bleed for every inch.
It was here that the Egyptian Empire declared war on me too, bringing their Khmerian allies into the war. So now it was Persia alone against 5 other great powers. And despite some successful manoeuvring on my part, along with a few more stack wipes, there's not a whole lot you can do against the whole world. So bowing to the inevitable, I unconditionally surrendered to both coalitions and let the peace agreements lay where they would, while my newly crowned Shahanshah retreated to the island of Hormuz.
Provinces Gained: Bunch of Russian Land
Provinces Lost: Some I guess? We'll see if that lasts.
No "no fucking each others wives" rule? I also like to live dangerouslyCredit to a guy on the CK2 Paradox forum that lended me his house rules for Crusader Kings II.
I am torn about the "start as a count" rule that has been suggested. I'd say you can start as an "indipendent count" or as a "non-indipendent duke".
If we all start as counts, player agency becomes very, very low.
A poll has been created. You can pick as many of the options as you want for which game to play next, we'll do a runoff if needed.
I started last session with taking out Portugal in the Iberian peninsula and taking some more of Spain, while also helping the Netherlands against what was left of England. But then the pressing matter that was Matrega could no longer be ignored. The Persians had fed a province that by rights belonged to Italy to their vassal Georgia, and this could not be endured. We launched the entire Italian military might against the Persians to reclaim our lands, though the element of surprise was lost due to some diplomatic mishaps.
We were most impressed by Persian martial prowess. They took care of Romanian and Bohemian armies with ease, though of course they had made the mistake of splitting their forces so the entire Persian army could attack them one at a time. As a result we formed our northern armies into a single unit and took on the Persians head on. The morale of their troops was something to behold, but the well trained and equipped Italian armies still had the better of them. Almost every clash with the Persians ended up as complete killing fields, where each day thousands of Persians perished for hundreds of Italians.
Half of our invasion force was of course bogged down sieging Georgian mountain forts, which cost us tens of thousands of soldiers. Then Egypt decided to get in on the action and invaded Persia together with Khmer. The writing was on the wall at that point, and after a valiant struggle Persia surrendered unconditionally. We took Matrega, and all is right in the world.
Provinces gained: Matrega, some lands less important
We were most impressed by Persian martial prowess. They took care of Romanian and Bohemian armies with ease, though of course they had made the mistake of splitting their forces so the entire Persian army could attack them one at a time. As a result we formed our northern armies into a single unit and took on the Persians head on. The morale of their troops was something to behold, but the well trained and equipped Italian armies still had the better of them. Almost every clash with the Persians ended up as complete killing fields, where each day thousands of Persians perished for hundreds of Italians.
Half of our invasion force was of course bogged down sieging Georgian mountain forts, which cost us tens of thousands of soldiers. Then Egypt decided to get in on the action and invaded Persia together with Khmer. The writing was on the wall at that point, and after a valiant struggle Persia surrendered unconditionally. We took Matrega, and all is right in the world.
Provinces gained: Matrega, some lands less important
I have only played like three hours of CKII despite having all the expansions, so I imagine I would be pretty terrible at multiplayer, but I guess that's one way to learn.
Eh, I don't think there should be a bunch of codified rules for a CK2 MP game beyond no Meta-Character Switching. The game itself does enough to keep players in line.
I mean I suppose we could have it so everyone has to start with a Count (or Duke) level character. Your dynasty gets wiped out? Pick another Count out there.
I mean I suppose we could have it so everyone has to start with a Count (or Duke) level character. Your dynasty gets wiped out? Pick another Count out there.
That was all she wrote! Quite an explosive end to a very fun run!
My first goal for the session was to do what AI Geido could never do, win a war against England. So I fabricated on Hangzhou (or something) and got all the provinces in Asia. then I noticed Italy was also at war with them. And a plan emerged. If he peaced out, I could probably full annex England, and take all of their colonies in the process. And so it was done:
Providing some confusion to Kilwa, but at least we weren't at war (that's only when you vassalize someone). And it cemented my place as the number one great power!
Afterwards we got an envoy from Persia, to get ready for a showdown. Although the intel was a bit spotty, so we only sent a token force up to the frozen wastelands of Romania. We learned our lesson when we encountered a 350k stack, so all the forces The Mughals could muster were sent up. 600k angry Indians descended upon the heathen bastards. Our morale won out against their surprisingly high discipline (and honestly just having more meat and mercs to throw into the grinder). A couple of battles were close, but ended in our favor.
Looking at the end result, 1 in 2 of all Mughals sent up died because the harsh winters and deadly battles. But it was all worth it, because we got absolutely nothing in the peacedeal. Thanks Persia.
Also a special shoutout to the Mughalreich Africakorps:
They didn't do much, but I made a screenshot, so I might as well post it.
I'll also do a write-up about the entire run when we get some stats. Curious to see who ended up no1 in score. I think I'm number one on the great powers list still.
My first goal for the session was to do what AI Geido could never do, win a war against England. So I fabricated on Hangzhou (or something) and got all the provinces in Asia. then I noticed Italy was also at war with them. And a plan emerged. If he peaced out, I could probably full annex England, and take all of their colonies in the process. And so it was done:
Providing some confusion to Kilwa, but at least we weren't at war (that's only when you vassalize someone). And it cemented my place as the number one great power!
Afterwards we got an envoy from Persia, to get ready for a showdown. Although the intel was a bit spotty, so we only sent a token force up to the frozen wastelands of Romania. We learned our lesson when we encountered a 350k stack, so all the forces The Mughals could muster were sent up. 600k angry Indians descended upon the heathen bastards. Our morale won out against their surprisingly high discipline (and honestly just having more meat and mercs to throw into the grinder). A couple of battles were close, but ended in our favor.
Looking at the end result, 1 in 2 of all Mughals sent up died because the harsh winters and deadly battles. But it was all worth it, because we got absolutely nothing in the peacedeal. Thanks Persia.
Also a special shoutout to the Mughalreich Africakorps:
They didn't do much, but I made a screenshot, so I might as well post it.
I'll also do a write-up about the entire run when we get some stats. Curious to see who ended up no1 in score. I think I'm number one on the great powers list still.
Okay, so I got the save from Cloud, and wanted to do some comparisons on our stats!
Great powers: Mughals, Italy, Khmer, Romania, Egypt, Persia, Kilwa, Netherlands
Force Limit: Italy, Khmer, Persia, Mughals, Netherlands, Romania, Kilwa, Egypt
Morale: Persia, Mughals, Khmer, Netherlands, Kilwa, Romania, Egypt, Italy
Discipline: Romania, Khmer, Mughals, Egypt, Italy, Kilwa, Persia
Income: Khmer, Italy, Persia, Romania, Netherlands, Mughals, Kilwa, Egypt
Development: Italy, Mughals, Khmer, Romania, Egypt, Persia, Kilwa, Netherlands
Score: Khmer, Mughals, Italy, Egypt, Persia, Netherlands, Romania, Kilwa
Army losses: Mughals, Persia, Egypt, Kilwa, Italy, Romania, Netherlands, Khmer
Highest Province dev: Romania, Italy, Netherlands, Persia, Egypt, Kilwa, Khmer, Mughals
Quite happy with getting the most important tops places: Great Power and Army Losses. We bleed for that top spot! Also, I distinctly remember Lausebub playing coy with who had the highest score... Sneaky! My economy wasn't the greatest, bu I didn't really focus on that either.
When I first selected Sirhind to start with, I wanted to go Punjab, but I got sort of greedy and wanted to create the Mughals. Destating provinces, devving up and not doing it as efficiently as I would in SP did set me back a bit though. in hindsight, just focusing on India, and not getting involved with Timmy would have given me a better start. And after that disastrous war against Timmy, Bahmanis and Jaunpur I was definitely lagging. Pretty surprising that I ended up being in quite a good state in the end. Baby Ming was a stroke of luck though. Having Khmer declaring a war on Jaunpur just for my sake was great and agreeing to Kilwa taking Coromandel allowed the status quo in India to change enough for me to make a comeback.
All in all, I had fun. It really is a different game when you're occupying it with actual people who have their own goals and hold grudges/loyalties.
Looking forward to CK2, let's hope I don't mess it up to much!
Great powers: Mughals, Italy, Khmer, Romania, Egypt, Persia, Kilwa, Netherlands
Force Limit: Italy, Khmer, Persia, Mughals, Netherlands, Romania, Kilwa, Egypt
Morale: Persia, Mughals, Khmer, Netherlands, Kilwa, Romania, Egypt, Italy
Discipline: Romania, Khmer, Mughals, Egypt, Italy, Kilwa, Persia
Income: Khmer, Italy, Persia, Romania, Netherlands, Mughals, Kilwa, Egypt
Development: Italy, Mughals, Khmer, Romania, Egypt, Persia, Kilwa, Netherlands
Score: Khmer, Mughals, Italy, Egypt, Persia, Netherlands, Romania, Kilwa
Army losses: Mughals, Persia, Egypt, Kilwa, Italy, Romania, Netherlands, Khmer
Highest Province dev: Romania, Italy, Netherlands, Persia, Egypt, Kilwa, Khmer, Mughals
Quite happy with getting the most important tops places: Great Power and Army Losses. We bleed for that top spot! Also, I distinctly remember Lausebub playing coy with who had the highest score... Sneaky! My economy wasn't the greatest, bu I didn't really focus on that either.
When I first selected Sirhind to start with, I wanted to go Punjab, but I got sort of greedy and wanted to create the Mughals. Destating provinces, devving up and not doing it as efficiently as I would in SP did set me back a bit though. in hindsight, just focusing on India, and not getting involved with Timmy would have given me a better start. And after that disastrous war against Timmy, Bahmanis and Jaunpur I was definitely lagging. Pretty surprising that I ended up being in quite a good state in the end. Baby Ming was a stroke of luck though. Having Khmer declaring a war on Jaunpur just for my sake was great and agreeing to Kilwa taking Coromandel allowed the status quo in India to change enough for me to make a comeback.
All in all, I had fun. It really is a different game when you're occupying it with actual people who have their own goals and hold grudges/loyalties.
Looking forward to CK2, let's hope I don't mess it up to much!
Persian Programme Part 16 - 1791 - 1815
OFFICIAL THEME (Hah, it wasn't a Tears for Fears reference!)
So that was a great campaign, and I'm glad we started EU4 up again for sure. I think I won 'Biggest Name' at the end, which is the really important part of these games right?
This final session I had only one aim, take the Iraqi lands back and restore those beautiful Persian borders. But that would take a while, and I notice in the process of dealing with Russian separatists that Russia herself only had 160% warscore of land left. With 29 years left, that was more than enough time for two 100% warscore wars, so annexing them entirely was not only on the cards but the right and correct thing to do. So I blitzed them and took 100% warscore from them in a matter of months, (turns out having only one level 2 fort doesn't lead to a great defence), reducing them to a tiny pitiful state around the Kamchatka Peninsula.
It was then a case of waiting for the truce with Egypt to expire. Seeing that they were allied with both Romania and Italy did give me pause for thought for a moment or two, but after some coordination with my Mughal and Khmerian allies, I declared against Egypt for the last time.
Only Romania honoured the call to arms, however. Which left 3 human players against 1. Romania did very well considering, grouping up their army into a giant death stack, but numbers told in our favour eventually. Turns out parking 120k on the Romanian capital and storming it works well. A white peace was signed, something I hope will be remembered in future games!
Egypt was an easier nut to crack, the AI separating their armies, which allowed me to do the same, sieging down the numerous forts between my border and Cairo, before finally raising the Persian flag over the capital. In the peace treaty hammered out, we took back all the Iraqi lands stolen last time, and just for fun restored the Ottomans to Anatolia. (Also during all this I finished off the remnants of the once mighty Russian empire, ensuring I had the Biggest Name)
Also thanks to Geido for doing the stats, saved me a job after this! Here's the final map.
So that was a great campaign, and I'm glad we started EU4 up again for sure. I think I won 'Biggest Name' at the end, which is the really important part of these games right?
This final session I had only one aim, take the Iraqi lands back and restore those beautiful Persian borders. But that would take a while, and I notice in the process of dealing with Russian separatists that Russia herself only had 160% warscore of land left. With 29 years left, that was more than enough time for two 100% warscore wars, so annexing them entirely was not only on the cards but the right and correct thing to do. So I blitzed them and took 100% warscore from them in a matter of months, (turns out having only one level 2 fort doesn't lead to a great defence), reducing them to a tiny pitiful state around the Kamchatka Peninsula.
It was then a case of waiting for the truce with Egypt to expire. Seeing that they were allied with both Romania and Italy did give me pause for thought for a moment or two, but after some coordination with my Mughal and Khmerian allies, I declared against Egypt for the last time.
Only Romania honoured the call to arms, however. Which left 3 human players against 1. Romania did very well considering, grouping up their army into a giant death stack, but numbers told in our favour eventually. Turns out parking 120k on the Romanian capital and storming it works well. A white peace was signed, something I hope will be remembered in future games!
Egypt was an easier nut to crack, the AI separating their armies, which allowed me to do the same, sieging down the numerous forts between my border and Cairo, before finally raising the Persian flag over the capital. In the peace treaty hammered out, we took back all the Iraqi lands stolen last time, and just for fun restored the Ottomans to Anatolia. (Also during all this I finished off the remnants of the once mighty Russian empire, ensuring I had the Biggest Name)
Also thanks to Geido for doing the stats, saved me a job after this! Here's the final map.
Looking at the polls it would appear we are tied 9-9 between CK2 and EU4 for the next game. I'm happy with either, but would prefer EU4, though CK2 doesn't have a new DLC coming out in the future.
State below exactly which game you would prefer, CK2 or EU4. KiraFA37, CloudWolf, KingSnake, Geido, Javetus, Merkunt, Morfeo, John Dunbar, brokenswiftie, Jegriva, Radishhead, Lausebub, fanboi
EU4: Uzzy, Radishhead, Geido, Kingsnake, John Dunbar
CK2: Merkunt, Lausebub, Cloudwolf, Jegriva
State below exactly which game you would prefer, CK2 or EU4. KiraFA37, CloudWolf, KingSnake, Geido, Javetus, Merkunt, Morfeo, John Dunbar, brokenswiftie, Jegriva, Radishhead, Lausebub, fanboi
EU4: Uzzy, Radishhead, Geido, Kingsnake, John Dunbar
CK2: Merkunt, Lausebub, Cloudwolf, Jegriva
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EU4 (and hopefully my girlfriend won't break her ankle just before the first session this time so I can actually join in!)
If I have to choose between the two, it's going to be EU4.
Also, all the people that expressed their interest are welcome too right? So Pirate Bae Quiksaver Spirited
Also, all the people that expressed their interest are welcome too right? So Pirate Bae Quiksaver Spirited
While I am CK2 curious, my complete lack of experience with it still means I got to go for EUIV.
Happy about my 6th place in Total Score. I am the richest one, and I even paid the Panama Canal (that's 30k) in the last play session, too bad I couldn't see it completed.
CK2.
But I may, I'd suggest to disable Conclave for multiplayer. Otherwise it becomes very micromanaging.
I have ALL the DLCs (including the music and unit packs), so I could host.
And obviously disabling Devil worshippers, because they are OP as fuck.
CK2.
But I may, I'd suggest to disable Conclave for multiplayer. Otherwise it becomes very micromanaging.
I have ALL the DLCs (including the music and unit packs), so I could host.
And obviously disabling Devil worshippers, because they are OP as fuck.
Quoting myself, we can keep Conclave (it's a good anti-blob meta-mechanic), but at speed 3 it may become difficult.
And absolutely putting to "minimal" the Childhood Notifications.
If we pick officially CK2, I'll gladly write the Game Rules down.
I'll gladly pick last, too.
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Just came across this for people missing DLC.
All DLC except for Conquest of Paradise for like 17 euros.
All DLC except for Conquest of Paradise for like 17 euros.
Gosh, I paid 50 € (still a steal) this past Christmas on Steam for all of this. A Fantastic deal!
i bought the final dlcs during the last sale so not going to benefit me, but that is a great deal. hoping for something similar for hearts of iron iv down the road, don't own any dlc for that.
anyway, does the poll mean ck2 wins unless someone changes their vote?
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