Episode 9 is the last chance for John Williams

[Bunzy]

I mean can we all talk about the most important aspect of episode 9. John Williams gave us amazing new music in the Original and prequel trilogy but we have yet to really have that duel of fates track in the new movies.

who thinks Williams continues the trend and gives us a good but not stellar soundtrack that is similar to episode 7,8.

or does he save his best performance for last and gives us something that absolutely can be held next to the Star Wars standard

 

[Yoshichan]

Last chance for whom?

 

[BDS]

TLJ has some pretty good music, The Spark is a pure fire track.

 

[SJRB]

Last chance for whom?

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John Williams, apparantly.

 

[meowdi gras]

Williams needed to retire a long while back.

 

[Kalentan]

I do hope Episode 9's score knocks it out of the park. While Episode 7 and 8 had a few good tracks, the vast majority of it was incredibly unmemorable compared to what came before.

 

[Deleted member 2802]

This is music composition, not anime
He's not saving his final form

He's won every possible award multiple times. Expecting him to top himself at 87 is an extremely high bar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Williams#Awards

 

[Tornak]

I love Rey's Theme.

 

[spookyduzt]

He's just gonna reuse Duel of the Fates again, but won't get shit on for rehashing old shit like JJ does.

 

[TheJollyCorner]

Yeah...this is truly John Williams' last chance to prove himself as an actual music composer.

I wish him luck. He's going to need it.

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[PeskyToaster]

John Williams needs a chance at what? He cemented himself as the greatest like 40 years ago.

This is [x], not anime

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I could use this template for sooooo many posts here.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

Being a Star Wars fan is an exercise in absolute misery.

 

[SirMossyBloke]

Is he dying, OP?

 

[Deleted member 17207]

Eh, I agree with others that John Williams doesn't need to be prove shit - but I also agree with OP that compared to the OT and PT scores, the ST scores so far have been.........mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmeh.

Not to say I haven't enjoyed them, but apart from Rey and Kylo's themes the rest are somewhat forgettable.

 

[ZeoVGM]

what

 

[thecouncil]

I think we've already got them.

 

[Solo]

His work on the ST has been excellent. Say no to drugs, kids.

 

[SlumberingGiant]

He doesn't need to prove anything. He is the GOAT. But it would be nice for the ST to have some memorable music at least.

 

[Bane]

I actually find that after initial disappointment with them, the more I listen to the ST scores the more I enjoy them. I agree he's not something on the level of Duel or Battle of the Heroes in the ST but that's fine, there are still some good ones in it like Rey, Kylo, and The Resistance.

 

[Gunslinger]

ST music has been lackluster. Nothing there comes close to duel of fates, across the stars, order 66, battle of heroes and i am even afraid to compare it to ot.

 

[fieldafar]

You're wrong, OP. There's lots of great tracks and cues in the two sequels so far.

 

[Team_Feisar]

Reys´ theme, The Jedi Steps/Ach-to and the March of the Resistance are fantastic.
I agree that the new Films have had less bombastic Songs than the PT especially, but that kinda fits the less soap-operatic feeling of the movies.

 

[Khanimus]

Last chance?

Oh yeah, that young up-and-comer sure seems to be struggling for opportunities.

 

[Mivey]

His score for the ST has been sublime, the movies just don't put as much focus on the score, which is an actual issue, but not anything Williams is to blame for

 

[Travo]

TFA soundtrack was amazing. TLJ's was eh. Hopefully he is inspired by the new movie.

 

[TableBeRound]

The scores for TFA and TLJ have both been really underwhelming.

 

[Noctilum]

It's all up to the director as to what type of music is wanted for each scene. I'm sure he has made some "Duel of Fate" samples that probably got rejected because they were not what the director was looking for in the scene. I never thought episode VIi or VIII had any prequel style fight scenes that warranted that type of music myself.

 

[Heynongman!]

The scores have been terrific so far. Rey's theme is so good. The March of the Resistance is also great. Not everything needs to be as bombastic and loud as Duel of the Fates

 

[kvetcha]

He's just gonna reuse Duel of the Fates again, but won't get shit on for rehashing old shit like JJ does.

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That's because he's John Williams and not JJ fucking Abrams.

 

[Aurongel]

Film scores in general have long been trending away from the types of showy compositions he's known for - Disney being especially guilty of driving that trend.

Only in a world where John Williams is the undisputed GOAT can we honestly look at the soundtracks for the ST and call them boring.

 

[DidactBRHU3]

His Magnum Opus was the Revenge of the Sith soundtrack imo. The ST has some good tracks like Rey's theme but give the man a rest. He won't make another legendary soundtrack at 87.

 

[GSG]

😂 @ last chance

This will most likely be the last Star Wars movie he composes music for(due to age, not performance).

Also, Rey's theme and Jedi Steps are awesome.

 

[Prine]

No where near the brilliance of OT and PT. Hope he comes though.

Across the Stars and Duel of Fates are incredible, nothing in ST comes anywhere near them.

 

[Deleted member 21411]

If he fails we ship him back to gilligans island

 

[Plasma]

Rey's theme and Jedi Steps are up there with some of his best work.

 

[Altazor]

Rey's theme is one of the best themes in Star Wars, IMHO.

 

[SweetNicole]

Lol OP

Dude is a living legend

 

[Patitoloco]

Yes OP, he won't work ever again. I'm glad the hack is in trouble finally.

 

[Sanjuro]

I brought a friend to see Jaws for the first time on the big screen. She told me it just sounded like Harry Potter.

John Williams. This is your last chance to convince someone you do more than Harry Potter. Knock'em dead!

 

[TortoiseRevenge]

March of the Resistance, The Scavenger, Rey's Theme, Kylo Ren's theme, The Starkiller, The Spark, Canto Bight, The Battle of Crait are all amazing in my opinion

 

[Truant]

The only good music to come out of the ST is the First Order four note cue.

 

[Deleted member 32822]

Is he being executed after the film comes out or something?

 

[TheGrue]

Can the mods please change the thread title to "John Williams - Canto Bight? More Like Canto Compose."

 

[ProtomanNeo]

Outside of Reys theme and Jedi Steps the sequel trilogy hasn't been that great as far Williams output IMO (though he seemed to be at least trying in TFA) but then again I can't blame Williams he's not working with much.

 

[RowdyReverb]

I love Rey's Theme.

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Me too. I can easily hear it in my head, it's a very memorable track

 

[Zulith]

Sequel trilogy hasn't been his best work but it's incredible what he is still achieving at his age. Still tracks here and there with new magic. We are absolutely blessed that he was still available for VII, VIII, IX, in the case of almost any other composer after all the time that has passed it just wouldn't be so.

 

[WaluigiTime]

I have had no problem with the sequel trilogy score, in fact I really enjoy it?

 

[Lant_War]

Last chance? You got a bid on him or something?

 

[Blader]

You're right OP, the man is really treading on thin ice at this point. I'm worried if he can't deliver for this movie then all his previous scores will be burned and erased from memory as punishment.

 

[Jarmel]

The sequel trilogy music is definitely the weakest of the three trilogies, by a good margin too. I can't remember a single track from TLJ. It is what it is, I guess.

It's probably about time for a change up of composers anyway.