I'm sorry, did we not read the same thread? Cause people are and have been talking about the cut the whole thread. Did you just read someone saying "people will ignore this" and skip the rest of the discussion?
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Epic Store gift cards are hard to implement because they are based on stores that take a higher cut, like Steam’s 30%
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I really think it is just trouble for everyone involved.
I understand the point of gift cards only for people who cant buy the digital games in a better way, otherwise its just an inconvenience.
I didnt think any more than a few % of the revenue would come from gift cards, but if people say data shows otherwise I will believe it.
All of these posts pretty much nails it. Most of us have been saying for years that there's a reason for the 30% cut and that 12% was not really sustainable, and Timmy here just confirms it. Yet funnily enough, he makes it seems as if it's the 30% cut that is too much and not 12% that's too low. He's so disingenuous.
From Valve's point of view, Steam wallet cards are the main driver of getting people into the ecosystem (or holding them) that don't want or can't use digital purchases. Gifting cards (through online sales) is an afterthought.
I just wanna comment regarding people questioning the 'need' for gift cards...
Thanks to gift cards I can purchase games where i live. Credit cards have issues with international transactions in Pakistan. So shit like buying in game items locally to sell it in the STEAM community market place for STEAM Wallet Money or buy STEAM Gift locally and redeem them for STEAM Wallet Funds...
Gift cards physical or digital are a massive convenience for Customers like me. It adds to the ability of me buying games and legally playing games. Its in the dev's and the pub's best interest to support that. Anyone arguing against gift cards in general has no idea how useful is its utility in Non US regions.
Gift cards regardless are a huge benefit for customers and EGS for w/e reason not getting them is a big loss for the customer. Some of Y'all talking about the gift card system being a work of its own to keep up but Epic has lots of money to burn. Why can't they invest in this critical feature instead of wasting all of their cash on exclusivity deals?
Thanks to gift cards I can purchase games where i live. Credit cards have issues with international transactions in Pakistan. So shit like buying in game items locally to sell it in the STEAM community market place for STEAM Wallet Money or buy STEAM Gift locally and redeem them for STEAM Wallet Funds...
Gift cards physical or digital are a massive convenience for Customers like me. It adds to the ability of me buying games and legally playing games. Its in the dev's and the pub's best interest to support that. Anyone arguing against gift cards in general has no idea how useful is its utility in Non US regions.
Gift cards regardless are a huge benefit for customers and EGS for w/e reason not getting them is a big loss for the customer. Some of Y'all talking about the gift card system being a work of its own to keep up but Epic has lots of money to burn. Why can't they invest in this critical feature instead of wasting all of their cash on exclusivity deals?
I know you're being sarcastic but..
If you just want to give out free shit then not encourage customers to buy games on your store then sure :P
Free games are great though, for people who do not care for a convenient shopping and playing experience on PC.
If I were getting into PC gaming just now I'd love Epic game store too for its free games. Its one of a kind in that respect.
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This makes sense but its Epic Games Store so we must be super mad about it anyway and call him a liar.
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And people are right to be mad ?
Yes, it makes sense that a 12% margin means you cant have cards because thier own margins are already at 15%.
But why are people mad a EGS ? Because they claim you can run a store at a 12% margin and even lower in the long run without impacting the services or the customers. Which people have been saying it's false for years.
And guess what ? Yes, tim himself admits it.
The very owner of the Epic Games Store literally admits that their "pro developer" cut makes it harder for them to deliver a customer facing feature
"WOW PEOPLE REALLY ARE MAD AT THE EGS FOR NO REASON"
"WOW PEOPLE REALLY ARE MAD AT THE EGS FOR NO REASON"
You read all the comments/facts that people have made and thats the reply you thought was worth your time?
Regarding "the effort to make the economics work"
1. They simply eat the 3% loss.
2. They demand retailers to take a <=12% cut on these cards
3. They overcharge these cards (ex: 100€ wallet = 115€ MSRP)
4. They selectively raise the cut the EGS takes to >=15% for all purchases that were bought via gift card money
5. They raise the cut they take of everything.
6. They don't offer retail cards at all.
1. They simply eat the 3% loss.
2. They demand retailers to take a <=12% cut on these cards
3. They overcharge these cards (ex: 100€ wallet = 115€ MSRP)
4. They selectively raise the cut the EGS takes to >=15% for all purchases that were bought via gift card money
5. They raise the cut they take of everything.
6. They don't offer retail cards at all.