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Keym

The Fallen
Oct 26, 2017
9,191
Holy shit. Holy fucking shit. Why, WHY did I read that girl's experience. FUCK this guy, he deserves to rot in jail for all he's done.
 

Risev

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,407
I'm not aware of any sexual harassment/assault stuff, but Asmongold follows several alt-right accounts on Twitter like Mike Cernovich, Stefan Molyneux, TheQuartering, Lauren Southern, Nigel Farage, Ian Miles Cheong, Nicholas J. Fuentes, Jesse Kelly, Henrik Palmgren and in the past also Alex Jones (banned now). I also saw an Infowars sticker in one of his twitter pictures at some time (which was the reason why I checked his follower list and unfollowed him).
Asmon IS right leaning. I think he even said he voted for Trump. But he has been changing his perspective a lot over the past year or two. Either way, it's nice that someone as huge as him on Twitch immediately came in support to those who came out with these allegations without all the "innocent until proven guilty" bullshit.
 

headspawn

Member
Oct 27, 2017
14,605
Effective immediately*

*Meaning immediately two years after the fact and not actually when it probably should have happened, but hey better late than never right guys??!!! GUYS?!

They knew about it two years ago, had this 'statement' written up a fucking YEAR ago; and they still try to feign ignorance. That's incredible how stupid they think people are.
 

Wintermute

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,051
one method streamer has been asked to be released from their contract. i hope more do. note that method doesnt just have wow streamers.

 
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Milennia

Prophet of Truth - Community Resetter
Member
Oct 25, 2017
18,254
one method streamer has been asked to be released from their contract. i hope more do. note that method doesnt just have wow streamers.


He was told to wait 24 hours as they will be releasing presumably a large scale statement.
Very interested in how they can change perception at this point. I mean I know for an actual fact that they knew.

Only thing would be a ground up shakeup of the entire officer core who knew and defended him for years, the actual org leadership and all management.
They are insanely prideful, they would never do this, I'm expecting literally a massive excuse in writing and no action.
 

TheYanger

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
10,140
He was told to wait 24 hours as they will be releasing presumably a large scale statement.
Very interested in how they can change perception at this point. I mean I know for an actual fact that they knew.

Only thing would be a ground up shakeup of the entire officer core who knew and defended him for years, the actual org leadership and all management.
They are insanely prideful, they would never do this, I'm expecting literally a massive excuse in writing and no action.
Yup, There's no chance they do anything. We're not talking about even something like a team lead in a section of the org. Yeah, the Organization goes beyond the wow raiding guild, but I think people who are less familiar may not understand that the raiding guild *IS* Method, everything else is Sco trying to build the brand up, but if you just cut that entire circle out, you have no org left. It's like the entire C level structure at Method.
 

cartographer

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,004
Preach, a large WoW content creator who has cast events for Method in the past, says he won't be working with Method again: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/660930820

Says he asked Method about Josh twice, first time after he was banned from Twitch, with them saying to not worry about it, it's handled etc.

WoWhead boss says they are done with Method, as well:
 

dalq

Member
Feb 13, 2018
1,102
Did anyone get in contact with the media? I imagine kotaku would like to do a follow up on their article from last year.
 

TheYanger

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
10,140
Did anyone get in contact with the media? I imagine kotaku would like to do a follow up on their article from last year.
I'm sure there are stories being written about lots of the stuff going on right now, but there's a LOT happening and it's not all close to finished. There's 0 chance all the major outlets aren't fully aware.
 

Bane

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
5,905
Holy fuck, poopernoodles story is horrifying.

The entire team needs to be banned asap.

Thanks for the links to their sponsors, I contacted them as well and hopefully enough do so to get them dropped.
 

ScubaSteve693

Banned
Mar 26, 2020
680
I really hope Twitch takes the appropriate action against Method here, there are a lot of people part of the Method organization who probably didn't know about this, like NMP and I am sure a lot of others, but it appears as if this may have centered around their raiding team core. I could be wrong and if I am, please let me know but it seems as if their raiding team is complete garbage.
 

Friskyrum

Member
Jun 25, 2019
978
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I haven't rolled my eyes so hard in my life, also why am I not surprised some people are in chat defending this shit. Guess I shouldn't be that surprised because some people defended Elvine when that shit went down too. Fuck humans.
 

TheYanger

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
10,140
And while Sco and the rest sit there wondering why their fucking dream is crashing around them, I hope for at least a moment he has the clarity to realize he deserves this shit.
 

ScubaSteve693

Banned
Mar 26, 2020
680
Yeah, it's kind of a faint hope I'm not exactly holding my breath.
What is even shittier is Sco made this video about the how Method came from nothing to be this global powerhouse of a gaming team, all that jazz, and I think that was right after their world first in Uldir. This was also around the time in which a lot of the Josh stuff was being put out there and the video looks even worse now because of it.
 

Gloomz

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,402
Asmon IS right leaning. I think he even said he voted for Trump. But he has been changing his perspective a lot over the past year or two. Either way, it's nice that someone as huge as him on Twitch immediately came in support to those who came out with these allegations without all the "innocent until proven guilty" bullshit.

I don't know, man, he's on stream right now saying that Method didn't do anything wrong because 'the police found him innocent' so they believed he was innocent.

Fuck Method & Josh.
 

Risev

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,407
I don't know, man, he's on stream right now saying that Method didn't do anything wrong because 'the police found him innocent' so they believed he was innocent.

Fuck Method & Josh.
Yeah I'm listening right now and am very disappointed. There's 2 main things:
1) The police didn't fine him innocent, they found the investigation inconclusive, which is a huge difference AND the usual with the vast majority of sexual assault allegations.
2) He's saying right now that Method did the right thing letting Josh go. I would like to ask: what's the difference between letting Josh go now or 1-2 years ago? Method didn't learn any new information during this period of time. The only difference between now and 2 years ago is that 2 years ago only Method knew, and now everyone else knows. If he agrees with Method letting Josh go right now (which he does), then he shouldn't be agreeing with them not letting him go back then.

Very disappointed and I say go ahead and remove Asmon from the "good response" category.
 
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Milennia

Prophet of Truth - Community Resetter
Member
Oct 25, 2017
18,254
Yeah I'm listening right now and am very disappointed. There's 2 main things:
1) The police didn't fine him innocent, they found the investigation inconclusive, which is a huge difference AND the usual with the vast majority of sexual assault allegations.
2) He's saying right now that Method did the right thing letting Josh go. I would like to ask: what's the difference between letting Josh go now or 1-2 years ago? Method didn't learn any new information during this period of time. The only difference between now and 2 years ago is that 2 years ago only Method knew, and now everyone else knows. If he agrees with Method letting Josh go right now (which he does), then he shouldn't be agreeing with them not letting him go back then.

Very disappointed and I say go ahead and remove Asmon from the "good response" category.
These are horrible takes form him, very disappointed
 

Scuffed

Member
Oct 28, 2017
10,834
Yeah I'm listening right now and am very disappointed. There's 2 main things:
1) The police didn't fine him innocent, they found the investigation inconclusive, which is a huge difference AND the usual with the vast majority of sexual assault allegations.
2) He's saying right now that Method did the right thing letting Josh go. I would like to ask: what's the difference between letting Josh go now or 1-2 years ago? Method didn't learn any new information during this period of time. The only difference between now and 2 years ago is that 2 years ago only Method knew, and now everyone else knows. If he agrees with Method letting Josh go right now (which he does), then he shouldn't be agreeing with them not letting him go back then.

Very disappointed and I say go ahead and remove Asmon from the "good response" category.

Ya I take back the good things I was saying about him. Although I feel like most of his takes on this are him just being contrarian they are shit takes and I too am removing him from the "good response" category. He's mixing good takes with really bad takes and I hate that shit. Fuck him.
 

Risev

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,407
Ya I take back the good things I was saying about him. Although I feel like most of his takes on this are him just being contrarian they are shit takes and I too am removing him from the "good response" category. He's mixing good takes with really bad takes and I hate that shit. Fuck him.
Yeah. He's still on board with the whole "Method deserves to go" thing but it's mixed with so many bad takes that it's not worth even talking about him anymore.
 

Deleted member 36578

Dec 21, 2017
26,561
Holy shit . I know nothing about the people involved or the community, this topic is the first time learning these names. That person is sick in the head. I can't believe it went on as long as it did. Please i pray he's arrested eventually and taken away from society never capable of hurting anyone ever again. I feel sick to my stomach.
 
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Milennia

Milennia

Prophet of Truth - Community Resetter
Member
Oct 25, 2017
18,254
Limits and Max keep wining
Don't worry, they have someone in their ranks who I know of that has some of his own shit.
Not to this extent but emotional abuse and manipulation a fucking plenty.
Won't even mention some of the stuff that's said about people behind the scenes, but it's been a while so idk if it's changed in the last year, definitely hasn't for the people I know in that guild though at least.

Someone made a twitlonger about stuff, a friend of mine but I wont go linking it around without permission.
 

Bufbaf

Don't F5!
Member
Oct 25, 2017
12,642
Hamburg, Germany
I'm not aware of any sexual harassment/assault stuff, but Asmongold follows several alt-right accounts on Twitter like Mike Cernovich, Stefan Molyneux, TheQuartering, Lauren Southern, Nigel Farage, Ian Miles Cheong, Nicholas J. Fuentes, Jesse Kelly, Henrik Palmgren and in the past also Alex Jones (banned now). I also saw an Infowars sticker in one of his twitter pictures at some time (which was the reason why I checked his follower list and unfollowed him).
He's in the destiny circle of "debating" people. That should explain literally everything.
 
Nov 14, 2017
4,928
Yeah I'm listening right now and am very disappointed. There's 2 main things:
1) The police didn't fine him innocent, they found the investigation inconclusive, which is a huge difference AND the usual with the vast majority of sexual assault allegations.
2) He's saying right now that Method did the right thing letting Josh go. I would like to ask: what's the difference between letting Josh go now or 1-2 years ago? Method didn't learn any new information during this period of time. The only difference between now and 2 years ago is that 2 years ago only Method knew, and now everyone else knows. If he agrees with Method letting Josh go right now (which he does), then he shouldn't be agreeing with them not letting him go back then.

Very disappointed and I say go ahead and remove Asmon from the "good response" category.
Yea, that's the kind of thing I'd expect from him. He sometimes says the most insightful right on things, then he doesn't apply it to other situations. A bit ago during the H3H3/keemstar drama he started a stream discussing why he was banning toxic people and why it was important for content creators to not cultivate toxic communities, but then later on took the opposite view when he was doing the H3H3 stuff saying Keemstar wasn't responsible for the actions of his community.
 

Acidote

Member
Oct 26, 2017
4,965
This is fucking disgusting. Fuck Method. Anyone decent should be released from the team so their names are not shitstained. Method is dead to me.
 

ScubaSteve693

Banned
Mar 26, 2020
680
Still awaiting the bullshit response Method has for us, if any of their members has a spine they will resign and go to new guilds and whatnot.
 
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Milennia

Milennia

Prophet of Truth - Community Resetter
Member
Oct 25, 2017
18,254


Good on corsair here. Quick response for a large company.
Their next biggest sponsor is MSI.
 

ScubaSteve693

Banned
Mar 26, 2020
680


Good on corsair here. Quick response for a large company.
Their next biggest sponsor is MSI.

Good, MSI needs to step up to the plate now and end their sponsorship before I break my motherboard! (Really, I wont, I need it to play my games but them continuing sponsorship would make me want a new mobo when the AMD processors come out, even though they would still work in my board)
 

cartographer

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,004
Some members of Method's eSports teams have addressed it today to varying degrees.

Cdew, Method Orange arena team member, wants to be released from his contract. His teammate Samiyam posted about it earlier.


Whaazz, Method Black arena team member:


Naowh, Method EU MDI tank (and on their Shadowlands raiding roster AFAIK):


JB, Method NA MDI healer. Notably, also involved with Darrie, the Method GM mentioned throughout this thread:


Additionally, there's a lot of content creators / casters today that have said they have left Method, have asked to leave or have removed Method branding from their pages for the time being. I'm not going to cover all of them, but some of the notable ones not yet mentioned in this thread are Snowmixy, Ziqo, Ellesmere, Venruki, Payo and Dratnos.
 
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Milennia

Milennia

Prophet of Truth - Community Resetter
Member
Oct 25, 2017
18,254
Everyone besides the core guild members has dropped them as of now.
Even the shitty CM in the OP.
 

ScubaSteve693

Banned
Mar 26, 2020
680
The day goes by, and still nothing from Method. There MUST be some form of severe internal turmoil going on for them to delay their message this long. Been over 24 hours with no word from Sco, Roger, or anyone that is the in the upper management chain.
 

cartographer

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,004
Darrie had a big role in the Josh stuff and deserves all the criticism she's been getting. She's management. She was dismissive at best and helped cover it up.

In some spaces, she's the only one getting criticism though, which is absurd. Sco's silence and the silence of all the officers other than Potter is them just allowing Darrie to be the scapegoat. And again, to be clear, she absolutely failed, but so did Sco and the others.
 
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Milennia

Milennia

Prophet of Truth - Community Resetter
Member
Oct 25, 2017
18,254
So I did a whole thing on twitter today, did everything I could, got as many people involved as possible and it seems as though all that's left is just the WoW guild itself.
They were supposed to make a statement today and we knew that because they had a stream going all day long WITH LOOPING ADDS MAKING A PROFIT FFS, with a statement on a static display saying they would make one tonight.
It's now the next day on the east coast, literally nothing.
 
Oct 25, 2017
41,368
Miami, FL
This is some sick shit. Burn this org to the ground.

I assume the delay on the bigger statement is leadership buying time to get their Indeed resumes together and online.
 

HarryDemeanor

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,422
So I did a whole thing on twitter today, did everything I could, got as many people involved as possible and it seems as though all that's left is just the WoW guild itself.
They were supposed to make a statement today and we knew that because they had a stream going all day long WITH LOOPING ADDS MAKING A PROFIT FFS, with a statement on a static display saying they would make one tonight.
It's now the next day on the east coast, literally nothing.
I doubt whatever they're going to release will even be worth the wait. They're just trying to stop the bleeding considering they were having people hold off leaving until it was out. It's going to be a whole lot of nothing.
 

ColdSun

Together, we are strangers
Administrator
Oct 25, 2017
3,290
This whole thing is absolutely disgusting every step of the way.
 

Quinton

Specialist at TheGamer / Reviewer at RPG Site
Member
Oct 25, 2017
17,256
Midgar, With Love
As someone not connected with streaming culture, I didn't know who this was, nor was I familiar with this organization. To be frank, I'm practically ashamed this and doubtless other horror stories have passed me by for so long. Absolutely fucking atrocious. What a gross person and what a fucked up organization.
 

ColdSun

Together, we are strangers
Administrator
Oct 25, 2017
3,290
Heh. MethodDarrie has closed her twitter account. Can't hide from sending that email way back when, apparently.