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Epic Games announces new games coming to the Epic Store (Samurai Shodown, Totally Reliable Delivery Service etc.)
- Thread starter Chairmanchuck (另一个我)
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You're right. If I buy this game, I will be the only player on this entire green earth who will be playing it online. Absolutely zero other people will be playing it. Zilch. Nada. That's what you're saying?
All I asked for was a recommendation and you/the other person felt it necessary to shoehorn in hyperbole after I asked in my original post specifically not to.
I'll look into that, thanks. I'll probably watch some gameplay videos and see if there's any comparisons because I'm about as casual as it gets with fighting games.
SamSho is pretty much DOA at this point.
it's a super late port of a game that isn't getting that much attention these days even on the competitive scene, coming out on a different storefront than like every other SNK release for the past decade, and launching with no crossplay and shit netcode.
you hate to see it happen
it's a super late port of a game that isn't getting that much attention these days even on the competitive scene, coming out on a different storefront than like every other SNK release for the past decade, and launching with no crossplay and shit netcode.
you hate to see it happen
May as well not even include netplay as you will never ever find a match for Samurai Shodown.
Like a late PC port was already going to suffer greatly but this is just outright murder.
Like a late PC port was already going to suffer greatly but this is just outright murder.
They didn't say that though. The point being made was that you will have a hard time finding someone to play with online. Which was true of the PS4 version like a month after release, would be true of any steam version not long after the week of release, and will almost certainly be true of the egs version the day of release due to being a late port on a platform with relatively few users outside of people playing fortnite. The game has no crossplay and no rollback netcode. If it did, things would be different.
Suits probably had little faith in the PC port selling very well regardless so they decided to take the guaranteed bag.
I won't go into hyperbole or anything like that. But if this games doesn't have crossplay I'm quite sure there will be problems finding games, longer queues and they'll have to widen skill brackets, lopsiding those matches in the process in just a couuple of weeks. And that's if they even bother to do that. This game was in danger of that even releasing on Steam only with no crossplay, as even the PS4 version was having some issues there. At the EGS it's pretty much a certainty.
a few months after the PS4 launch, it was taking people close to 10 minutes to find *one* match (Sajam and Alex Valle both reported on this too)
this late port is going to be even worse
You're asking for a recommendation. I'm telling you if you plan to play online, maybe it's not a good idea. Plain and simple.
If this is the case, that sounds bad for the game as a whole. Was it just not successful? Or too niche?
It needed rollback netcode and/or crossplay. There would have been no issues then. It's just typical of pretty much all fighting games outside the major ones like SF/Tekken/MK/DB etc.
I understand that but SNK needs good PR to really get people to buy into the next KOF yet here we are with more negativity,I feel like they should have just been happy to have a small discord game as this game was never go to sell well without cross play or rollback and I assume the epic$ is pretty small.
All exclusive, minimum one year. Except perhaps the Control DLC.
Wow, SNK, you can go do one. Claiming that they turned down an exclusivity deal only to then be exclusive and way late despite a PC based version releasing on Stadia some time ago. Talking out of both sides of their mouth (saying they wouldn't take deals publicly while seemingly making deals with multiple parties) doesn't make me positively inclined to support them much in the future either.
Thing is, while it wouldn't do much for the appeal of the game in general, SNK's policy with regards to PC releases after KoF XIII has been self-sabotaging. Late ports released at full price, by which time the console versions can be picked up cheaper, and lack of crossplay stifle the growth of a PC community and make their titles unattractive. Moves like this will further antagonise the PC base and hurt them even more. Yes, they might make some cash in the short term, but it will likely prove to be a mistake in the long term as they won't be able to rely on generous moneyhats forever.
Thing is, while it wouldn't do much for the appeal of the game in general, SNK's policy with regards to PC releases after KoF XIII has been self-sabotaging. Late ports released at full price, by which time the console versions can be picked up cheaper, and lack of crossplay stifle the growth of a PC community and make their titles unattractive. Moves like this will further antagonise the PC base and hurt them even more. Yes, they might make some cash in the short term, but it will likely prove to be a mistake in the long term as they won't be able to rely on generous moneyhats forever.
Samurai Shodown finally comes to
PC now that it's hit the $10 bargain bin on PS4, and even appeared on Stadia.
It's like SNK doesn't care about SS at all.
PC now that it's hit the $10 bargain bin on PS4, and even appeared on Stadia.
It's like SNK doesn't care about SS at all.
Punchline to all this is that Epic probably offered SNK substantially less money second time round. It's a massive mess, and it's entirely SNK's fault.
It seems like indies are better off taking the deal even if they sell zero copies. Since their games always have a risk of actually selling near zero copies it's worth it just for your own sanity to take a lump sum. Besides, if they don't get a lot of coverage that would drive sales on EGS they can just release a year later on Steam and nobody will even know they were exclusive.
Yeah, I don't like this game being a potential EGS exclusive, but acting like this game bombed is just dumb.
I said that because many journalists and indie devs were repeating Epic PR talk how Epic Store will offer them better visibility and less competition.
Aside for the annoying condescending tone I'm not even sure who are these "PC gamers" you are talking to.
I didn't "ask for months" about shit, for instance. And if anything even a Steam release should have done some legwork to sell me on the game, by proving its quality.
An EGS-exclusive release on the other hand certifies that the purchase will not even be an option I will bother to consider.
And just in case you are wondering I don't feel a single bit apologetic about it.
True, the claim that it's more visibility should be put to the test but of course they're so secretive... Obligatory pointing at the hypocrisy of getting Sergey Galyonkin and not releasing numbers yourself...
dont forget division 2 and metro. I'm sure those 4 took a big chunk.
and they'll be all like "see the game didn't sell so how can we put in good netcode!? Fighting games are dead!"
Yeah the free games are the only reason I still have EGS installed and even then I usually forget to check it until I see a news article or Era post about the freebie refresh.
I just told my friend that samurai Shodown is finally coming to PC since he's been waiting for it since the game was announced. He pretty much only plays fighting games.
I then had to explain to him what the Epic Games Store is.
I then had to explain to him what the Epic Games Store is.
He said he's not really interested anymore. Not so much because of EGS, but because they took so long to bring it to PC. Typical SNK antics.
Yeah, but at least they had the decency to announce it as an EGS exclusive. Ignoring the bag of money (which is the only reason anyone signed on the dotted line, let's be honest), it's a deal that's aging like milk.
Dread Nautical is releasing on PS4, Xbox One and Switch on April 29 also
edit: I guess you mean PC, then ya, it's exclusive :P
Seems like whatever they do at this point, game will be deader than dead online.
Something puzzles me: isn't SNK's biggest potential market in China?
Is the EGS available in China?
.... why do I even bother.
Is the EGS available in China?
Yeah, because when I was asking for this game on PC, I assumed it would have decent controller support and that I'd be able to play with the friends I play fighting games with.
.... why do I even bother.
Yes, they did fix that blunder. It supposedly works in China now.
Yeah, but apparently Chinese gamers hates EGS. If you're porting games to PC for the Chinese audience, it's Steam or you're in trouble.
Typically it sucks when Epic removes games from Steam as they've been targeting games based on Steam wishlists, so mine was eroded and games I was looking forward to were effectively delayed.
But this time I more or less hadn't heard of any of these before, so that's good, I suppose.
But this time I more or less hadn't heard of any of these before, so that's good, I suppose.
Personally I never thought Maneater looked even remotely promising, but jI'm not sure that's what you meant, so I have to ask just out of curiosity:
what makes you say so? Something happened?
Really? I never heard a word about this. Do you have any reference?