Again, trying to claim there is no sexual connotation in the phrase whatsoever is absurd.
Again, trying to claim there is no sexual connotation in the phrase whatsoever is absurd.
Here's the full situation from the article it's referencing. He shouldn't have said this to be honest, and it seems like if you use words that involve "pulling my dick out" then you're really not being smart in a work setting.
https://www./news/article-6510443/B...ference-call-sexual-harassment-complaint.html
What an utterly insipid post. Are you going to try and paint everyone who disagrees with you as some sort of intolerant, hateful person?Lol, "faux outrage". It must be nice to not be able to fathom that since you don't think it's an issue, other people must be posting in bad faith. Do you regularly use "white knighting" and "NPC" too?
What an utterly insipid post. Are you going to try and paint everyone who disagrees with you as some sort of intolerant, hateful person?
Get the fuck out of here with that shit.
Faux outrage is exactly what this is. The phrase is common and whilst not workplace appropriate, it's hardly worth firing someone over a well known metaphor.
Well. Honestly, if I tell a female colleague that I'm not going to pull out my dick and lay it on the table to see who has a bigger dick, I would expect to be fired.
No sympathy.
Perhaps you should reread the OP and see what was said?It would probably be beneficial if you read the entire OP before you pass judgments. Just a thought.
PC culture is gone too far off the reservation.
Absolutely fucking ridiculous for him to be fired over that.
But he was talking about NOT wanting to do that.I really can't believe a bunch of you are trying to flex that "there's nothing sexual" about talking about pulling your genitals out
like what the fuck
Sometimes I wonder what kinds of places yall work where an executive wouldnt be canned for this behavior in a meeting?What an utterly insipid post. Are you going to try and paint everyone who disagrees with you as some sort of intolerant, hateful person?
Get the fuck out of here with that shit.
Faux outrage is exactly what this is. The phrase is common and whilst not workplace appropriate, it's hardly worth firing someone over a well known metaphor.
ah yes faux outrage. from the legal system. about a case that nobody had heard of.
it must be that and not a man failing to behave appropriately in a senior job. It is not that he was trying to harass, but as a senior member of staff your words have consequences and therefore it is reasonable that you are judged accordingly.
Yep.Once you start describing pulling out your dick at work it's over breh.
Sometimes I wonder what kinds of places yall work where an executive wouldnt be canned for this behavior in a meeting?
This isn't faux outrage.
I posted earlier and no one replied, but this kind of shit is extensively covered in company policies. 9 times out of 10 they ask you to take training and apologize. You only get fired for refusing either. Unfortunately we don't have details on that kind of shit.
Theis wasn't two low level IC's talking or two mid-level managers. This was someone in a leadership position. You have to be better regardless of how common you think the phrase is. Especially when the exact same sentiments could have been expressed in a 1000 different and better ways.
I hope we get more details but I honestly think this dude didn't want to apologize or take training and HR doesn't brook that shit anywhere.
Because dick measuring contest is a common phrase that isn't about anything sexual, it's about a pointless argument about who is right.I really can't believe a bunch of you are trying to flex that "there's nothing sexual" about talking about pulling your genitals out
like what the fuck
This is should be a warning, unless the guy has prior. Sacking is disproportionate to the offence he is accused of. He'll win if this goes to court, but EA will settle before that happens. Anyone here suggesting execs don't speak like this probably hasn't spent much time around any.
It was sexual enough for the one who filed the complaint. If I was told to imagine my boss' dick in anyway, I'd feel uncomfortable.Except that's not what he said at all. Out of touch reactions like this are a constant reminder that most people here exist in a bubble. Nothing but useless hot takes, faux outrage, etc. This thread is a perfect example of this tbh. This is certainly not something that should cause an uproar. Is it unprofessional, yes of course. Unprofessional things occur everyday at different places of work. Usually, the appropriate punishment for such behaviour is a warning. Repeated warnings the lead to a termination of employment. The general public seems to agree that a firing for this behaviour is rather excessive. In the alternate reality that is Era, there are people getting visibly agitated. I often wonder if people here ever go outside, you know, into the real world.
I've heard women say it. If anything at my workplace women are more likely to make jokes like that. All of my bosses are women (office job)No wonder there's so few women working in the industry when even in the "leftist bubble" of Era, there's a few hundred posters who are unable to understand why this language in the workplace would make women feel unwelcome.
This seems to be what's being disputed between the two involved.A "dick measuring contest" usually doesn't mean anything sexual (despite it referencing dicks). A "dick measuring contest" is a pointless argument that only serves to boost one's ego. I'd normally say we've gone too far if someone loses their job over using that phrase, but that's not exactly how this situation went.
There's a pretty big difference beteeen saying "let's not get into a dick measuring contest" and saying "I'm going to put my dick on the table to see who's is bigger." I get what he's was going for, but it just doesn't work in the same way. The semantics kind of matter here. One of those phrases makes fun of the situation but the other kind of embraces it. Again I think I get what he was going for, but it doesn't change the fact that the way he worded that phrase sounds way worse than simply saying "let's not get in a dick measuring contest." He made it way more sexual than that phrase is supposed to be, so I completely understand that he's getting punished for it.
It is definitely innapropriate but yeah, it is not something to fire someone. He was clearly using it as a metaphor (which is a fairly common metaphor btw).
I'm management in retail head office for a FTSE traded company and such colloquialisms are commonplace. Here in the UK (and by proxy Ireland) it's a relatively standard phrase with little (if any) sexual connotations.
It's not what I'd want anyway, it's a common saying that doesn't mean anything sexual but in this day and age people can and will take things the wrong way. Just something we have to deal with. Not the language to be using in a professional call but should not be dealt with as a sexist thing or sexual thing.But is this what we really want? Not a fan of this approach, if it's not sexist it shouldn't be treated like sexist. I'm also afraid this approach won't help people with less critical thinking to understand the difference between a sexist comment and bad language.