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Election Results 2020 - Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (No Biden, this IS who you are)

Keasar

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John Oliver being this week quite real about this election.

Yes. Biden won. America rejected Trump. Biden is the most voted for candidate in US. election history. Highest voter turnout ever in the country.
Know what's also true?
Trump is the second highest voted for candidate in US. election history.

For all the jubilations going on that "America is not so bad after all!" John points out the fact that over 70 million people in America, despite what Trump represents and stands for quite openly (none of his shit views is hidden information), still said "Yeah I'd prefer that."
That, hurray! America voted in their second black person into the White House! Only in between they also voted in a narcissistic white supremacist and a total hate filled government.
That for all the nice things Biden says, he will probably do nothing to fix the fundamentals problems and issues that plagues the country and leads to exactly this situation where a person like Trump gets elected.
And that for all the nice things that Biden says about his country in regards to the Trump administration, "this is not who we are" as the USA, 47.7% of the country (so far) in this election said "Oh no that's exactly who we are."
And for all the claims that all this shit that happened under Trump administration was just temporary and does not reflect the country, historically America, this is exactly who you've been in the past 250 years of your existence. Trump just cranked up the little lever of "America" to the next level. And most what Biden likely will do is just set it back to where it was.
 
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Midramble

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Yeah, what's been burning at the back of my skull since election night, hence the 71 million votes thread.

Love to see a bit of joy back on John's face though.
 
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Keasar

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Midramble said:
Yeah, what's been burning at the back of my skull since election night, hence the 71 million votes thread.

Love to see a bit of joy back on John's face though.
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Yeah, that this even was a nail biter at times is deeply worrying. I couldn't post in that thread cause I was....uhm...a tad bit banned, but I would have definitely agreed. I was so happy to see the news that day but holy shit did I also find it terrifying how close it was. Less than 4% difference between Trump and ANYONE is a horrifying sign.
 

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I feel like this segment was pretty much everything I've been feeling and struggling to articulate the last several days.
 
Khanimus

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As cathartic as it is to see Trump dragged, he gained support. After all this, his numbers went up. And America wants to feel good about itself, like "Isn't it amazing? I drove home from work and didn't cause a single fatality!"

There's a video going around of a woman in her 80's crying with joy that she'll be able to keep her social security. How the fuck is it okay that someone is racked with so much fear and anxiety about their right to live? And to have the numbers read that 70 million were okay with that, that people were left nervous for days before it was really clear Trump would lose.

It never should have been that close. It never should've been allowed to be that close. And those 70 million vile fuckbags aren't disappearing. They'll keep pursuing the destruction of more peoples' lives.
 
Wrexis

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I've said this in another thread recently, but basically look out the window - on average every second person you see voted for Trump.
That's chilling to me.
 

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One would think that, after Trump's massive failure of a response to COVID, he would have lost support. That shit had a direct effect on Americans and their everyday lives. But no, 70 million fucking people were like, "yes, more of that please."

Sheer. Fucking. Lunacy.

I never thought it was possible for me to judge Trump supporters any harder than I already do but, much like their leader, there is just no bottom with them.
 
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The two-party system ensures that conservative-leaning people have no choice but to vote for him.

And the media they consume has taught them that voting for the other party is death itself.
 
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Keasar

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SpaceCadetKeon said:
I never thought it was possible for me to judge Trump supporters any harder than I already do but, much like their leader, there is just no bottom with them.
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Until America rejects the two party system, the "winner takes all" of voting, the electoral college, the entire Presidency (nobody should have on their own THAT much power), this will only continue. As much as I am furious with these people, it's easy to also see that not many of them have any choice. And while the Republicans lie a lot with what they will do, the Democrats are becoming not much better. I am still pissed how the DNC basically just threw out Bernie for being too left, that was a complete backstab from inside the party and a clear message that "We'd prefer to still be center right".

America needs a third party. And that third party needs to be full left socialism, and work to convince the American people that socialism isn't out to murder them all but to HELP them.

Speaking of the democrats, this is their Vice President choice.


"First black woman vice President."
Yaaay.
"Who is a terf."
Oh fuck....
 
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Keasar said:
Until America rejects the two party system, the "winner takes all" of voting, the electoral college, the entire Presidency (nobody should have on their own THAT much power), this will only continue. As much as I am furious with these people, it's easy to also see that not many of them have any choice. And while the Republicans lie a lot with what they will do, the Democrats are becoming not much better. I am still pissed how the DNC basically just threw out Bernie for being too left, that was a complete backstab from inside the party and a clear message that "We'd prefer to still be center right".

America needs a third party. And that third party needs to be full left socialism, and work to convince the American people that socialism isn't out to murder them all but to HELP them.
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A real Social Democratic party would be more than enough for you guys. The current democrats are not that. As you say, they are more center-right.

LIke I will never understand how people like Bernie or AOC are in the same party as Biden. Republicans splitting between Trumpers and their normal assholes would probably also be good. Can only help the left.
 
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Jesus, just saw this bit from Trump's insane speech, indoors.

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Like, was the rose garden incident not enough for them?
 
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Keasar said:
I am still pissed how the DNC basically just threw out Bernie for being too left, that was a complete backstab from inside the party and a clear message that "We'd prefer to still be center right".
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This is a ludicrous assessment of what went down in the primaries, for what it's worth. Bernie failed to build a coalition, and the rest of the party coalesced around the candidate they thought could win (spoiler: they were absolutely correct).
 
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Psychotext said:
Jesus, just saw this bit from Trump's insane speech, indoors.

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Like, was the rose garden incident not enough for them?
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When you're in this deep already, might as well just drink up the rest.
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Dwebble said:
This is a ludicrous assessment of what went down in the primaries, for what it's worth. Bernie failed to build a coalition, and the rest of the party coalesced around the candidate they thought could win (spoiler: they were absolutely correct).
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I can't say I agree. It was quite clear that the DNC saw Bernie as an outsider and despite his popularity with the people did not want him to interfere with the party standards. As said, they are truly just a Centre Right party and their biggest concern is being in power. The DNC wins on the two party system as much as the Republicans does and Bernie sought to uproot a lot of the systems that keeps that power up. As much as we say that the Electoral System is shit, now that it helped the Democrats win again, are we going to see them now for example go after its dismantling along with the gerrymandering, the winner takes all etc. that Bernie did? I am not so sure about that.

The DNC did not want Bernie on their platform making his points, and they did a lot to diminish his influence.
 
Regulus Tera

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I'm less worried about Trump getting that many votes as opposed to the fact that the GOP at large made gains. Aside from the presidency, the Democrats had a shitshow of an election when high turnout was supposed to help them.*

*Pending the Georgia run-off results.
 
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Dwebble said:
This is a ludicrous assessment of what went down in the primaries, for what it's worth. Bernie failed to build a coalition, and the rest of the party coalesced around the candidate they thought could win (spoiler: they were absolutely correct).
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Clyburn straight up lied his ass off in order to ensure M4A wouldn't gain any traction to keep his pharma donors happy to the point that Bill Clinton flat out said it during John Lewis' funeral. South Carolina picks presidents right? Then SC went pure red.

A day later every other moderate candidate drops out and backs Biden with several aides telling CNN that Obama and Tom Perez were making calls to make it happen. If Democrats put this amount of effort into stopping Trump's appointments we might not be in such a fucked place right now.

Regulus Tera said:
I'm less worried about Trump getting that many votes as opposed to the fact that the GOP at large made gains. Aside from the presidency, the Democrats had a shitshow of an election when high turnout was supposed to help them.*

*Pending the Georgia run-off results.
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They still had a shitshow election and now all you see are losers of their elections as pundants on cable news saying this is a center right country and progressive messaging hurt Democrats despite every progressive Democrat won their election this year. Funny now you don't see a single member of the squad on cable news right now during this whole "gotta reach across the isle" phase but we got John fucking Kasich telling Democrats they have to listen to Republicans now, as if they didn't lose the election.
 
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I love it when any thread about america gets derailed by stupid shit about how "if only Bernie". It's great and definitely not annoying or stupid!
 

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Is there a version of this that allows me to watch it from outside the US because I really want to see it.
 
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LIke I will never understand how people like Bernie or AOC are in the same party as Biden. Republicans splitting between Trumpers and their normal assholes would probably also be good. Can only help the left.
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The nature of the voting system unambiguously puts them in the same coalition. Even if there were a system where 3rd parties were viable on a national level (which we are nowhere close to being), the Green Party / DemSoc party would likely be part of the same coalition as Democrats with whatever seats or electors they end up taking.

Like, your example, RIGHT THERE, is that Bernie doesn't even run as a Democrat for his Senate seat. But when he wins his race, it is 100% unambiguously the correct policy decision to caucus as a Democrat and be included in their committee assignments. The American voting structure strongly encourages diverse views to be different factions of one political party, rather than in small parties that get 10% of the vote and are 100% unable to win any seats ever.
 
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MechaJackie

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Glad to see John give the kudos to the people who actually worked their ass off to win this election, minority activists.
 
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I know. I know. American isn't saved, Biden will probably just be business as usual before Trump but still.

Damn does it feel good to finally see that monster get kicked off his pedestal and see those bastards dealt a blow. See that pain and frustration get thrown back at them in spades after how we all felt in 2016.

Suffer like we did, you miserable jerks.
 
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Buckle said:
I know. I know. American isn't saved, Biden will probably just be business as usual before Trump but still.

Damn does it feel good to finally see that monster get kicked off his pedestal and see those bastards dealt a blow. See that pain and frustration get thrown back at them in spades after how we all felt in 2016.

Suffer like we did, you miserable jerks.
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Oh, there is no denying that there is some REAL satisfaction that Trump lost. And like John said, the knowledge that Trump right now is probably really, really sad is such a delicious little feeling~

We're still talking about Trump.
Who is a massive asshole and deserves everything that comes at him for the rest of his life. The same goes for the rest of his disgusting family.
 
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