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Epic Games Store features roadmap
- Thread starter Geode
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Lot of this stuff should've been there day 1, but better late than never I guess....
Lol imagine that.
The situation is not unlike when Microsoft moneyhatted Tomb Raider and people were furious.
There are multiple threads and posts, here and elsewhere, about why the actions of Epic are shitty. That you aren't reading them and trivializing it as the same thing as console warring is a problem with your interpretation of it. Not the discussion surrounding it all.
Epic Games Store Client 9.10.3 patch notes said:
Wow, they're really not having any of PC Gaming Era and /r/pcgaming's trash talk, I see ;)
/s
To be honest, some of the responses here are frankly just as disappointing.
Transparency is supposed to be a good thing. And this shows there's a roadmap to keep improving their store.
The responses here...
Those actions have nothing to do with a feature roadmap. And in all the topics you cite, people keep saying they wished Epic had competed on features vs 'moneyhatting'.
All the snark about a shopping cart being available in 6 months. Meanwhile Xbox Live only got Shopping Cart and Wish list in Q4 2018, well over a decade after the store launch. And nobody died.
In a year it appears as if the EGS will be closer to steam feature wise. Not close but closer.
Also, where on earth did they get the idea for an "Epic Games Overlay"? ORGINAL IDEA, DO NOT STEAL.
Also, where on earth did they get the idea for an "Epic Games Overlay"? ORGINAL IDEA, DO NOT STEAL.
I assume you know that from experience?
My point is, unless you are a programmer and work on these kind of large scale projects for a living, then you have no right to say whether or not it is 'basic'.
Then why have I had users try and tell me that this is just as bad as having to buy a different game system for an exclusive game?
Given the comparatively low volume of content that is in the store and will be for the coming months it's not really a surprise that a shopping cart isn't a high priority. Most people aren't buying multiple games at once from the store, so it's more convenient right now to just buy directly from a game's page than it is to add it to a cart and then check out. In the few cases where people are going on shipping sprees, they can just check out twice for now.
That response in particular was about why EGS vs Steam is not the same thing as Sony vs Microsoft, not the features roadmap. If the worst thing Epic was doing in all of this was have a barebones store, I wouldn't give a shit and I'd support them with my money.
Yup, this is by far the most nuclear, toxic subject in a while. I don't get it. It's possible people will let this go in 6 months when features are actually pretty close, but right now the "gamers rise up" over a store front launcher is embarrassing.
Dynamic pricing on bundles is pretty cool.
Sometimes I don't wanna buy one cause one or two games I already own are in it.
Sometimes I don't wanna buy one cause one or two games I already own are in it.
the fact that it is standardized to storefronts at this point would suggest so
its really just database management in any case, its not complicated stuff
To be fair this is a launcher that scrapes peoples private data and actively goes against another programs API/permissions settings to read this data. That alone should be enough to give them shit over, regardless of the moneyhatting for exclusives. It blows my mind that Epic are essentially getting a free pass over it and not being raked over the coals for that alone. Tim Sweeneys bullshitting is just another bit of icing on the shit cake.
-Features still won't be close
-Phoenix Point situation is perfect definition of "toxic"
-A million other points recanted over dozens of threads with hundreds of thousands of views
-Still doesn't get it
Ok
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Any thoughts on the store or just driving by and passing judgement?
my ignore list has increased by the hundreds over it. I have little to no tolerance for gamer rage
Hopefully gifting not having a date attached to it doesn't mean it's more than a year away.
I tried to gift someone Metro Exodus and was pretty surprised to see there was no way.
I tried to gift someone Metro Exodus and was pretty surprised to see there was no way.
Every time you buy or claim something it prompts you to give the publisher your email so I bet that might be why there's no cart, because if you were to buy multiple games at once it would look off putting to have multiple checkboxes for giving your email to publishers.
The eShop doesn't have one. I got called by my bank once because I bought 4 games in a row, triggering their alarm for the amount of transactions in a short time.
Heh, yeah, same!
On topic: I applaud Epic's bid to give Steam its first serious competition in this space in years, and having this open road map is cool! Gives me confidence that it's going places.
.Well considering you never address anyone's points and just ignorantly post on something you don't see to understand I see why you would ignore people.
So in a year if it doesn't go places and it's still crap, will you still be giving them the benefit of the doubt? They don't deserve it.
Did you ignore my quote of you or are you just choosing to interact with those who appear to agree with you?
I bet you, they are just choosing to interact with someone he agrees with instead of actual addressing your points.
There are completely valid reasons for why PC gamers are upset.
Quite pitiful, as already stated, the recently added search feature was completely half-assed, so I expect any future added features to be equally half-baked. Plus, all these features should have freaking launched with a store in 2019.... This isn't 2005 FFS. I can understand game controller API and built-in mod support taking allot of time to implement, but most of the features are relatively straightforward and no brainers to already have been implemented.
Ok, I'll address your points:
- They'll be good enough. I don't care about 90% of Steam features.
- Don't care. I would do the same as Phoenix in their position.
- Again, I don't care and don't agree with those ten billion Gamers Rising Up
And, most importantly, I don't like how toxic the discussions of this have become. There's zero room for being positive.
I'm an indie developer and really don't like that Steam is my only viable option. I am rooting for Epic to at least make Valve compete on publisher share. If Steam were to increase publisher share because of the new competition then Epic will have my immense respect.
-Ok. I use them, some even like game sharing and gifting with my friends and family. EGS doesn't have to be feature complete compared to steam, I'd settle for GOG Galaxy at this point.
-Well, your honest about the Pnoenix point situation. I understand that being a developer is precarious. Contempt for your investors is a thing though and the crowdfunding bridge has been burned for them for forever. It might work out, it might not in the long run but not a great situation for backers.
-So, long and short, you don't care and you hold your potential customers in a form of mild contempt.
What is the positive for someone interested in purchasing a game? So far, only positives mentioned are hypothetical and off in the future. The positive for a developer is easy, more money, up front and in the future. I could see EGS turning it around in five years no problem and hey, VTM:BL II is on EGS and Steam, so maybe competition will be reality in the future. So far, I've been turned off from EGS and I have not even downloaded the client for free games.
But your only contribution to this topic thus far has been to say "I don't believe in this roadmap".
How is he supposed to address this?
Unless you have insider information or significant development experience, that's a baseless thing to say.
There are tons of threads already where venting that anger would be considered on theme. This is a topic about a transparent update roadmap.
Much of this is bad-faith snark, anyway, since in most of the EGS topics, many of those complaining here cite storefront features as a better way to compete with Steam.
It's not my point I was referring to but seeing his reply to jkm23 tells me all it needs to Why am i suppose to have any faith in epic improving their storefront? There's no reason to believe they will hit the dates and not half ass it.
I have programmed a shopping cart for a webstore before, yes. With security in mind. It absolutely shouldn't take 6+ months for experienced devs..
Between their work on Unreal engine and how well they've executed Fortnite, its hard not to have confidence in Epic's ability to manage projects.
Those devs are most certainly working on other features in that time. Nobody's working full time on a shopping cart.
The 6 month delay reflects the priority of a shopping cart. As has been said earlier, Xbox Live just got a cart November 2018. The e-shop doesn't even have one.
A better search experience is much higher priority than a shopping cart, I'd wager.
I just don't see why anyone should have faith in their store and the roadmap. I expect it to be half assed at the best especially with their responses regarding the epic game store.