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Eurogamer: If you're getting the Xbox One X version of Watch Dogs: Legion, be warned - the campaign is broken at launch
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This is like some Kojima shit going wrong lmao.
At least MGS2 asked us to turn our consoles off. It never did that for us 👀
At least MGS2 asked us to turn our consoles off. It never did that for us 👀
Jeff said he's playing the PC version on the Bombcast. He's been having trouble getting the game to run well on his machine (especially with ray tracing on.)
I have not heard him mention anything about Series X performance.
edit: Sorry, misread that. You said One X.
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Also makes me legit worried about the per-game patches Sony is planning to adjust fan speed. There's a lot that can go wrong there.
Sony to optimise the PS5 fan with online updates
Sony will optimise the PlayStation 5's internal fan with online updates, it's said.In an interview with 4Gamer.net (wit…
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Or maybe Xbox is doing the same thing, unadvertised, and just botched the fan speed patch?
EDIT: Brand confusion FTW...
That's crazy to think that, with all the talk of the advanced cooling of the XSX, that a game can push it over its limits with a simple bug. I would have hoped the console would have been smarter than that to adjust at the system level to any CPU/GPU utilization.
Also makes me legit worried about the per-game patches Sony is planning to adjust fan speed. There's a lot that can go wrong there.
Sony to optimise the PS5 fan with online updates
Sony will optimise the PlayStation 5's internal fan with online updates, it's said.In an interview with 4Gamer.net (wit…
Or maybe Xbox is doing the same thing, unadvertised, and just botched the fan speed patch?
This was the xbox one X, not Series X.
honestly i'm not 100% sure, i think the article is unclear. i don't think sony or microsoft allow devs to crash games, undertale had to do something around that didn't it?
No issues with the original one looking online, must be something in the coding for one x enhancements causing it.
My guess is that this writer may (?) not know the full implications of saying the game "bricked" the console.
Edit: Ah, read further. The system shut down due to overheating, and wouldn't start up until it had cooled down. Thankfully not "bricked."
Seems crazy to me that six to eight hours in there's a critical bug like this and neither company's testing caught it.
Ubisoft has been developing games for the XB1 for seven years and should have QA measures to detect stuff like this.
it's not 100%, other reviewers have said they didn't encounter the issue.
To be fair, the console wouldn't turn back on for several hours after the shutdown occurred so the initial reaction was quite fair.
They clarified the situation after the console started again.
Pretty wild that something like this slips past QA. You'd think they'd at least try to play through the game on every console / PC the game comes out on.
Furmark used to cause GPUs to overheat on PC, before they decided to throttle speeds when you run software like that. Given the right code, I wouldn't be surprised if you could do the same to a console.
I'd expect the clocks to be throttling down once it reaches a certain temperature and fan speed combination, like how it does on the PC.
This happened a lot in the past actually. Google Battlefront 2 Xbox Overheat or Fallout 76 Xbox Overheat.
Reminds me of the article the other week where Sony said they could look at the game data passing through the system and speed up/slow down the fan as necessary.
Could be a way of avoiding this kind of thing - if indeed it is the CPU being boosted through a particular section - until the developers can get a patch out.
Could be a way of avoiding this kind of thing - if indeed it is the CPU being boosted through a particular section - until the developers can get a patch out.
I think that's exactly this. If the game runs some kind of furmak code and the cooling is not designed for it.
So...
1) It doesn't brick your console, just knocks it out of commission for a bit.
2) It isn't something that happens 100% of the time.
3) It's likely on the OS side, not due to a bug with the game itself.
There's a lot of dangerous misinformation here that needs to be updated with this clarification.
1) It doesn't brick your console, just knocks it out of commission for a bit.
2) It isn't something that happens 100% of the time.
3) It's likely on the OS side, not due to a bug with the game itself.
There's a lot of dangerous misinformation here that needs to be updated with this clarification.
1) that's bricking, even if temporary. And if it's getting so hot that it takes hours to cool down enough to work, that's incredibly bad, that's damage-the-console level overheating.
2) there was one person who said they didn't run into it
3) where did you read this? The person in this thread was just saying that the system should t allow things like this to happen, not that it was the system OS that caused it
Also worth noting that when reviewers are reviewing games it's not uncommon to not have access to the patches that are going to be there for the day 1 launch.
In some ways, this is why it's getting harder and harder to be able to make any conclusions about this aspect of a game that is reviewed, as it is reviewed as is and games are no longer static products.
In some ways, this is why it's getting harder and harder to be able to make any conclusions about this aspect of a game that is reviewed, as it is reviewed as is and games are no longer static products.
Its not like every person on earth understands the right terminology for this kind of situation.
I lived long enough to see people more preoccupied in defend glitches/bugs on videogames than anything else
"The issue occurs around 6-8 hours into the main campaign (during a mission called - I kid you not - 404) upon which players are told their console is to shut down, as it's designed to, because of overheating - which it duly does. It's an issue we've anecdotally heard has happened to multiple reviewers of the game on Xbox One X - Ubisoft's recommended platform for reviewers."
Ubisoft needs to go all in on this bug, call it a feature. It's like better than fiction. Imagine if PsychoMantis shut down your console for overheating.
"Game over, the bad guys have won."
Ubisoft needs to go all in on this bug, call it a feature. It's like better than fiction. Imagine if PsychoMantis shut down your console for overheating.
"Game over, the bad guys have won."
I kinda agree... To an extent
It's actually fairly easy to accidentally create a situation that just explodes power draw on a GPU, it's just usually this kind of thing is not something you'd do in an actual game because it's usually also highly inefficient and not doing useful work - so here it's happening presumably due to a bug in the game.
E.g. if you accidentally spawn a million very simple particles converting a portion of the screen small enough to fit in cache you can hit all sorts of theoretical limits you'd never usually even get close to. I've seen it happen. Power draw goes crazy and fan instantly ramps to 100%.
Console hardware is designed to run with known tolerances to typical game content and environmental conditions.
The difference here is that the xbox isn't doing something smart like having an emergency downclock, it's just shutting down.
FWIW This is basically what the PS5 dynamic frequency thing is about - just with a bit more aggressive limits. For these odd-ball cases that spike power draw allow a dynamic, breif downclock (e.g. when drawing a menu with a tonne of simple layered translucency, which is oddly enough often one of the highest points of power draw in many games).
