No guarantee they have even touched a playstation version yet, especialy if it slips out of 2021.So assuming Starfield is exclusive. It probably is. Are the people expecting it to be out this year just expecting them to throw out the almost finished PlayStation version and throw away all that money?
It will work kinda like thisAren't they kind of letting Bethesda/Zenimax work autonomously? I mean exclusively for the Xbox and window platforms, for sure, but it's like how disney lets Kevin Feige run marvel?
No guarantee they have even touched a playstation version yet, especialy if it slips out of 2021.
Either way that is not a deal breaker for MS if their strategy is to have the games exclusive, they are no strangers to burning money for years to make a lot more later and they are arguably doing that right now in gaming.
It is not necessarily EEE but it isnt what a lot of people consider playing fair either.
They opened the warchest after all
Prey 06 is already listed for 360 and available on back compat. In fact it was never delisted there.
You might be confusing the situation with the PC version, in which it wasn't so much delisted as it was literally sold out; 2K games ran out of CD keys and due to how it ended up on Steam (it was originally made for a competing store front that completely melted, resulting in a rather hasty transition) they seemingly lost the ability to generate any more.
Except it does, in fact the very CD key system is used for the master server (a multiplayer server will boot you if your key fails authentication on the master, a system that actually originated in Quake3 in an early form) as well as the game itself in which it presents a key auth if your key is missing. It's a similar system to that of Doom3s, though a different server/service.That's why the game was removed from sale but not why it was delisted altogether. The key requirement is just an id Tech thing; the game used the same Master Server-based multiplayer system as past id games and wasn't tied to any third-party service.
I just don't think you're going t to get that kind of definitive statement.MS needs to clarify exclusivity now.
The meltdowns will be big, no matter what they announce. Fanboys will be pissed lol
satya giving phil black checks from MS's checkbook
Except it does, in fact the very CD key system is used for the master server (a multiplayer server will boot you if your key fails authentication on the master, a system that actually originated in Quake3 in an early form) as well as the game itself in which it presents a key auth if your key is missing. It's a similar system to that of Doom3s, though a different server/service.
There's a sort of friction on these things, the longer you leave something the harder it is to reopen the code. I imagine they still have the code though, it'd just take someone brave enough to pitch doing the job.Wow this is funky. I've heard this stated about this before, but I can't wrap my head around how it is possible for digital storefronts and publishers to only have a finite stock of keys. I'm guessing it would take something like them remastering the game, like EA is with Mass Effect, essentially releasing a new product to make it available again? I dunno anything about program engineering, but what if the 06' game somehow offered a vulnerability to users windows security? Could MS bring out a patch if they wanted to, hypothetically?
Minecraft games?
CD Keys of that style are asynchronous. You need the private key to generate the public keys, and from what it seems, it's that private key that was lost when they moved the game. Triton's demise seemed to make an absolute mess of everything.What? I'm not saying the key wasn't tied to multiplayer functionality but rather that Bethesda's ability to generate additional ones isn't tied to a now-defunct company.
CD Keys of that style are asynchronous. You need the private key to generate the public keys, and from what it seems, it's that private key that was lost when they moved the game.
This is a singular quote from late last year. We've had quotes from Spencer that sounded very different. Wait and see.
This is a singular quote from late last year. We've had quotes from Spencer that sounded very different. Wait and see.
Taking Tom Warren's personal speculation as fact is also not healthy instead of waiting for official confirmation.Nah, that's not what this is about.
He's deeply connected with MS and seems to prepair people for the inevitable disappointment of some... Xbox fans.
LOL, spot on!My current plan is as follows:
In all 3 scenarios, I'll say it was incredibly obvious, and that everyone who thought differently was a huge idiot for not seeing these completely clear, unambiguous signals that were sent out by Microsoft.
- If they announce that games won't be exclusive, then I'll point to that interview with the dude who said "first or better or best" just like Tom is here.
- If they announce everything is going to be exclusive then I'll point to the Phil interview where he said "no" to the idea of playstation being required to make the math work
- If they don't announce anything concrete or stick to "case by case basis " talk, then I'll point to the interviews that said "we will evaluate on a case by case basis".
Nah, that's not what this is about.
He's deeply connected with MS and seems to prepair people for the inevitable disappointment of some... Xbox fans.
Whatever the outcome is, ima be enjoying the chaos.Nah, that's not what this is about.
He's deeply connected with MS and seems to prepair people for the inevitable disappointment of some... Xbox fans.
Nah, that's not what this is about.
He's deeply connected with MS and seems to prepair people for the inevitable disappointment of some... Xbox fans.
Would be stupid for Xbox fans to be disappointed. Xbox will for sure get Bethesda games, other platforms not so sure.
Bethesdas games will not get bad/worse just because they are on other platforms as well.
MS can go the traditional route and make all first party games exclusive or they can release some games on other platforms in a way to entice them to get Gamepass somehow.
But the strongest incentive to get Gamepass/Xbox hardware is to lock Bethesdas games as exclusive to the MS controlled platforms.
Arkane Austin is working on a new IP.Just fund Dishonored 3 and Prey 2
Don't care about anything else.
It's time.
This would be too good. Their own app is so, not good.
In a follow-up tweet he states himself this is what he thinks (not knows) and that he is eager to hear Microsoft's plans.
He literally said "probably". Speculation is exactly what this is. 😂Nah, that's not what this is about.
He's deeply connected with MS and seems to prepair people for the inevitable disappointment of some... Xbox fans.
Mergers: Commission clears acquisition of ZeniMax by Microsoft
The European Commission has approved, under the EU Merger Regulation, the acquisition of ZeniMax Media Inc. by Microsoft Corporation, both of the U.S. ZeniMax is a company that develops and publishes games for personal computers ('PCs'), gaming consoles, and mobile devices. Microsoft is a global technology company, which develops, publishes, and distributes games for PCs, consoles, and mobile devices. The Commission concluded that the proposed acquisition would raise no competition concerns, given the combined entity's limited market position upstream and the presence of strong downstream competitors in the distribution of video games. The transaction was examined under the normal merger review procedure. More information is available on the Commission's competition website, in the public case register under the case number M.10001
My current plan is as follows:
In all 3 scenarios, I'll say it was incredibly obvious, and that everyone who thought differently was a huge idiot for not seeing these completely clear, unambiguous signals that were sent out by Microsoft.
- If they announce that games won't be exclusive, then I'll point to that interview with the dude who said "first or better or best" just like Tom is here.
- If they announce everything is going to be exclusive then I'll point to the Phil interview where he said "no" to the idea of playstation being required to make the math work
- If they don't announce anything concrete or stick to "case by case basis " talk, then I'll point to the interviews that said "we will evaluate on a case by case basis".
Steams runs on Windows.
He literally said "probably". Speculation is exactly what this is. 😂
Keep in mind that it always ultimately makes more sense to sell a game than not, and they are still selling it on xbox and approved it for distribution for back compat. If they wanted to forget the game existed, ignoring BC would have been the opportunity.Edit edit: To be clear, I don't mean to rule out the possibility your understanding of the situation is correct, but surely you can agree that Bethesda willingly sitting on two games, re-releasing another only after it was "scrubbed", and Hines refusing to actually delineate the supposed "technical issues" coalesce into a certain picture.
So your post about him being an unofficial spokesperson wasn't facetious but what you really believe? lolHe won't exactly say "I know this for a fact", when MS hasn't said anything about it publicly, would he?
Makes zero difference to me as a Game Pass owner, but they would be shooting themselves in the foot. Unbelievable waste of money. Couod have made a Game Pass deal for like a quarter of the cost. I guess it makes some difference to me actually, in as much as they could have spent that money on better stuff for their platform owners.We'll see. I think people should be prepared for most games being multi.
And if you're not a console warrior you should be happy.