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[EU February Chart] Elden Ring is the biggest new IP launch since The Division in 2016; PC accounts for 44% of total sales.

Mocha Joe

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Musubi said:
I dunno I tend to think of Playstation as the lead version of FROM games. Mostly because some of thier titles are exclusive to Playstation like Demon's Souls and Bloodborne but also I guess this release was way more mainstream than some of thier past ones.
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I mean yeah, you personally can feel that way and that's fine. Everyone has a platform preference.

Lead platform is a bit loaded, could mean the best "performing game" (game performance) which yeah, Playstation is probably most consistent. Could also mean development wise was started on but I'm not sure anyone knows the answer to this but From. But sales wise, that's not really the case. As someone pointed out earlier in the thread, DS3 sold 10 million copies and ~60% of it were on PC.
 
gifyku

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It really highlights the work Xbox needs to do in the rest of Europe. They do reasonably well in UK, but when PC is 44%, Playstation is 40% and Xbox is 16% that is a huge huge difference. Looking at Dying Light 2 it was even worst, Playstation sold 72%, which must be a typo? In any case, there is so much talk about them trying to push into Japan, but continental Europe is just as big and important a fight.
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or the more simple answer is that (they wont publicize it) the US is the biggest market, Asia, especially developing markets like South Asia, are a big opportunity and the EU is a more mature market that doesnt actually offer much growth potential so their dollar is better invested elsewhere
 
Westbahnhof

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Menome said:
My fiancée can't fight the Tree Sentinel because of how much the game staggers in that one area, whereas it's smooth for me on console.
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On the lowest settings, I assume?
It's wild how different PCs are, because it works fine for me, and I am BELOW minimum specs for both GPU and CPU.
(can't recall my CPU right now, but I'm running a 970)
Not that that means it's well optimized or excuses anything, just saying, super weird
 

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Elden Ring is interesting as a new IP, because in some sense of the idea it's not really a new IP. It's so clearly a souls game -- everything about the systems from front to back is the same as souls, and everyone knows it. It's just not linked within the text of the works ("canon").

In some sense, the core gameplay functions are really well worn IP, while of course the story and setting are a new IP. From has kind of done something new with moving into new IP here, in a way that maybe makes the idea of IP a little more complex (though to be fair this is the third time they have done this kind of move, between DeS, DS, BB, and now ER). It all hinges on their really familiar proprietary engine and it's systems which is another aspect of IP.
 
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StreamedHams

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Calling Elden Ring a new IP is kinda disingenuous.

Yeah, yeah, I know. You don't even need to @ me, but you know I'm right.
 
Cameron122

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the division, now thats a game I liked mechanically but its setting and plot kinda made me feel weird

Glad From is having this big success!!
 
Sparks

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Not sure how its a New IP. The Division is clearly a NEW IP, this is as new as an IP as Breath of the Wild is a NEW IP. (*EDIT* sorry yea I see it has been said way too much in here haha)

But it definitely hit that perfect Zeitgeist balance, uses the successful FOMO attack.
 
Fisty

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I'm wondering how this breaks down on PS4/PS5 because you literally can't buy one without the other on PSN
 
bob1001

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Musubi said:
I dunno I tend to think of Playstation as the lead version of FROM games. Mostly because some of thier titles are exclusive to Playstation like Demon's Souls and Bloodborne but also I guess this release was way more mainstream than some of thier past ones.
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Playstation is 100% the lead version as far as FromSoft is concerned, but I think it's safe to say that the biggest chunk of their audience is on PC.

7thFloor said:
It honestly hasn't been bad at all for me but I guess I just lucked out spec-wise (1080 and an i7-8700)
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It hasn't been too bad for me either, I think it's very CPU heavy since I have a worse GPU than you (1060) but my CPU is roughly equivalent (12400F)
 
SirKai

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Sparks said:
Not sure how its a New IP. The Division is clearly a NEW IP, this is as new as an IP as Breath of the Wild is a NEW IP. (*EDIT* sorry yea I see it has been said way too much in here haha)

But it definitely hit that perfect Zeitgeist balance, uses the successful FOMO attack.
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Bruh, The Division is a fucking TOM CLANCY game lmao. It's in the title and has the same TC branding/logo as at least ten other Ubisoft games from the past decade. How is that MORE of a new IP than Elden Ring?
 
DarthBuzzard

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Sparks said:
Not sure how its a New IP. The Division is clearly a NEW IP, this is as new as an IP as Breath of the Wild is a NEW IP. (*EDIT* sorry yea I see it has been said way too much in here haha)

But it definitely hit that perfect Zeitgeist balance, uses the successful FOMO attack.
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Completely separate lore, world, characters. Obviously some references and throwbacks, but it is set in a new universe, very clearly so.
 
BlueStarEXSF

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Bloodborne would probably sell better on PC than any other ports Sony could make. It's crazy it wasnt the first thing they ported.
 
Sparks

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SirKai said:
Bruh, The Division is a fucking TOM CLANCY game lmao. It's in the title and has the same TC branding/logo as at least ten other Ubisoft games from the past decade. How is that MORE of a new IP than Elden Ring?
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Because people literally say "Previous Souls Games" and "rank your favorite souls weapon/boss" etc. etc. I would never consider: Dark Souls, Demon Souls, Blood Borne, Sekiro, Elden Ring to all be completely new IP's. But yea you are probably right, it is technically a new IP since it's not the same names. But it just feels wrong and using that descriptor in Gaming has different connotations.

It's not trying to take anything from it.

Edit: But now that you say that, I would then remove The Division from the NEW IP list as well, since it's Tom Clancy. But then would any game/movie made by an established director be considered to exist amongst their IP? There is a weird distinction there.
 
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BlueStarEXSF said:
Bloodborne would probably sell better on PC than any other ports Sony could make. It's crazy it wasnt the first thing they ported.
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Maybe when the Demons Souls Remake sells several million copies on PC, Sony will get interested.

But who knows? They haven't even been inspired to tidy up the console version as of yet.
 
John Harker

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It's dark souls 4 with a smart marketing strategy.

Same base game wrapped in:
Pedigree + George Martin + open world

It's very well positioned.
It's the familiar, with a shiny new hat.

The formula was ready to pop and they dressed it appropriately… even the box art and posing and aesthetic is perfectly poised to make dark souls players feel respected and desired, with the big budget, partnerships, fresh name making it feel accessible without the burden of a # attached

And they stuck the landing hard on the game design itself. Dark Souls but "open world" talking points with the same core gameplay but more "accessible features" and it's not surprised it's a monster seller.

We talk about this game every day in meetings and I look forward to seeing the impact on other game designs in 3-4 years
 

Salamandra

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Hello guys!
From the article I'm noticing that Horizon (PS4+PS5) outsold Pokemon Arceus and that Pokemon Arceus oversold PC Elden Ring (44% of total ER sales).. Right?

Soo would it be correct to say that Horizon sales (in Europe) are

Horizon sales >= 0.44 * Elden Ring sales
or
Elden Ring sold at most ~ 2.3 times Horizon
?

I'm just trying to figure out some actual sales figures for Elden Ring because I've seen a lot of weird data from gamesindustry.biz going around recently and I'd like to get somnething... concrete 😁.
 
Poimandres

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slothrop said:
Elden Ring is interesting as a new IP, because in some sense of the idea it's not really a new IP. It's so clearly a souls game -- everything about the systems from front to back is the same as souls, and everyone knows it. It's just not linked within the text of the works ("canon").

In some sense, the core gameplay functions are really well worn IP, while of course the story and setting are a new IP. From has kind of done something new with moving into new IP here, in a way that maybe makes the idea of IP a little more complex (though to be fair this is the third time they have done this kind of move, between DeS, DS, BB, and now ER). It all hinges on their really familiar proprietary engine and it's systems which is another aspect of IP.
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You are right, it is interesting. They wholesale lift content from the Souls games (enemies, sound effects etc) and don't spend any effort dressing this up as something different. But at the same time, the world, new traversal options and volume of unique content is beyond a standard sequel.

Most devs aren't able to just... Straight up reuse content from a different IP. I guess this is only possible because Bamco published the Souls games as well?
 
Slick Butter

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StreamedHams said:
Genuine question. Are the Dark Souls games stories intrinsically connected? Like does anything harken back from DS3 to DS1? I actually don't know.
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Yes. The Dark Souls games all take place in the same universe, and share some characters you either meet or read about in each game. This is muddied a little though because I believe Dark Souls was created without sequels in mind, and also Dark Souls 2 suffered some development issues and feels like its world could have been made entirely separate from Dark Souls. Still there is a lot more shared directly between them compared to the other 3 FROM Souls-type games.

However, Demon's Souls, Bloodborne, and Elden Ring each take place in their own distinct worlds.
 
Keyouta

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I hope more work is out into getting the PC version running well with this and future titles. It runs pretty badly on my system, although it is a little older (i5 6600k and 980ti).
 

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From Software moved in and became a giant in the PC space.

Making PC a Tier 1 platform really paid off for them.
 
Poimandres

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devSin said:
From Software moved in and became a giant in the PC space.

Making PC a Tier 1 platform really paid off for them.
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Dark, hard, action RPGs are super welcome on PC.

In some ways the world design etc in Elden Ring remind me more of a euro jank sort of style than what would usually come of Japan or Western devs.
 
DaciaJC

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It's such a blessing that Sony completely mishandled their end of Demon's Souls, leading to From developing a spiritual successor for the multiplatform space. Ten years later and PC is now by far their strongest platform. Awesome to see.
 
CountAntonio

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I'm still in the "Dark Souls for PC" Steam community group that was one of the big pushes for the original. To see how far we have gone just makes me so happy to think From has a found a home on PC.
 
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