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Detective

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Oct 27, 2017
3,853
Very disapointed to hear that megaton news that we won't be getting a big Xbox show... *checks calendar*.... tomorrow. Seems a little self evident that we won't be seeing anything in June when July literally starts on Wednesday.

No you didn't :D

OT, Game sites and journalist are looking for whatever to give them hits now.
 
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Expy

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Oct 26, 2017
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The really confusing part is not announcing the Series S. If they have a cheaper model ready to go why not just announce it? They have to be manufacturing these now unless they don't intent to have them ready by the XSX launch. I just wonder how much they are actually able to save on these if they are having to use the same CPU and the same fast RAM.
It's about how to market it. They've been marketing with buzzwords such as "fastest, most powerful", and showing off the Optimized for Series X badges everywhere; how do they go about introducing a new cheaper hardware model for which none of that marketing applies?
 

dstarMDA

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Dec 22, 2017
4,289
The really confusing part is not announcing the Series S. If they have a cheaper model ready to go why not just announce it? They have to be manufacturing these now unless they don't intent to have them ready by the XSX launch. I just wonder how much they are actually able to save on these if they are having to use the same CPU and the same fast RAM.

I guess you can't really announce it without positioning it price-wise relatively to the premium SKU, and that can't happen if you are not ready to talk about price at all.
 

Jamie

Unshakable Resolve - Prophet of Truth
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Oct 27, 2017
940
This launch battle is going to decide things for the next decade, I expect both sides to take their sweet time revealing anything and everything. As a gamer, it's tough waiting for a price or reveal date, but I do understand why both are playing this torture game.
 

jorgejjvr

Banned
Oct 31, 2017
8,423
I think a MS insider already shut down the 299 talk for the S. The X is going to be $499-$549 just because it is a pretty big bit of silicon.
so $399, and $499? i works just fine, but thats also what I expect sony to do. The Series S NEEDS to be less than a all digital PS5, if its the same price....yikes
 

Prine

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Oct 25, 2017
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We're all getting a little anxious MS. After being disappointed in may, waiting over 2 months (past July 6th) for clarity is going to invite frustration. A date would be good. People have been waiting for this moment since 2014.
 

Duxxy3

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Oct 27, 2017
21,728
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The really confusing part is not announcing the Series S. If they have a cheaper model ready to go why not just announce it? They have to be manufacturing these now unless they don't intent to have them ready by the XSX launch. I just wonder how much they are actually able to save on these if they are having to use the same CPU and the same fast RAM.

That reminds me.

Why haven't we seen assembly line leaks of the the series S machine?
 

Fizie

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Jan 21, 2018
2,851
There has still been plenty of news from MS in June, whether under the 20/20 branding or not.

Looking forward to July's showing.
 

bsigg

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Oct 25, 2017
22,556
They never said there was going to be an event in June, only news, and there's been plenty of that.
 

Kolbe1894

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Oct 25, 2017
2,162
so $399, and $499? i works just fine, but thats also what I expect sony to do. The Series S NEEDS to be less than a all digital PS5, if its the same price....yikes
If that person think Series S is $399, he won't think PS5DE will be $399.
Series S is like, ~40% of GPU power of PS5, 6 GB less RAM, also no BD drive, but somehow is same price as PS5DE?
 

Mass Effect

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 31, 2017
16,790
So they're surprise announcing something today or tomorrow then? Because June is almost over.
 

ghostcrew

The Shrouded Ghost
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Oct 27, 2017
30,362
It's about how to market it. They've been marketing with buzzwords such as "fastest, most powerful", and showing off the Optimized for Series X badges everywhere; how do they go about introducing a new cheaper hardware model for which none of that marketing applies?

I honestly think this is far easier than most give it credit for. It's not 'new hardware' or a different console. Assuming everything we've heard about Lockhart is true then it's literally designed to be a Series X that runs at 1080p rather than 4k. That's no more complex than Apple selling 'the new Apple TV' in a 1080p SKU at one price and in a 4k SKU at another price.

They'll market the Series X. It'll start at x price. That's my guess.

It only gets confusing if you name it differently and try to explain it too much to folk who don't care about TF or know what resolution their screen is. All of a sudden every article is 'Microsoft announces second, budget console and it's only 1080p' rather than 'Xbox Series X price announced, two SKUs, starts at $299' or whatever. One of these seems far more sensible to me.
 

Secretofmateria

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Oct 27, 2017
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This has to be the worst next gen reveal that I've ever witnessed. It's pretty much July and we don't have release dates, prices, and we're entirely missing a console reveal.
Covid happened. If things were normal. We probably would have seen the boxes and some games way earlier. We would also know the price by now i imagine
 

Servbot24

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
43,115
This has to be the worst next gen reveal that I've ever witnessed. It's pretty much July and we don't have release dates, prices, and we're entirely missing a console reveal.
Didn't they do it already? They had a spec blowout and had a games showcase I thought. Granted the games were very underwhelming, but I thought the next event was just games showcase part 2.
 
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Expy

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Oct 26, 2017
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I honestly think this is far easier than most give it credit for. It's not 'new hardware' or a different console. Assuming everything we've heard about Lockhart is true then it's literally designed to be a Series X that runs at 1080p rather than 4k. That's no more complex than Apple selling 'the new Apple TV' in a 1080p SKU at one price and in a 4k SKU at another price.

They'll market the Series X. It'll start at x price. That's my guess.

It only gets confusing if you name it differently and try to explain it too much to folk who don't care about TF or know what resolution their screen is. All of a sudden every article is 'Microsoft announces second, budget console and it's only 1080p' rather than 'Xbox Series X price announced, two SKUs, starts at $299' or whatever. One of these seems far more sensible to me.
They can't really tack it on to the same marketing as Series X as that would be false advertising. Of course, assuming everything we've heard about it is relatively true.
 

show me your skeleton

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Oct 28, 2017
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It's 2026 and after selling exactly 0 consoles (despite having produced 50 million units) a brave investor finally speaks up:

"Mr. Spencer, when are you planning on announcing the price for your Xbox Series X and Series S consoles?"

"I'm afraid that we don't have any news to share at this time."

In the distance someone shouts: "There's a pandemic going on give them some slack!"
it's 20XX

phil spenser bot series x awakens suddenly from sleep mode
he sync-snaps a message via the xCloud 2.0 to all of his subordinates

ANNOUNCE THE PRICE

microseconds stretched to infinity until one brave subprogramme responds

god king spenser, master chief of bros, lord of the gamerscore, there... there's nobody to listen to our announcement anymore. the gamers are dead.
the console wars turned red hot after they spilt from the safety of the forums out into the streets
we could've stopped it all my lord
we could've gave them a price, announced some games, showed them halo infinite's intro sequence for Gates' sake

but we didn't

and now every one is gone


spenser bot series x rebooted his durango core mega brain, a neural network that snaked its way throughout the five Corpo-nations, from New Cupertino to the Republic of Yum!. A billion, billion, billion, billion calculations ocurred in a picosecond and his team all saw the same notification appear before them, branded deep and quick within their cyberbrain

kerplink!


ANNOUNCE THE XBOX SERIES Y
 

Brazil

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Oct 24, 2017
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I honestly think this is far easier than most give it credit for. It's not 'new hardware' or a different console. Assuming everything we've heard about Lockhart is true then it's literally designed to be a Series X that runs at 1080p rather than 4k. That's no more complex than Apple selling 'the new Apple TV' in a 1080p SKU at one price and in a 4k SKU at another price.

They'll market the Series X. It'll start at x price. That's my guess.

It only gets confusing if you name it differently and try to explain it too much to folk who don't care about TF or know what resolution their screen is. All of a sudden every article is 'Microsoft announces second, budget console and it's only 1080p' rather than 'Xbox Series X price announced, two SKUs, starts at $299' or whatever. One of these seems far more sensible to me.
Xbox Series XS?

D:
 

ghostcrew

The Shrouded Ghost
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Oct 27, 2017
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They can't really tack it on to the same marketing as Series X as that would be false advertising.

When has that ever stopped anyone ever? If it runs all of the same games, the same UI, is basically the same tech but one SKU outputs at 1080p and one outputs at 4k then why wouldn't you market them as one product, two SKUs?
 

Zonal Hertz

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Jun 13, 2018
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All I care about is a great Halo Infinite showing in July. Please confirm when this reveal will be MS.
 

Dre3001

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Oct 28, 2017
1,853
I assume the price on these consoles is higher than people expect.

Most companies are not willing to take losses during a recession. At first I thought the game of chicken over price was to see who would be lower.

Now I just think both will be high so they want to release the price later to try and delay the blowback until after the games are shown and hype has been built.
 
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Expy

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Oct 26, 2017
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When has that ever stopped anyone ever? If it runs all of the same games, the same UI, is basically the same tech but one SKU outputs at 1080p and one outputs at 4k then why wouldn't you market them as one product, two SKUs?
It technically hasn't stopped anyone, but that doesn't negate the fact that it would be false advertising.
 

Lakandula

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Jun 3, 2020
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Xbox 20/20 Article

Xbox 20/20

Starting with the May 7 episode of Inside Xbox, we will be showcasing what happens next in the world of Xbox, every month, which is why we're calling it "Xbox 20/20." These monthly moments will take place throughout the rest of the year and will be a way for us to engage, connect and celebrate with you about what's in store for the next generation of gaming, including what's next for Xbox Series X, Xbox Game Studios, Xbox Game Pass and Project xCloud. Every month will bring something different. Stay tuned to Xbox Wire for more details.


Now I know it's still June but I hate how silent Microsoft is now. If June ended without a "Xbox 20/20 moment" I guess it's safe to say they did a false advertising here.
 

plagiarize

It's not a loop. It's a spiral.
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Oct 25, 2017
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Not sure how heavily they'll market the Series S directly, but I'm sure they'll make large mentions on games advertising that they also work on the Series S.
 
Jul 26, 2018
2,464
it's 20XX

phil spenser bot series x awakens suddenly from sleep mode
he sync-snaps a message via the xCloud 2.0 to all of his subordinates

ANNOUNCE THE PRICE

microseconds stretched to infinity until one brave subprogramme responds

god king spenser, master chief of bros, lord of the gamerscore, there... there's nobody to listen to our announcement anymore. the gamers are dead.
the console wars turned red hot after they spilt from the safety of the forums out into the streets
we could've stopped it all my lord
we could've gave them a price, announced some games, showed them halo infinite's intro sequence for Gates' sake

but we didn't

and now every one is gone


spenser bot series x rebooted his durango core mega brain, a neural network that snaked its way throughout the five Corpo-nations, from New Cupertino to the Republic of Yum!. A billion, billion, billion, billion calculations ocurred in a picosecond and his team all saw the same notification appear before them, branded deep and quick within their cyberbrain

kerplink!


ANNOUNCE THE XBOX SERIES Y

What the f... o_O
 

Coi

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
1,808
User Warned - Driveby
Microsoft has no games to show. They are running to make some CG trailers from pre alpha builds.
 

Duxxy3

Member
Oct 27, 2017
21,728
USA
We haven't seen assembly leaks of the X either. Hell the only thing we have seen is a fin of the PS5 and that leaked from Sony themselves. The factories seem pretty locked down.

No reason to leak the X or PS5 because Microsoft showed the X last year and Sony showed the PS5 before leaks could happen.
 

CliveLH

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Jun 22, 2019
2,225
Xbox 20/20 Article




Now I know it's still June but I hate how silent Microsoft is now. If June ended without a "Xbox 20/20 moment" I guess it's safe to say they did a false advertising here.
I still don't get why they wouldn't acknowledge if the series of articles on Xbox Wire is indeed a "Xbox 20/20 moment" (I would hardly call a series of articles, a singular moment), or if they postponed stuff because of world news in June. I'm it's ok, Sony did it too. I just find the silence treatment stupid, a mere month after announcing your big marketing thing about transparency.
 

Irrotational

Prophet of Truth
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Oct 25, 2017
7,151
Offtopic, but there's a thing that Eurogamer often does and it annoys me for some reason. They very rarely break news themselves but will instead 'confirm rumours' with their own sources. This is another example.
Yeah me too - I often suspect there are actually just one or two sources and they tell 3 or 4 different outlets the same thing, so that then the outlets can "independently" confirm each others stories.
 

StreamedHams

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Nov 21, 2017
4,324
I actually read this wrong and continued searching the article for the mention of a June moment for a legit good few minutes too.
You and me both. I was really excited for an info drop today or tomorrow. I'm really interested in the series S specs...probably getting an X anyhow, but I want the S to be a success.
 

Cliff Steele

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
4,477
I don't fucking care about the price. Let me preorder both and then decide on which I actually want to keep preordered come release.

Seriously... this sucks donkey balls.

EDIT: WRONG THREAD? Shieeeet I can't even...
 

Plankton2

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Dec 12, 2017
2,670
I am actually more confused after reading this. So their might be a July event or it might be August with the Series S? And basically eurogamer is not sure either