I agree with most but Cadence
MTBMB especially part 2, listen to Zues I think RN he's peak with cadence but shit with content
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ERA's Eminem hate boner is embarrassing
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I agree with most but Cadence
MTBMB especially part 2, listen to Zues I think RN he's peak with cadence but shit with content
Yea but what content are people expecting exactly? His middle age rich white guy problems? Should he make fun of boy bands again?
When you boil it down the biggest problem people have with Eminem is he shouldn't exist any more in the rap game. If that's the best you can do then you got nothing
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Breh, how you gonna hold up his most straightforward song in years as an example of his pen game?
Like, this surface-level comparison of pre-show jitters and the Vegas shooting ain't touching anything Lupe, Aesop or Ka did in the past five years. Ka's doing full-on concept albums relating street shit to the bushido code, Cain and Abel and Greek mythology, but because he doesn't rap fast and his beats don't have drums, I guess he might as well not exist.
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Middle age white guy problems would be interesting. Exploring aging in a genre dominated by younger people is good and he's like one of five big mainstream rappers who can. At worst it's be more interesting than just bars for the sake of bars or serial killer raps.
After Eminem excised the cancer of Trump supporters from his fanbase (line in the sand stuff), he became goat for me. People in entertainment industry, especially those within the toxic masculinity, sexist zones tend to be shitbags who wouldn't piss off their voters with political stuff. AKA "Republicans buy sneakers too" mentality. But Eminem despite making at times misogynistic and sexist garbage in his product, stood up and told Trumplings to fuck right off. And this was also huge because alt-right and Trump Republicans were making Eminem "their" guy on account of his potty mouth behavior.
I'll be real, for as shit as Revival is, if Eminem took that kind of content and put it over decent production and restrained himself from his more annoying writing habits and flows, I would actually be interested in hearing it.
You know I'm on your side right?
just saying for argument sake that's the only objective counter point people can make
yeah seems most people just want
him to stop existing.
Unless you're calling DJ Sven a liar, that's proof right there that the best Eminem can manage is second place.
Curtains Down skit at the end of the song/album more or less the same
The only Em song I listen to with any regularity is Infinite. That's still a classic jam, to me.
we loved him in middle school and by high school he was officially cheese
He reminds me of the year 2000.
When people call him the goat, I have flashbacks of comedians saying "the greatest golfer is black and the best rapper is white waka waka waka"
and I just wonder about these people who hold outdated opinions for decades just to keep some lame "ironic" joke relevant to themselves
It's fair to call Em a "rap god" based on his rappity rap ability and influence but that's it.
MF DOOM is the best of all time. Kendrick is unquestionably more goated
is this your king?
www.google.com
we loved him in middle school and by high school he was officially cheese
He reminds me of the year 2000.
When people call him the goat, I have flashbacks of comedians saying "the greatest golfer is black and the best rapper is white waka waka waka"
and I just wonder about these people who hold outdated opinions for decades just to keep some lame "ironic" joke relevant to themselves
It's fair to call Em a "rap god" based on his rappity rap ability and influence but that's it.
MF DOOM is the best of all time. Kendrick is unquestionably more goated
is this your king?
Eminem expresses regret for anti-Trump freestyle, claims he was questioned by Secret Service
Eminem has addressed the response to his 2017 BET Awards Tump freestyle, and claims the president sent Secret Service agents to interview him.
www.google.com
The only Em song I listen to with any regularity is Infinite. That's still a classic jam, to me.
we loved him in middle school and by high school he was officially cheese
He reminds me of the year 2000.
When people call him the goat, I have flashbacks of comedians saying "the greatest golfer is black and the best rapper is white waka waka waka"
and I just wonder about these people who hold outdated opinions for decades just to keep some lame "ironic" joke relevant to themselves
It's fair to call Em a "rap god" based on his rappity rap ability and influence but that's it.
MF DOOM is the best of all time. Kendrick is unquestionably more goated
is this your king?
Eminem expresses regret for anti-Trump freestyle, claims he was questioned by Secret Service
Eminem has addressed the response to his 2017 BET Awards Tump freestyle, and claims the president sent Secret Service agents to interview him.
The article you linked is the authors opinion and rips lines from lyrics and offers their opinion and not his own. He doubled down on his fuck trump shit when actually asked and quoted:
"At the end of the day, if I did lose half my fan base, then so be it, because I feel like I stood up for what was right and I'm on the right side of this," he told Billboard in an interview posted Thursday. "I don't see how somebody could be middle class, busting their a– every single day, paycheck to paycheck, who thinks that that f—— billionaire is gonna help you."
If the closest you can get to calling him a Trumpers is him saying:
"If I could go back, I'd at least reword it / And say I empathize with the people this evil serpent sold the dream to that he's deserted,"
Then thats a weak assed attack bruh. Especially when you got lil wayne taking fucking pictures with Donald Trump. Criticize him for legit reasons. Trying to paint him as a Trumper is stupid.
That song came out in 2011 and they still felt saying "faggot" was acceptable.
you think my post tried to "paint him as a trumper", really? How?
he said he regretted the line the poster said made him their goat, that's it
now he doesn't regret it; whatever
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Lmaooo OP needs to come online , twitter Gen z and younger millennials aren't crazy about Eminem either Lmaoo
It's not exclusive to ERA
It's not exclusive to ERA
Came to post this, sad to see it's already here. And probably on a bunch of previous pages too lol.
I mean you probably do? Just off the top of my head, the libraries and careers of two other middle-aged white rappers (El-P and Aesop Rock) vastly eclipse Eminem's. And both are definitely putting out better music in 2021 (where I'd also argue that at the least El is much more relevant to music overall nowadays than Eminem).
This doesn't make Em a "Trumper" but he does essentially say he empathizes with Trumpers. Also, this CNN article is from January, and The Ringer was released in August. He's basically saying he regrets losing the Trump loving fan base he has by alienating them with his lyrics, instead of standing by doing the right thing and losing them. I'm pretty sure he says it again in his interview with Sway.
Some people who don't actually listen to rap or possibly like it (lol) are in this post. Its a perfectly legit argument to debate Em's greatness pro or against, but its odd how people see him as the alpha and omega of the genre.
El-P is easily up there; I would argue he's stronger at documenting abusive home life and struggle along with better constructed bars (his earlier flows are an acquired taste, lol) in his solo work and Run The Jewels is basically wide screen stadium hip-hop a la "Lose Yourself" but filtered through a sharp sociopolitical edge with stronger songwriting.
And we won't get into the fact EL is one of the greatest beatmakers of all time. Em's a fantastic mix of success and skill a la Jay, Biggie etc so its fun debating GOAT status on that level. But to say he's the best in the art-form factoring in underground less mainstream cats? Nah.
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nah for real, why'd you interpret my post as trying to paint him as being a trump supporter?
The article I posted said he regrets the anti-trump line and he empathizes with trump supporters as if they were somehow tricked by trump and not willingly into his evil bullshit(which is dumb as fuck) but nothing in my post implied he himself is a trump supporter.
that you even interpreted my post as any kind of "attack" is some bullshit, for real
Eminem will be fine even if I did "attack him"...