"You need to download the software to use the software features"
Sounds logical. But you still don't need to use the store. So it's not locked to a store.
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Epic Games announces multiplatform publishing partnerships with studios behind Control, Limbo, and The Last Guardian
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"You need to download the software to use the software features"
Sounds logical. But you still don't need to use the store. So it's not locked to a store.
So, basically, you'd like the Steam client to be like Playnite and for Valve to host cloud saves, forums, mods, guides, controller configs, servers, etc. for every PC game? And not require you to use Steam to download and play games bought on... Steam?
This is a wonderful move, and I'm glad they're doing it. Excited to see what these developers and future partners will do!
"blatantly".
Can I use these features without buying the game on the Steam store ?
If yes, it's not locked to the storefront.
Can I use them without using the launcher ?
Well no, obviously, since the launcher is the software providing the features.
It's like, duh, obvious.
Favourite thing about this is we are getting a Remedy next gen exclusive rather than cross-gen.
Nah, they said sony looked into it but now we know nothing came out of it. People took that and ran with it and got all conspiracy theory with how since remedy is close to playstation devs on twitter it must mean theyre getting aquired
Where does it say that? I didn't see any mention of that.
They do this no more and no less than Microsoft or Sony ever did.
So, I guess you avoid their "stores" and products too, right?
I think you have missed all that Tim Sweeney has said regarding Steam and the "steam tax".
Those studios have made some of my favorite games of the last decade, so I'm excited that they have deals to produce their next games. Even better that they won't be locked into platform exclusivity.
Doesn't actually say it won't release for current consoles though, although yeah if it's just starting dev now, it's entirely possible that it would make sense not to target current consoles. I guess we'll seem.
so called insiders have been proven wrong over and over again especially in recent weeks. It's good to see these devs reach more gamers by aligning with Epic. I'm just so glad I get to play games from all 3 devs on my XSX esp games from Gendesign..
Ehm... you are making my point.
"I do not like EGS because Tim said that..."
Remember: you are using Steam as a platform. You give them money, they give you things, that's it.
Remember when Gabe Newell tried to do this? You know why he was entitled to do that? Because he had NO competition.
I don't even care about that stuff, I just want to use my controller without having to be tied to steam, or buy games for non steam stores. I can do that now but the windows drivers that communities are working on is still being fleshed out. I can at least use GOG Galaxy 2.0 very well for pretty much all of my games thanks to GloSC (global steam controller app). That thing is a life saver, putting in major work.
Mods: I do them well without Steam. I don't even think I mod my games with Steam. Steam modding seem limited going by Saints Row, and Skyrim. It's much better to mod those two outside of Steam.
Forums: I always think this is a bit of a joke. People seem to love Steam Forums. I never use them. Google searches for issues, or tips is far better. You get forums (excluding Steam's for comparison sake), Reddits, tweets, game dev websites forums and information, video demonstrations via youtube, twitch, etc. It's natural, and easy.
Controller: Right now Steam has Steam Controller locked down, not totally, there's a good alternative that allow you to fully use it without steam booted, but it's a work in progress. For other controllers, I half wish my steam controllers were dead so I cold dive into reWASD. Also there are a ton of good controller profilers out there. I've always used them, and now they are far better than they ever were.
Games activated on steam still have to deal with Steam's customer service, they are a lot faster replying now at least, but my previous experience with them got no ticket responses, for a big company like Valve. I got tired of waiting whenever I needed their help and they just never responded, I'm talking weeks even months iirc I ended up closing the tickets because I moved on (the issues were with steam and mistaken money put in the wallet two times because of a laggy experience on their site so I thought nothing went through. Eventually I made use of the money in the wallet, and vowed to avoid spending money on their app. Amazon and EA spoiled me on customer service.). The new system or whatever they have in place at least get you a response from something or someone telling you that your ticket is being reviewed and it's not ignored somewhere.
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Yep, but not before they finished purchasing Konami's IPs, so it took a little bit of time.
The same insiderp that said PS5 is 13.3 TF and set up everyone for disappointment, yeah.
If they're paying development costs, then I'm okay with these games being exclusive to Epic's store.
This is arguably what we wanted from them.
This is arguably what we wanted from them.
Oh wow, GenDesign. Can't wait to see what they come up with next.
Would it be something similar in tone to their previous games, or something new and different?
Would it be something similar in tone to their previous games, or something new and different?
You asked what is Epic doing compared to MS and Sony to develop an air of hostility towards Steam. I give it to you and then you deflect.
About the difference between Epic and Valve, it is quite easy. Epic said from the beginning that their target was developers and that me, as a customer, was secondary giving me a subpar product (and continue to do right now).
Regarding the thing you linked, paid mods have been a tough question on PC for a long time, that Valve failed to make it better doesnt mean that they tried to exploit their "monopoly". (Also, by then, Origin existed, as did other major players which probably had more impact than EGS. The whole "no competition" stuff Epic has tried to parrot regarding PC gaming is kinda funny when the other competitors actually improved PC Gaming for customers... unlike EGS).
This is to fantastic to hear honestly. These are three of some of my favorite developers ever, so knowing they're gonna get the backing they deserve is awesome.
Really nice to also hear that these guys will retain ownership of their IP, as it should be. Can't wait to see what comes from this!
Really nice to also hear that these guys will retain ownership of their IP, as it should be. Can't wait to see what comes from this!
That couldn't be further from the truth. How is Microsoft and Sony being hostile towards Steam when those companies are allowing their games onto the service? Phil Spencer even tweets about the stuff they're doing on Steam.
Oh, please... they are hostile towards each other.
Have you played the latest Control DLC on Xbox recently?
No, that's not true.
They said things about the developers and YOU tailored other "anti-customer" things about them.
To the point that even now that they are actually funding games I have to read that "No, I'll never play those".
This is exactly how I feel, I wouldve preferred someone else but at least EPIC means more people get to play it, even MS wouldve been better then Sony because even though it isnt ideal many more get to play.
I don't even care about that stuff, I just want to use my controller without having to be tied to steam, or buy games for non steam stores. I can do that now but the windows drivers that communities are working on is still being fleshed out. I can at least use GOG Galaxy 2.0 very well for pretty much all of my games thanks to GloSC (global steam controller app). That thing is a life saver, putting in major work.
Mods: I do them well without Steam. I don't even think I mod my games with Steam. Steam modding seem limited going by Saints Row, and Skyrim. It's much better to mod those two outside of Steam.
Forums: I always think this is a bit of a joke. People seem to love Steam Forums. I never use them. Google searches for issues, or tips is far better. You get forums (excluding Steam's for comparison sake), Reddits, tweets, game dev websites forums and information, video demonstrations via youtube, twitch, etc. It's natural, and easy.
Controller: Right now Steam has Steam Controller locked down, not totally, there's a good alternative that allow you to fully use it without steam booted, but it's a work in progress. For other controllers, I half wish my steam controllers were dead so I cold dive into reWASD. Also there are a ton of good controller profilers out there. I've always used them, and now they are far better than they ever were.
Games activated on steam still have to deal with Steam's customer service, they are a lot faster replying now at least, but my previous experience with them got no ticket responses, for a big company like Valve. I got tired of waiting whenever I needed their help and they just never responded, I'm talking weeks even months iirc I ended up closing the tickets because I moved on (the issues were with steam and mistaken money put in the wallet two times because of a laggy experience on their site so I thought nothing went through. Eventually I made use of the money in the wallet, and vowed to avoid spending money on their app. Amazon and EA spoiled me on customer service.). The new system or whatever they have in place at least get you a response from something or someone telling you that your ticket is being reviewed and it's not ignored somewhere.
I'd love for games to come to GOG or some other service as well for the sake of choice, but I have most of my needs met by Steam, so I can't say it's an issue for me. In the end, it's up to the developers and publishers where to distribute their games, not Valve.
I've thankfully not had issues with CS. Had some obscure issue with Steam Link a while ago and they got back to me within a day with a solution. I'm sure it's not all rainbows and sunshine though. As for the Steam controller, I don't use one myself (missed out on the fire sale unfortunately!) so idk about that, but I do like Steam's controller utility. Would of course be great for the Steam controller to be software-agnostic. That only makes sense for PC.
In any case, I was just wanted to know if the member I quoted wanted to separate the client from the store. While great in theory, I just can't realistically see it happening without losing some or all of the free services it provides.
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That doesn't make them hostile. Not in the way that was being described.
Sounds like a great situation for you guys to be in, able to take creative risks without the normal fear
Congrats on the deal. Any timeline to a glimpse reveal on the projects?
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