Epic Games has acquired Rocket League developer Psyonix [Up: No Announced Plans to Stop Selling Rocket League on Steam] [Read Staff Post & Threadmark]

Delusibeta · May 1, 2019

Dreams-Visions said:
"The statement reads a bit vague as to what will happen to Rocket League on Steam after it arrives on the Epic Games Store later this year. The wording suggests that while it may not be available on Steam, Rocket League would still be supported. "

So nothing has really been confirmed or changed. The concern remains.

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We reached out to Epic Games and Psyonix who have offered this clarification: "We are continuing to sell Rocket League on Steam, and have not announced plans to stop selling the game there." An Epic spokesperson added, "Rocket League remains available for new purchasers on Steam, and long-term plans will be announced in the future."

While it's not "we are definitely going to keep selling Rocket League on Steam indefinitely", it is an improvement on the original statement, which did heavily imply that Rocket League was going to be removed from Steam as soon as it launches on the Epic Games Store (and, judging by Segey's twitter, was most likely the plan).

So, we shall see. Either way, if you're interested in playing Rocket League on Linux, I'd still say nab the game sharpish.

Yarbskoo · May 1, 2019

I just hope this doesn't negatively affect the working conditions at Psyonix.

neon/drifter · May 1, 2019

SFLUFAN said:
Absolutely nothing.

Just noticed the update. Whew!

rebelcrusader · May 1, 2019

ShrtAttnGmr said:
I tried RL and couldn't get into it, but I guess I assumed that it has run its course in terms of sales at this point. What will this really do for Rocket League?

Rocket league is a nuts huge game

I also didn't care for it

--R · May 1, 2019

I don't see anywhere where Epic says they won't stop selling it. What an unfortunate title edit, really. If anything, this just fits more with what The Verge said.

Tuco Benedicto Pacifico · May 1, 2019

eonden said:
If true, that was a fast backtrack LMAO

The magic word people should pay attention to is "announced".
They aren't backtracking about anything. Just being as vague as possible to buy some time.

Fat4all · May 1, 2019

Epic Games has acquired Rocket League developer Psyonix [Up: Rocket League will NOT be taken off Steam][Up:Up: Rocket League will not NOT be taken off Steam][Up:Up:Up: Rocket League will be steampunk] [READ STAFF POST, THREADMARK, THE MANGA]

KingSnake · May 1, 2019

Ok, now the title is fixed.

Dreams-Visions · May 1, 2019

Delusibeta said:
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While it's not "we are definitely going to keep selling Rocket League on Steam indefinitely", it is an improvement on the original statement, which did heavily imply that Rocket League was going to be removed from Steam as soon as it launches on the Epic Games Store (and, judging by Segey's twitter, was most likely the plan).

So, we shall see. Either way, if you're interested in playing Rocket League on Linux, I'd still say nab the game sharpish.

Indeed we shall. Hopefully they don't set such a new, ugly precedent. It's really uncalled for to stop sale of the game on Steam. Just make RL2 exclusive to EGS. That's perfectly acceptable given the game has not been announced and will undoubtedly benefit from Epic money as it is developed.

Avitus · May 1, 2019

No Announced Plans

Anyone really falling for this wordsmithing? Come on now.

Bishop89 · May 1, 2019

Aokiji said:

I love how we have a cool gif like that for acquisitions lol bursted out laughing 😂

Congrats to the team I guess, if that's what they really wanted.

Joffy · May 1, 2019

Argh wtf, I had to reread that headline multiple times to make sure I wasn't misunderstanding. That sucks big time and I'm not even a big detractor of the store.

Hektor said:
They would if they could.
The reason for that being that EpicGames is literally not capable of selling them on their own sorry storefront because of how shit it is.

That is too funny. How on earth does intend to compete with Steam when they can only add a handful of games a week. This store is nearly 6 months old now, how is that even a thing.

Demacabre · May 1, 2019

Fat4all said:
Epic Games has acquired Rocket League developer Psyonix [Up: Rocket League will NOT be taken off Steam][Up:Up: Rocket League will not NOT be taken off Steam][Up:Up:Up: Rocket League will be steampunk] [READ STAFF POST, THREADMARK, THE MANGA]

Fat4all

I am still slightly pissed by this thread but god damn do you make me laugh sometimes. Good show!

Peemz · May 1, 2019

Kingpin Rogers said:
Cool, hopefully we can get a RL2 sooner rather than later now then since they have a real backing. Wonder if it'll come to Steam though?

Really?
Ok

etta · May 1, 2019

I've never not purchased a game or any product from a seller out of sheer disgust from their dirty practices. Until now.

Ghostwalker · May 1, 2019

Hamchan said:
It's totally coming off Steam eventually. That's the way Epic operates, why would they change?

I think Epic would love to take it off Steam.

However I am not sure if they can, looking at all the branded deals that are Rocket Legue has it's DLC and I expect they will need to get concent from all them to move the game of Steam.

Doskoi Panda · May 1, 2019

Bishop89 said:
I love how we have a cool gif like that for acquisitions lol bursted out laughing 😂

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Khamsinvera · May 1, 2019

Breqesk said:
what

It's a Game of Thrones reference

Josecitox · May 1, 2019

Hobbes said:
Lets play this game.

EGS achieves market dominance. As a result, they decide to raise the prices on video games to $100. Nobody buys the games on EGS because they are now too expensive. EGS loses money. A lot of money. The developer loses money. The publisher loses money. Just about everyone involved loses so much money that people start being laid off, and then you have a domino affect that a massive flop starts.

That leads EGS to listing games at $100 and not selling very many. And the developers behind them can't pay their light bill. So how do they remedy this? Well either the exclusivity with Epic covers them entirely, or they pull out and sell their game *checks notes* on another platform where people will buy their game.

Like. These scenarios don't exist in the realm of reality. Y'all are so cynical you cannot even perceive reality.

Exactly.

God forbid some people here ever own a business.

kmg90 · May 1, 2019

Hektor said:
They would if they could.
The reason for that being that EpicGames is literally not capable of selling them on their own sorry storefront because of how shit it is.

Adding games (including their own) delays updates for other games.....

What year is it?

Really puts confidence in using their store.

That's what you get with a low store cut... Shit storefront.

It's why I believe the 30% cut for steam is fair... Valve offers a lot features for developers (and users)

¡ B 0 0 P ! · May 1, 2019

Removing the game from Steam would be a scum move. I'm surprised Epic was arrogant enough to think people would be okay with that.

Deleted member 426 · May 1, 2019

jett said:
Protip: at no time during their backpedal has Epic actually said they will in fact not take Rocket League off Steam.

Yeah I'm still reading all their comments as 'we're not announcing anything yet but basically it's coming off steam'.

Dreams-Visions · May 1, 2019

Joffy said:
Argh wtf, I had to reread that headline multiple times to make sure I wasn't misunderstanding. That sucks big time and I'm not even a big detractor of the store.

That is too funny. How on earth does intend to compete with Steam when they can only add a handful of games a week. This store is nearly 6 months old now, how is that even a thing.

well...massive curation appears to be the plan.

My guess is that EGS will only ever target relatively heavy hitters. AA and AAA games. Even the indie games that make the cut will be among the biggest indie game releases. All things considered, I'm surprised they missed Risk of Rain 2, but I assume EGS doesn't really do early access games like that (Unreal Tournament notwithstanding). But yea, they may become the defacto place to play a fair amount of really big-name titles. In fact, that is already true to some degree with Fortnite, Metro (kinda), Division 2 (kinda), and Borderlands 3.

Deleted member 17990 · May 1, 2019

Yikes.

Dreams-Visions · May 1, 2019

Josecitox said:
Exactly.

God forbid some people here ever own a business.

God forbid consumers are critical of a business that has repeatedly presented itself as anti-consumer and hostile to the existing culture of PC gaming while offering next to no advantages for said consumers and competes by removing choice.

Oops sorry. Didn't mean to interrupt your shilling. Carry on, soldier. o7

z1ggy · May 1, 2019

So the store is so shitty that they have to manually update games? lmao

Bishop89 · May 1, 2019

Solid said:

😂 That works too haha

Myradeer · May 1, 2019

eonden said:
I want to add that the PR Head of EGS (Sergey) gloated about the purchase with this gif:

So it is clearly a backtrack.

Was he smart enough to delete it? Can`t find it now.

Pyro · May 1, 2019

So this means no one can complain about Rocket League 2 being exclusive to Steam right? Right?

Edit: I meant EGS, I was in a hurry to get to class when I typed this :)

Deleted member 22585 · May 1, 2019

Interesting move. Rocket League is one of my favorite games ever, love it so much. I don't have a problem even if it goes to the epic store as long as I can take my progress with me.
Curious to see what it will mean for the games future.

eonden · May 1, 2019

Myradeer said:
Was he smart enough to delete it? Can`t find it now.

Still there:
https://dtf.ru/gameindustry/48783-epic-games-kupila-studiyu-razrabotchika-rocket-league

Dreams-Visions · May 1, 2019

Pyro said:
So this means no one can complain about Rocket League 2 being exclusive to Steam right? Right?

Yes, that's right. That's perfectly fair and how it works. It will be a 1st party title, and mostly funded by Epic money.

joeblow · May 1, 2019

BronsonLee said:

Whoa, I thought my post was pretty good, but didn't even begin to think that someone would consider it fantastic. I appreciate the compliment.

chadskin · May 1, 2019

Perhaps Valve should disable the ability to buy the game on Steam until Epic figures out what it wants to do.

P A Z · May 1, 2019

Lmao @ people buying the backtrack.

The clarification is perfectly worded, a quick surface skim and it looks like they've listened, read between the lines and it basically says "we haven't decided yet how and when we're going to do the thing you know we're going to do. Stay tuned!"

JigglesBunny · May 1, 2019

Oh, fucking hell. This could literally only be worse if Activision bought them.

Courage · May 1, 2019

ShadowSoldier89 said:
because consumers lose out on growth of overall featuresets for games. Devs lose out on featuresets for them that simplify game development. Valve has reinvested their cut greatly back into its stores featuresets in ways that have greatly benefited developers. Steamworks API is miles ahead of any other distribution and hosting platform.

Consumers of course lose the most here, but there has been testimonies (on this forum even) from devs that steam's cut has been justified with how much they provide.

I'd be curious to read these tesimonies then, because from what I've seen, many indie devs would still prefer a higher cut than anything else.

Dreams-Visions · May 1, 2019

chadskin said:
Perhaps Valve should disable the ability to buy the game on Steam until Epic figures out what it wants to do.

No reason to be petty. That would only hurt consumers, which Valve is clearly not interested in doing.

pazinyo said:
Lmao @ people buying the backtrack.

The clarification is perfectly worded, a quick surface skim and it looks like they've listened, read between the lines and it basically says "we haven't decided yet how and when we're going to do the thing you know we're going to do. Stay tuned!"

FWIW, the mod did correct the thread title. Now...well, some reading and conjecture is required. Either way, we'll find out soon enough. People who want it on Steam and don't have it should probably make a buying decisions sooner rather than later.

voOsh · May 1, 2019

Courage said:
I'd be curious to read these tesimonies then, because from what I've seen, many indie devs would still prefer a higher cut than anything else.

Most indie devs have no way to get onto EGS right now. Everything is hand-selected by Epic. So far it seems like you need an established property or have a portfolio of well-performing games to get onto EGS.

DeuceGamer · May 1, 2019

Wonder how much they paid for RocketLeague and Psyonix.

Jerm · May 1, 2019

Rocket League is cancelled

Dreams-Visions · May 1, 2019

voOsh said:
Most indie devs have no way to get onto EGS right now. Everything is hand-selected by Epic. So far it seems like you need an established property or have a portfolio of well-performing games to get onto EGS.

If it weren't for the situation with Metro and Borderlands 3, I think that model would go over really well.

A curated store where only some of the very best games will appear, free of confusion and clutter. Such a model will obviously miss many diamonds in the rough, but at least most games would be pretty solid.

Arm Van Dam · May 1, 2019

eonden said:
Still there:
https://dtf.ru/gameindustry/48783-epic-games-kupila-studiyu-razrabotchika-rocket-league

At this point, SteamSpy is conflict of interest to Sergey

eonden · May 1, 2019

Arm Van Dam said:
At this point, SteamSpy is conflict of interest to Sergey

Yeah, I have said several times that it is quite big of an ethical problem to be earning money from what can be basically considered spying on a rival. The guy should have spun out SteamSpy and gave it to a friend / colleague to follow on once he signed up as lead PR guy in EGS (or at least when the store was unveilled).

DavidDesu · May 1, 2019

This game has been getting better and better since it released, for sure. I'm dreading the day it starts going downhill and the golden times are over. I've ignored all of the money making shenanigans and so long as they can keep that stuff ignorable then fine.

Off topic though, has anyone had issues since the latest round of updates on PS4 Pro? I was sure one update completely messed up the game for me, so much that I fucked with my controller settings and it took me ages to finely tune them back to how it felt before. Game still feels off slightly and I feel like it stutters or even skips frames or something. Just feels a bit less solid as it did as of a couple of weeks ago.

Godfather · May 1, 2019

Questionable Giraffe said:
From my own perspective it's not a huge deal, but it's more a matter of principle and concern regarding the continuous support of the Steam-version.

One thing I know for sure would get annoying is when/if a friend eventually gains interest in Rocket League (or whatever the case may be) in the future, we'll have to invite and communicate outside of the platform we're playing on since I can't invite them via Steam and I can't chat with them via Steam. It may be a minor inconvenience in the grand scheme of things but it certainly impacts the way I'm playing and purchasing games.

To be fair to RL they did introduce a rocket ID for cross platform partying that works well so far.

z1ggy · May 1, 2019

Sergey doesnt care about ethics and whatnot, he wont leave behind those free 14k dollars per month from steamspy patreon

jelly · May 1, 2019

Must have been a nice sum and opportunity to grow the IP, can't imagine the devs aren't already minted from the success?

Courage · May 1, 2019

voOsh said:
Most indie devs have no way to get onto EGS right now. Everything is hand-selected by Epic. So far it seems like you need an established property or have a portfolio of well-performing games to get onto EGS.

Increasing cut to devs isn't exclusive to the EGS.

scitek · May 1, 2019

eonden said:
I want to add that the PR Head of EGS (Sergey) gloated about the purchase with this gif:

So it is clearly a backtrack.

Why do so many gaming companies have douchebags as PR guys?

Like, the point of your job is to not make your company look like greedy assholes.

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