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Engadget(video): ‘Half-Life: Alyx’ shows Valve’s bad attitude
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People are mad, so it's only natural that the criticisms in the video are entirely salient lol
Y'all can enjoy your game and still recognize Valve is ultimately still a tech firm with obscene wealth and responsibility to very few. Half-Life coming back doesn't erase that. Nothing does.
Y'all can enjoy your game and still recognize Valve is ultimately still a tech firm with obscene wealth and responsibility to very few. Half-Life coming back doesn't erase that. Nothing does.
Just wondering does this logic apply to new consoles? If say HZD 2 is exclusive to the next gen, would it be anti-consumer for HZD fans to require an expensive purchase ($500) to play the latest game?
Despite valve obscene wealth and responsability to only themselves they literally push the market forward for both devs and costumers.
IMO its weird saying that a valve has a bad attitude while ignoring the fact that all other platform holders keep trying to find ways to exploit the constumer.
While valve is developing a game which can be played in their competitors hardware we have sony/nintendo/microsoft with their shitty exclusives. How can valve have a bad atitude when it allows for occulos VR and HTC VR to play their game?
Did you see the meltdown sony fanboys had when HZD was announced for PC? can you imagine the meltdown if Sony/nintendo/microsoft essentially allowed their games on all platforms?
Alongside the above it is IMO ,expect able that jornalists/editors do a bit for fact checking before publishing stuff. The fact that the video has stuff that is outright wrong just shows how little effort was put into the video.
This makes no seeeeeeeeense.... who is playing Artifact? WHO!? Anybody? And TFT IMO is hilariously superior to Battle Chess or whatever they call DOTA's equivalent.
Where does this narrative that everything Valve puts out gets accepted and praised come from? Its so completely stupid.
This is a great question with consoles also now being 300+. I desperately want to see the spin on this, because now EVERY console exclusive has to fall under this banner or folks just need to admit that the argument is silly from the outset. Lets keep that same energy and go on about how Super Mario games are anti consumer.
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And people accepted paid mods right after Valve introduced those.
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It would but unfortunately even mainstream media is currently failing by that metric, not to mention the white house.
Calling it anti-consumer is a bit hyperbolic (just as it is in the video) but certainly a lot of consumers would be disappointed.
She keeps saying Anti consumer but it's a very poorly constructed argument beside the revenue share part.
Yeah, I can't stand how despite being the #1 place to buy games, they keep improving their store more and more.
So companies that aren't publicly traded are afforded a creative freedom in a creative industry that other traded companies dont; in that they arent forced to pump out sequel after sequel after sequel to their past hits in order to hopefully heighten the chance of future success by betting on a sure thing rather than just trying new stuff that they enjoy?
Im trying to follow here, but its still making this video looks stupid from my position. Yes, not going public allows the company to retain complete autonomy if they are successful in the marketplace. To what or whom do we owe this flash course in the benefits and drawbacks of IPO's or whatever?
I made a video about how I am right and that how many people think I am wrong, which makes me more right. I imagine that this will be a video where many people tell me I am wrong, proving once again, that I am right. God I love being right.
I thought it was a parody until I saw she wrote the other controversial article about epic game store.
I could agree with that, but this? This is too much. It's not even directed at valve itself, but at its fans? This is not a article, is someone venting. Why people vent on the internet instead of talking to their close friends and family?
I could agree with that, but this? This is too much. It's not even directed at valve itself, but at its fans? This is not a article, is someone venting. Why people vent on the internet instead of talking to their close friends and family?
There would be a lot to say about the "revenue share part", starting with dispelling the notion that Valve invented that kind of split (they didn't) or that it was some abusive, monopolistic practice when it was introduced (it wasn't, if anything it was far more alluring than any other self-publishing option previously available) and then questioning the (somehow rather common) claim that Valve never does nothing to deserve it.
But even putting ALL of that aside, it's still not clear how that would be "anti-consumers". It literally doesn't affect consumers in any way.
At most, it could be made a misguided attempt to argue that it's "anti-developers".
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Can´t disagree with anything said. Not that these are new points. Cue Jim Sterling link XY.
Valve has been laughably anti-consumer since 2004 (Steam lead to a swift lawsuit in Germany but the service itself transformed a lot over the years) and is frankly less likable that EA or Activision. Or dare I say Epic. Not that I am crazy about any of them. They released good games along the way of course. Alyx is one of them.
Valve has been laughably anti-consumer since 2004 (Steam lead to a swift lawsuit in Germany but the service itself transformed a lot over the years) and is frankly less likable that EA or Activision. Or dare I say Epic. Not that I am crazy about any of them. They released good games along the way of course. Alyx is one of them.
Valve is the most consumer facing of the big platforms and has done more for consumers than the other 3 big platform holders combined.
I watched the video and think her points are valid.
What am I missing?
I mean, they're not damning to the point of not using Steam or buying Valve games - but still - valid criticism, no?
What am I missing?
I mean, they're not damning to the point of not using Steam or buying Valve games - but still - valid criticism, no?
Forgive me for being way late but holy shit this is amazing.
Every fucking time.
Meh. It's ok to be upset, but not logical. They're not requiring an expensive peripheral to play the latest game in a popular series. They made the latest game in a popular series on an expensive peripheral, and there's nothing wrong with that.
One of the most insane videos I've seen. Why would you ever want your name associated with this trash? Imagine going to another employer and being like "yeah here's some of my work" and linking this video.
Which points do you think are valid and why? You can just read the thread to see what people have a problem with.
You're missing the fact that almost everything she says is misleading or a flatout lie lmao
It wouldn't be a Valve thread without the hot takes. There is something about Valve that makes people post the weirdest shit.
I'm not sure it's "anti consumer", but I do think Valve has done a disservice to gamers by not porting their last gen games to PS4/XB1. They could have paid one of the many studios outscoring it this gen, and made hand over fist on even that half hearted attempt. Left 4 Dead 2 and Portal 2 alone would have sold millions easy.
I'm not sure it's "anti consumer" but I think MS and Sony have done a disservice to gamers by not providing full backwards compatibility. They could have paid any number of engineers and made hand over fist even on that half hearted attempt. All that backward compatibility would have sold millions easy.
The game is not designed for non-VR interaction. At all. It would not have been a port in any capacity and would have to be a redesign. They had a vision that could only be fulfilled using the VR medium. Not sure why that's so bad of an idea. Otherwise, I guess I can see why Portal 2 and L4D2 could have been on current gen consoles but eh.
Outside of GoG, I can't think of anyone more customer oriented than Valve. Clearly you've never had the pleasure of dealing with the console platforms.
I watched this video the other day, and all I could think of during it was "calling a company anti-consumer because they won't make a sequel" is the most entitled bullshit take I've heard in a while.
I think the thing that drives irrational Valve hatred more than anything here is seeing a company become wildly more successful outside of the console duopoly rather than in it, which is why you have posts like the above calling it a "disservice to gamers" that Valve won't fuck around with porting old games that run on a toaster on Valve's own platform