Epic vs Apple court case Megathread. Overview of all documents and Era threads.

[Kyougar]

Disclaimer: This thread exists as a source for all "leaked" documents from the court case.
As the documents are widely different in what they show, a Megathread to DISUCSS all documents in one thread is not really helpfull.

This thread exist as a starting point to get to all the other threads that discuss the specific document.
If there is a new document out, feel free to post it here, or make another thread with the document as the news and post the thread link here. If I forget a thread, please let me know, thank you.


1. Borderlands 3 exclusivity payout

Borderlands 3 on EGS in First 2 weeks : 1.56M Overall Sales ,$100M Revenue ($77M from EGS) ,Deal Cost is $115M including $80M Recoupable Min Guarantee

From leaked Case Files Edit : Correct me If I am Wrong , But I guess the Minimum Guarantee is Recoupable to Epic once the game reaches that target ? For example , Epic pays $80M as minimum Guarantee , Once BL3 reaches 80M , Epic recoups those money ? I think the Permenant cost that isnt...

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2. Daily Active Users (DAU), daily revenue, and new store users on EGS

Epic Store DAU, New Users per Day and Daily Revenue for the first 9 months

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3. Free games buyout prices

Leaked doc shows buyout prices for games from the free EGS games program, copies redeemed, new account creations/game and more for the first 9 months

Assuming "Entitlements" implies number of Copies redeemed and "UA" cost might be User Acquisition cost, so cost per new acquisition (Game buyout price divided by new users gained). Correct me if I'm wrong. ------------------------------------------------------------ Full doc:

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4. possible Dead Island 2 and Saints Row 5 Exclusivity

Dead Island 2 and Saints Row 5 apparently EGS exclusives Rumor

From the court case.

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5. Fortnite made 9 Billions
(Document/Picture was not included in the thread)

Fortnite made more than $9 billion in revenue in its first two years, court documents show News

https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2021/5/3/22417447/fortnite-revenue-9-billion-epic-games-apple-antitrust-case?utm_campaign=theverge&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&__twitter_impression=true God damn. No wonder Epic is able to afford so much.

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6. conversation between Epic and Sony regarding Crossplay

Leaked conversation between Sony and Epic Games regarding cross-play in 2018

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7. 7% of users who claimed free games bought something on EGS

Apparently 7% of users who claimed free game on Epic store purchased something after that

Numbers are apparently from mid last year and possibly don't include Fortnite players.

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8. Cross-platform revenue guarantees from Sony. (read threadmarks and staff posts to understand more)

Epic lawsuit shows Sony asks publishers for compensation if MTX / playerbase ratio falls below certain amount compared to the cross-platform revenue

So a nice tidbit that appeared during the Epic vs Apple lawsuit: Devs need to pay for crossplay once the Revenue Share / Gameplay Share for PSN is below 85%. I guess we can say Sony is encouraging developers not to have crossplatform play.

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9.

We also have the Epic Vs Apple Real Time thread.

Epic Games Vs. Apple court case has begun

Imagine all the bugs and crashes we would see if the consoles becomes a PC with many different storefronts. Who are going to make sure those play well with Sonys console? Sony would have to work together with developers from all other storefronts and it would be a clusterfuxx of a mess...

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10.
Disclaimer: Microsoft denied the Rumor for right now

Kyougar Great OP and great work finding all of those . I think there is another one to add? details below:-

There are docs that list Xbox changing their PC cut to 12% and also their console store to 12% (but that hasn't been announced and doc is from January so may be old).

They also detail some possible scloosies for Xbox. I think/assume all the docs came from the court case submissions?

Rumor: Microsoft will lower cut to 12% for Xbox games; S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 is a 3-month console exclusive [Up: MS - No revenue change at this time] Rumor

https://wccftech.com/stalker-2-is-a-3-month-console-exclusive-microsoft-will-increase-revenue-share-for-xbox-games-too/ https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/2/22415712/microsoft-xbox-store-cut-epic-games-court-documents

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included documents:

11.
Walmarts Cloud Gaming service "Project Storm"

Walmart’s unannounced cloud gaming service detailed in confidential Epic emails [Codenamed Project Storm] News

Walmart’s unannounced cloud gaming service, codenamed Project Storm, has been detailed in new confidential emails. An exhibit in the Epic Games v. Apple trial reveals Walmart’s efforts to pitch its cloud gaming service to Epic Games and get Fortnite on board. Walmart was planning what it...

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12. Anno 1800 and Division 2 gross sales and refunds

Tim Sweeney's apology email to Yves Guillemot shows a 70-90% fraudulent transaction rate on EGS for The Division 2

Thanks to strudelkuchen for pointing it out in the documents thread. --- Dear Yves, I'm writing to apologize for the shortcomings in our Epic Games store implementation and our Uplay integration. In the past 48 hours, the rate of fraudulent transactions on Division 2 surpassed 70% and was...

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13.
Nintendo bars Japanese partners from working with the Yakuza

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.364265/gov.uscourts.cand.364265.554.1.pdf

Epic Vs. Apple Docs: Nintendo Specifically Bars Japanese Partners From Working With the Yakuza

https://www.ign.com/articles/nintendo-specifically-bars-japanese-partners-from-working-with-yakuza?utm_source=twitter

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Phil Spencer on xcloud on other consoles.

Phil Spencer to Tim Sweeney in August 2020: "haven't given up" on xCloud for other consoles

In reply to Tim Sweeney trying to hard-sell Phil on dropping F2P Gold paywall to align with the 1984 "fireworks" show lmao

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14.
Microsoft profits in 2019

Microsoft made $2.2b in profits on Software and Services in 2019

Going by the order Tencent absolutely playing alone

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Epic Games offered $200m to Sony for 1st party titles on EGS

Epic Games offered $200m to Sony for 1st party titles on EGS and more News

Phil Spencer and Gabe Newell are BFF and good luck with convincing Nintendo lol

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16. Xbox Portfolio Team Reviews: The Last of Us Part II

Xbox Portfolio Team Reviews: The Last of Us Part II

So, from the recently obtained court documents has a page that had two of Xbox's Portfolio Team members (Mike and Jon) play and write a "review" of the game, as part of recent game release highlights - presumably for one of their leadership meetings. Probably one of the few times we'll get...

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Epic Store 2019 Revenue Split and data for various Sales (Holiday Sale, Spring Sale...)

Epic Store 2019 Revenue Split and data for various Sales (Holiday Sale, Spring Sale...)

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18.
Steam Sales 2019 Epic estimates

Steam 2019 Global Sales numbers (Epic estimates) Sales

@mods I don't know what to really classify it. Rumor because it comes from another company, or Sales because it comes from official court documents? (sadly the main document was taken down and not yet reuploaded) Disclaimer, all sales numbers here are Epic either guestimates or known by them...

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Deeke posted a direct link if any one of you want to look directly for new documents.

Here's a link to exhibits too https://tinyurl.com/epicvapple

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DX-3399 Redacted.pdf - AnonFiles

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whole DX-3399 (lot's of Epic Games Store data, probably stuff that hasn't been posted yet too)

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[Genetrik]

Awesome thread. Thanks

 

[gitrektali]

Thanks for this thread!

 

[meschio94]

10. Rocket League Revenue on all platforms.

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The leak about Rocket league new client could mean steam version will be left behind, i don't think they will be able to push a lot of users on egs anyway with this tactic

 

[Deeke]

Here's a link to exhibits too https://tinyurl.com/epicvapple

 

[panda-zebra]

Oh nice one Kyougar, this stuff is a goldmine and now I don't have to worry about missing out on any of it, going to keep an eye on this one.

 

[Kyougar]

Here's a link to exhibits too https://tinyurl.com/epicvapple

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Thanks! Added it to the first post.

 

[Mr. Snuffleupagus]

Quick Q: Didn't they expect that all this would come out in discovery? I can't imagine they would be happy with it coming out but.... I dunno.

 

[Shard Shinjuku]

We also have the Epic Vs Apple Real Time thread.

Epic Games Vs. Apple court case has begun

Imagine all the bugs and crashes we would see if the consoles becomes a PC with many different storefronts. Who are going to make sure those play well with Sonys console? Sony would have to work together with developers from all other storefronts and it would be a clusterfuxx of a mess...

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[GrrImAFridge]

Quick Q: Didn't they expect that all this would come out in discovery? I can't imagine they would be happy with it coming out but.... I dunno.

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I'm sure Sweeney and co. were told in no uncertain terms that this sort of data would be made public should the case to progress to court, but I'm also sure they were confident Apple would yield and the information would stay behind closed doors, in no small part because some of it is rather damning (e.g. the meagre 7% conversion rate for freebie claimants -> paying customers).

 

[Sargerus]

I eagerly wait for a leaked doc mentioning a PC port of Bloodborne.

 

[Irrotational]

Kyougar Great OP and great work finding all of those . I think there is another one to add? details below:-

There are docs that list Xbox changing their PC cut to 12% and also their console store to 12% (but that hasn't been announced and doc is from January so may be old).

They also detail some possible scloosies for Xbox. I think/assume all the docs came from the court case submissions?

Rumor: Microsoft will lower cut to 12% for Xbox games; S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 is a 3-month console exclusive [Up: MS - No revenue change at this time] Rumor

https://wccftech.com/stalker-2-is-a-3-month-console-exclusive-microsoft-will-increase-revenue-share-for-xbox-games-too/ https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/2/22415712/microsoft-xbox-store-cut-epic-games-court-documents

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[Iron Eddie]

9 billion on Fortnite, that's pretty insane. Surprised they haven't done big acquisitions of their own.

 

[KDR_11k]

Are there law bloggers chronicling the oral proceedings?

 

[strudelkuchen]

Tim Epic to Yves Ubisoft about Division 2 fraud.

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Dear Yves,

I'm writing to apologize for the shortcomings in our Epic Games store implementation and our Uplay integration.

In the past 48 hours, the rate of fraudulent transactions on Division 2 surpassed 70% and was approaching 90%. Sophisticated hackers were creating Epic accounts, buying Ubisoft games with stolen credit cards, and then selling the linked Uplay accounts faster than we were disabling linked Uplay purchases for fraud.

Fraud rates for other Epic games store titles are under 2% and Fortnite is under 1%. So 70% fraud was an extraordinary situation.

To stop the fraud, we disabled purchasing of Ubisoft games. We will make our best efforts to restore service as quickly as we can. This depends on (1) a real-time system for disabling refunded and fraudulent purchases on Uplay, and (2) anti-fraud improvements in Epic's service. This work will likely take at least 2 weeks to complete.

The fault in this situation is entirely Epic's, and all of the minimum revenue guarantees remain in place to ensure our performance.

I'm sorry for the trouble,

Tim Sweeney

Epic Games

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via https://app.box.com/s/6b9wmjvr582c95uzma1136exumk6p989/file/806843549406

 

[Kyougar]

We also have the Epic Vs Apple Real Time thread.

Epic Games Vs. Apple court case has begun

Imagine all the bugs and crashes we would see if the consoles becomes a PC with many different storefronts. Who are going to make sure those play well with Sonys console? Sony would have to work together with developers from all other storefronts and it would be a clusterfuxx of a mess...

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Kyougar Great OP and great work finding all of those . I think there is another one to add? details below:-

There are docs that list Xbox changing their PC cut to 12% and also their console store to 12% (but that hasn't been announced and doc is from January so may be old).

They also detail some possible scloosies for Xbox. I think/assume all the docs came from the court case submissions?

Rumor: Microsoft will lower cut to 12% for Xbox games; S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 is a 3-month console exclusive [Up: MS - No revenue change at this time] Rumor

https://wccftech.com/stalker-2-is-a-3-month-console-exclusive-microsoft-will-increase-revenue-share-for-xbox-games-too/ https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/2/22415712/microsoft-xbox-store-cut-epic-games-court-documents

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Thanks :) added.

Are there law bloggers chronicling the oral proceedings?

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Hoeg Law is following this since the beginning on Youtube and Twitter

https://twitter.com/HoegLaw

 

[Morten88]

Tim Epic to Yves Ubisoft about Division 2 fraud.

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Dear Yves,

I'm writing to apologize for the shortcomings in our Epic Games store implementation and our Uplay integration.

In the past 48 hours, the rate of fraudulent transactions on Division 2 surpassed 70% and was approaching 90%. Sophisticated hackers were creating Epic accounts, buying Ubisoft games with stolen credit cards, and then selling the linked Uplay accounts faster than we were disabling linked Uplay purchases for fraud.

Fraud rates for other Epic games store titles are under 2% and Fortnite is under 1%. So 70% fraud was an extraordinary situation.

To stop the fraud, we disabled purchasing of Ubisoft games. We will make our best efforts to restore service as quickly as we can. This depends on (1) a real-time system for disabling refunded and fraudulent purchases on Uplay, and (2) anti-fraud improvements in Epic's service. This work will likely take at least 2 weeks to complete.

The fault in this situation is entirely Epic's, and all of the minimum revenue guarantees remain in place to ensure our performance.

I'm sorry for the trouble,

Tim Sweeney

Epic Games

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Wtf 70% fraud rate?????

 

[Kyougar]

I'm sure Sweeney and co. were told in no uncertain terms that this sort of data would be made public should the case to progress to court, but I'm also sure they were confident Apple would yield and the information would stay behind closed doors, in no small part because some of it is rather damning (e.g. the meagre 7% conversion rate for freebie claimants -> paying customers).

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Not only would Epic and Apple be pissed that the documents are coming out, but all the other corporations which were dragged into this are also probably furious.

 

[Shard Shinjuku]

Not only would Epic and Apple be pissed that the documents are coming out, but all the other corporations which were dragged into this are also probably furious.

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We know Valve was unhappy about getting dragged into this.

 

[Deleted member 3190]

Tim Epic to Yves Ubisoft about Division 2 fraud.

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Dear Yves,

I'm writing to apologize for the shortcomings in our Epic Games store implementation and our Uplay integration.

In the past 48 hours, the rate of fraudulent transactions on Division 2 surpassed 70% and was approaching 90%. Sophisticated hackers were creating Epic accounts, buying Ubisoft games with stolen credit cards, and then selling the linked Uplay accounts faster than we were disabling linked Uplay purchases for fraud.

Fraud rates for other Epic games store titles are under 2% and Fortnite is under 1%. So 70% fraud was an extraordinary situation.

To stop the fraud, we disabled purchasing of Ubisoft games. We will make our best efforts to restore service as quickly as we can. This depends on (1) a real-time system for disabling refunded and fraudulent purchases on Uplay, and (2) anti-fraud improvements in Epic's service. This work will likely take at least 2 weeks to complete.

The fault in this situation is entirely Epic's, and all of the minimum revenue guarantees remain in place to ensure our performance.

I'm sorry for the trouble,

Tim Sweeney

Epic Games

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via https://app.box.com/s/6b9wmjvr582c95uzma1136exumk6p989/file/806843549406

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I can't remember, at the time did we learn why the Uplay purchases were disabled? I remember people speculating about Ubisoft not wanting to participate in the sale at the time.

 

[nihilence]

That fraud number is crazy sounding.

 

[strudelkuchen]

I can't remember, at the time did we learn why the Uplay purchases were disabled? I remember people speculating about Ubisoft not wanting to participate in the sale at the time.

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Not sure, but now we probably know why.

 

[SteveWinwood]

Tim Epic to Yves Ubisoft about Division 2 fraud.

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Dear Yves,

I'm writing to apologize for the shortcomings in our Epic Games store implementation and our Uplay integration.

In the past 48 hours, the rate of fraudulent transactions on Division 2 surpassed 70% and was approaching 90%. Sophisticated hackers were creating Epic accounts, buying Ubisoft games with stolen credit cards, and then selling the linked Uplay accounts faster than we were disabling linked Uplay purchases for fraud.

Fraud rates for other Epic games store titles are under 2% and Fortnite is under 1%. So 70% fraud was an extraordinary situation.

To stop the fraud, we disabled purchasing of Ubisoft games. We will make our best efforts to restore service as quickly as we can. This depends on (1) a real-time system for disabling refunded and fraudulent purchases on Uplay, and (2) anti-fraud improvements in Epic's service. This work will likely take at least 2 weeks to complete.

The fault in this situation is entirely Epic's, and all of the minimum revenue guarantees remain in place to ensure our performance.

I'm sorry for the trouble,

Tim Sweeney

Epic Games

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via https://app.box.com/s/6b9wmjvr582c95uzma1136exumk6p989/file/806843549406

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jesus christ

 

[Irrotational]

Not only would Epic and Apple be pissed that the documents are coming out, but all the other corporations which were dragged into this are also probably furious.

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I still find that wild, I still have no idea how a civil suit between two companies can force a bunch of other companies to disclose stuff about their revenue and sensitive info, but i am not a lawyer and clearly there was a way, because it has happened!

 

[spam musubi]

Tim Epic to Yves Ubisoft about Division 2 fraud.

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Dear Yves,

I'm writing to apologize for the shortcomings in our Epic Games store implementation and our Uplay integration.

In the past 48 hours, the rate of fraudulent transactions on Division 2 surpassed 70% and was approaching 90%. Sophisticated hackers were creating Epic accounts, buying Ubisoft games with stolen credit cards, and then selling the linked Uplay accounts faster than we were disabling linked Uplay purchases for fraud.

Fraud rates for other Epic games store titles are under 2% and Fortnite is under 1%. So 70% fraud was an extraordinary situation.

To stop the fraud, we disabled purchasing of Ubisoft games. We will make our best efforts to restore service as quickly as we can. This depends on (1) a real-time system for disabling refunded and fraudulent purchases on Uplay, and (2) anti-fraud improvements in Epic's service. This work will likely take at least 2 weeks to complete.

The fault in this situation is entirely Epic's, and all of the minimum revenue guarantees remain in place to ensure our performance.

I'm sorry for the trouble,

Tim Sweeney

Epic Games

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via https://app.box.com/s/6b9wmjvr582c95uzma1136exumk6p989/file/806843549406

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This sounds like it needs its own thread tbh

 

[Briareos]

That fraud number is crazy sounding.

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It reflects a specific set of actors exploiting mechanisms that were discovered at that time. People need to remember that cheating/fraud/etc. on games is an enormous business for criminal actors, and they treat it as such. There will have been wholesalers selling methodology to "retail storefront" fraud groups, etc., and they would be looking to maximize revenue before the hole is closed.

 

[Randomly Generated]

I still find that wild, I still have no idea how a civil suit between two companies can force a bunch of other companies to disclose stuff about their revenue and sensitive info, but i am not a lawyer and clearly there was a way, because it has happened!

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Yeah, this still blows my mind, especially with a private company like Valve.

 

[Kyougar]

This sounds like it needs its own thread tbh

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Just do it :>

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Walmarts Cloud Gaming service "Project Storm"

Walmart’s unannounced cloud gaming service detailed in confidential Epic emails [Codenamed Project Storm] News

Walmart’s unannounced cloud gaming service, codenamed Project Storm, has been detailed in new confidential emails. An exhibit in the Epic Games v. Apple trial reveals Walmart’s efforts to pitch its cloud gaming service to Epic Games and get Fortnite on board. Walmart was planning what it...

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[Xater]

This lawsuit is just a gold mine for seeing how the sausage is being made. Material for podcasts and articles for weeks if not months as well.

 

[spam musubi]

Just do it :>

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Another Update added to first post:
Walmarts Cloud Gaming service "Project Storm"

Walmart’s unannounced cloud gaming service detailed in confidential Epic emails [Codenamed Project Storm] News

Walmart’s unannounced cloud gaming service, codenamed Project Storm, has been detailed in new confidential emails. An exhibit in the Epic Games v. Apple trial reveals Walmart’s efforts to pitch its cloud gaming service to Epic Games and get Fortnite on board. Walmart was planning what it...

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On mobile for the rest of the day, it's painful to make new threads. That being said the Walmart cloud service is the most left field of all this stuff.

 

[SteveWinwood]

On mobile for the rest of the day, it's painful to make new threads. That being said the Walmart cloud service is the most left field of all this stuff.

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I made a thread for ya. I'm trying to find Exhibit DX-3756 if anyone has that handy. It seems to be related. The box link never seems to work for me.

 

[Kyougar]

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Tim Sweeney's apology email to Yves Guillemot shows a 70-90% fraudulent transaction rate on EGS for The Division 2

Thanks to strudelkuchen for pointing it out in the documents thread. --- Dear Yves, I'm writing to apologize for the shortcomings in our Epic Games store implementation and our Uplay integration. In the past 48 hours, the rate of fraudulent transactions on Division 2 surpassed 70% and was...

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Nintendo bars Japanese partners from working with the Yakuza

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.364265/gov.uscourts.cand.364265.554.1.pdf

Epic Vs. Apple Docs: Nintendo Specifically Bars Japanese Partners From Working With the Yakuza

https://www.ign.com/articles/nintendo-specifically-bars-japanese-partners-from-working-with-yakuza?utm_source=twitter

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[Kyougar]

 

[Deleted member 2379]

Epic only makes like $100M in revenue a year from ios on Fortnite.

They essentially are fighting this battle with Apple because it has the smallest impact to their actual bottom line from getting shut out.

https://app.box.com/s/6b9wmjvr582c95uzma1136exumk6p989/file/806840974999

 

[Kyougar]

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Phil Spencer on xcloud on other consoles.

Phil Spencer to Tim Sweeney in August 2020: "haven't given up" on xCloud for other consoles

In reply to Tim Sweeney trying to hard-sell Phil on dropping F2P Gold paywall to align with the 1984 "fireworks" show lmao

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[Senator Toadstool]

As someone studying/looking to go into entertainment law this is going to be great. Can't wait to dig into them after finals are over and I graduate next week! thanks for the thread.

Its cool to see the software contracts as I'm familiar with film/tv contracts and deals but never had professors in software.

 

[toy_brain]

Thanks for making the thread!

Man, I'm beginning to wish I'd taken this week off, because this stuff is pure popcorn to me.
Also, I'm gonna check out the Hoeg Law YouTube channel for the next couple weeks, because I know he'll be digging through all this stuff too.

 

[Dave.]

Kyougar There's also this one wherein Phil expresses similar concerns to Sony about losing out on MTX revenue, as posted by Theorry

We do know from Tim's statements that they did not implement a similar playtime/revenue ratio deal as with Sony, but I don't think we know what they did agree to (if anything).

 

[Kinthey]

Is there an explanation for why so much stuff is coming to light? This almost reminds one of a data breach. A lot of this doesn't even seem relevant to the Apple case.

Also, can we expect a similar insight into Apple?

 

[ZugZug123]

Thank you, OP! So many leaks and finds in just 2 days it was hard to keep track.

 

[poklane]

Fortnite revenue per platform, per year (link also has a per month breakdown): https://app.box.com/s/6b9wmjvr582c95uzma1136exumk6p989/file/806841031998

*In millions of dollars obviously
Source for the link itself: https://twitter.com/simoncarless/status/1389676378857955328

 

[Xater]

Is there an explanation for why so much stuff is coming to light? This almost reminds one of a data breach. A lot of this doesn't even seem relevant to the Apple case.

Also, can we expect a similar insight into Apple?

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According to the Warren tweet it was supposed to be sealed documentation but someone fucked up.

 

[SunshinePuppies]

Do yall think companies (devs/pubs) both big and small that weren't supposed to be privy to this info will take notice?

 

[Kinthey]

According to the Warren tweet it was supposed to be sealed documentation but someone fucked up.

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Oh man, I wouldn't want to be whoever was responsible.

Fortnite revenue per platform, per year (link also has a per month breakdown): https://app.box.com/s/6b9wmjvr582c95uzma1136exumk6p989/file/806841031998

*In millions of dollars obviously
Source for the link itself: https://twitter.com/simoncarless/status/1389676378857955328

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That explosion from 2017 to 2018. And surprising how relatively small mobile is, but I guess it's a game most people want to play with a controller or mouse, so going for console or pc is the simpler way

 

[Ox Code]

There's enough threads about this case happening that it might push this thread down. I'm wondering if this thread in particular should be a stickied post?

 

[Katana_Strikes]

Considering Android is more popular than iOS (although that may not be the case on how many devices can actually run Fortnite) and it being open platform, they make a piddly amount there. But also goes back to the fact iOS owners are more likely to buy stuff on their platform than Android ("where everything is free").

 

[Zen Hero]

This is all fascinating stuff, I feel like I'm learning so much. Thanks for the thread!

Out of curiosity, are these actually "leaked" or are they deliberately publicly released as part of the court process? I'm just wondering how this hasn't been taken down yet if it was leaked, etc.

 

[Milk]

I love this. All of the Sweenster's stats are out for the world to see. And he's dragging other industry partners in too. What a glorious shitshow.

 

[Katana_Strikes]

It's kind of ironic that mostly all the platforms that are walled gardens (the ones the are supposedly bad for consumers and companies) are the ones that are making bank. Whilst the open platforms (where piracy runs rampant) are really not pulling their weight despite their user bases size.

 

[Brrandon]

Considering Android is more popular than iOS (although that may not be the case on how many devices can actually run Fortnite) and it being open platform, they make a piddly amount there. But also goes back to the fact iOS owners are more likely to buy stuff on their platform than Android ("where everything is free").

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I think thats mainly because its not on the play store. Highly doubt a lot of kids would go out of their way to enable and install an APK