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EU approves Zenimax acquisition by Microsoft
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No guarantee they have even touched a playstation version yet, especialy if it slips out of 2021.
Either way that is not a deal breaker for MS if their strategy is to have the games exclusive, they are no strangers to burning money for years to make a lot more later and they are arguably doing that right now in gaming.
It is not necessarily EEE but it isnt what a lot of people consider playing fair either.
Their intentions is obvious, you're right that they are planning to burn money to dominate the subscription and cloud market. No other company except Amazon has that financial power.
But the EA Play and rumoured Ubisoft+ integration to GPU is interesting. Initially, Microsoft will be paying a lot for these services to appear on Game Pass, but when Game Pass gains many subscribers, then the balance of power shifts towards Microsoft, especially considering if EA Play and Ubisoft+ left Game Pass, then it will be a disaster to their subscriber numbers. (Half of EA Play's subscriber base is from Game Pass Ultimate)
Wow this is funky. I've heard this stated about this before, but I can't wrap my head around how it is possible for digital storefronts and publishers to only have a finite stock of keys. I'm guessing it would take something like them remastering the game, like EA is with Mass Effect, essentially releasing a new product to make it available again? I dunno anything about program engineering, but what if the 06' game somehow offered a vulnerability to users windows security? Could MS bring out a patch if they wanted to, hypothetically?
Appreciate the insight if you have any.
Seperately, It's kinda too bad there are two completely different and equally brilliant separate uses of the IP. I feel like any company would only focus on growing it from Arkane's version, which makes sense.
Except it does, in fact the very CD key system is used for the master server (a multiplayer server will boot you if your key fails authentication on the master, a system that actually originated in Quake3 in an early form) as well as the game itself in which it presents a key auth if your key is missing. It's a similar system to that of Doom3s, though a different server/service.
I just don't think you're going t to get that kind of definitive statement.
satya giving phil black checks from MS's checkbook2017 vs 2021
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There you have it.
From MS' unofficial spokesperson, too.
From MS' unofficial spokesperson, too.
I'm not saying the multiplayer functionality wasn't and isn't intrinsically linked to CD keys but rather that Bethesda's ability to generate additional ones isn't tethered to a now-defunct company.
There's a sort of friction on these things, the longer you leave something the harder it is to reopen the code. I imagine they still have the code though, it'd just take someone brave enough to pitch doing the job.
I'd certainly like to see it happen, Prey06 was fantastic.
CD Keys of that style are asynchronous. You need the private key to generate the public keys, and from what it seems, it's that private key that was lost when they moved the game. Triton's demise seemed to make an absolute mess of everything.
We will continue to see this kind of statement going forward though. I don't see them definitively saying outright now that Bethesda games are going to be exclusives. There's nothing new here unfortunately.
I couldn't remember if Sony ever allowed it so everyone could play together.
Anyway, my thought was Microsoft might expand that way to get people signed up.
Yes for cross-play I think you need to log in to XBL/MS account on PlayStation. You don't need it to play the game though.
I find it rather difficult to believe 2K would be so careless, but even assuming that to be accurate, there's absolutely nothing preventing Bethesda from using a cracked executable (which, most famously, is what R* did when it released Max Payne on Steam) and updating the store page to say multiplayer is no longer functional. Existing owners wouldn't need to be affected, either, as Bethesda could create a new data depot and a new store/key licence.
Edit: Also, even assuming Prey06 is indeed a lost cause, there's still the matter of Quake Wars and Wolf09, the former of which was confirmed to be delisted due to publishing rights changing hands per Activision Support and the latter of which was actually bundled with a Polish PC gaming magazine a few years after its delisting (not the Steam version, however).
Edit edit: To be clear, I don't mean to rule out the possibility your understanding of the situation is correct, but surely you can agree that Bethesda willingly sitting on two games, re-releasing another only after it was "scrubbed", and Hines refusing to actually delineate the supposed "technical issues" coalesce into a certain picture.
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This is a singular quote from late last year. We've had quotes from Spencer that sounded very different. Wait and see. People like him or Jez just want some attention when they can still be part of the conversation.
I wish they would add one more qualifier to the above two formulas:
1. First and best on Xbox
2. Case by case basis
3. Mandatory cross play
1. First and best on Xbox
2. Case by case basis
3. Mandatory cross play
My current plan is as follows:
- If they announce that games won't be exclusive, then I'll point to that interview with the dude who said "first or better or best" just like Tom is here.
- If they announce everything is going to be exclusive then I'll point to the Phil interview where he said "no" to the idea of playstation being required to make the math work
- If they don't announce anything concrete or stick to "case by case basis " talk, then I'll point to the interviews that said "we will evaluate on a case by case basis".
They're not going to announce or put a press release about exclusivity like let's get the whole internet riled up against us.
They'll hold their games event / conference whenever and it'll have the general tag at the start all of these games are exclusive to Xbox / PC and the Bethesda games will be part of that.
They'll hold their games event / conference whenever and it'll have the general tag at the start all of these games are exclusive to Xbox / PC and the Bethesda games will be part of that.
Nah, that's not what this is about.
He's deeply connected with MS and seems to prepair people for the inevitable disappointment of some... Xbox fans.
Taking Tom Warren's personal speculation as fact is also not healthy instead of waiting for official confirmation.
Would be stupid for Xbox fans to be disappointed. Xbox will for sure get Bethesda games, other platforms not so sure.
Bethesdas games will not get bad/worse just because they are on other platforms as well.
MS can go the traditional route and make all first party games exclusive or they can release some games on other platforms in a way to entice them to get Gamepass somehow.
But the strongest incentive to get Gamepass/Xbox hardware is to lock Bethesdas games as exclusive to the MS controlled platforms.
In a follow-up tweet he states himself this is what he thinks (not knows) and that he is eager to hear Microsoft's plans. It's just his opinion.
Arkane Austin is working on a new IP.
Besides they need to make a AAA Shadowrun game before they return to Prey or Dishonored as well. 👍
We'll see. I think people should be prepared for most games being multi.
And if you're not a console warrior you should be happy.
He literally said "probably". Speculation is exactly what this is. 😂
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Waiting for the giant Xbox Wire post.
Hahaha, amazing. Microsoft couldn't be more obtuse about the situation. Smart guys.
He won't exactly say "I know this for a fact", when MS hasn't said anything about it publicly, would he?
This is no argument. Steam is competing platform to Xbox/GamePass for PC. Windows is not a gaming platform, but OS.
The only difference between Steam and Switch/PS is that there is no need of porting.
Keep in mind that it always ultimately makes more sense to sell a game than not, and they are still selling it on xbox and approved it for distribution for back compat. If they wanted to forget the game existed, ignoring BC would have been the opportunity.
So your post about him being an unofficial spokesperson wasn't facetious but what you really believe? lol
Makes zero difference to me as a Game Pass owner, but they would be shooting themselves in the foot. Unbelievable waste of money. Couod have made a Game Pass deal for like a quarter of the cost. I guess it makes some difference to me actually, in as much as they could have spent that money on better stuff for their platform owners.
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