How do you explain that Dark Souls 3 and Horizon ZD have pretty much the same sales?
I believe Sekiro: SDT hit 5 million sales much faster than Horizon: ZD?
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Elden Ring vs Horizon Forbidden West. Which will be the best selling game?
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How do you explain that Dark Souls 3 and Horizon ZD have pretty much the same sales?
I believe Sekiro: SDT hit 5 million sales much faster than Horizon: ZD?
Wtf reactions from people angry about something Fromsoft never sold them?
I think Elden Ring.
It releases on multiple platforms out of the gate and From Software games are only getting more popular with every release. With ER currently as their biggest high.
Horizon will sell well but if I'm not mistaken we've seen that cross platform games sell less on last generation consoles and the bulk is sold on current gen consoles. With The PS5 audience still limited I think HFW will have a hard time to surpass the first Horizon.
It releases on multiple platforms out of the gate and From Software games are only getting more popular with every release. With ER currently as their biggest high.
Horizon will sell well but if I'm not mistaken we've seen that cross platform games sell less on last generation consoles and the bulk is sold on current gen consoles. With The PS5 audience still limited I think HFW will have a hard time to surpass the first Horizon.
While I know your definition of casual is FIFA/COD/Fortnite/etc, the post you quoted is right, Horizon has a bigger audience than Elder Ring no doubt. Maybe the word wasn't "casual" per se, but mainstream.
I think they will both sell more or less the same, and a lot!
Voted Elden Ring.
But this thread is funny seeing how many people are living in the Era bubble. Horizon is a huge IP.
Also I've seen that HFW could win in long term because Sony makes aggressive 1st party discounts on their games???
I've seen older FROM games from Bandai Namco at 10€ or less on Steam/PSN. It's not something that only Sony is doing.
And Sony isn't doing aggressive price cuts on PS5…. Demon's Souls is on sale at 50€ 14 months after launch date.
Elden Ring will actually be the game with the pricing advantage.
But this thread is funny seeing how many people are living in the Era bubble. Horizon is a huge IP.
Also I've seen that HFW could win in long term because Sony makes aggressive 1st party discounts on their games???
I've seen older FROM games from Bandai Namco at 10€ or less on Steam/PSN. It's not something that only Sony is doing.
And Sony isn't doing aggressive price cuts on PS5…. Demon's Souls is on sale at 50€ 14 months after launch date.
Elden Ring will actually be the game with the pricing advantage.
As if that ever stopped people from being angry. People's expectations matter, even if they're wrong. For example, Bethesda told people that there wouldn't be human NPCs in Fallout 76, but people were still angry about there not being human NPCs, because they just didn't pay attention and expected it.
I've seen quite a few casual gamers thinking that ER will be something along the lines of The Witcher 3/Skyrim, just with Souls combat. I've had to enlighten my friend that there won't be cities in the game. He was disappointed when he heard it--he had no idea about it. Unless people follow the game/From closely, it's not something one would simply guess from the trailers.
Your anecdotal evidence aside I just have trouble trying to square your conjecture. I think its most likely that people who cant get a read on ER are then not gonna go out and buy it if they cant figure out what kind of game it is exactly, other then it being open world and a new game from a bunch of folks notorious for making difficult games.
The last point alone excludes a large chunk of the casual base.
Wrong. Only souls trilogy sold about 30 million copies (bloodborne and sekiro not included). These numbers were provided by bamco and they have nothing to do with bb or sekiro. Also according to the latest edge interview with Miyazaki souls series has already sold more than 30 million copies
I have no interest whatsoever in the Horizon franchise and I'm a huge From fan, but it will probably be Horizon. Wider appeal and will have a larger marketing budget thanks to Sony.
I wouldn't count Elden Ring 100% out, though. The hype is very high and it will be released to a much bigger install base. The George R.R. Martin name also helps.
I wouldn't count Elden Ring 100% out, though. The hype is very high and it will be released to a much bigger install base. The George R.R. Martin name also helps.
God of War is the best selling Sony first Party game from the PS4 Era.
No, HZD sold much faster, after 12 months it had sold 7.6 million copies. Sekiro's 5m number was after like 16 months I think.
Lifetime sales could be interesting, because Horizon will also launch on Steam later.
Elden Ring still has Xbox as an advantage.
It's really hard to say, but I'd say Elden Ring just because of the bigger installation base.
Elden Ring still has Xbox as an advantage.
It's really hard to say, but I'd say Elden Ring just because of the bigger installation base.
Anecdotal, but from my mainstream gaming friends who aren't avid followers of what's coming, none of them are hyped or even know about Elden Ring at all, but they all know that a new Horizon is coming. So I'm gonna go with Horizon.
We have no official numbers from Spiderman. The last official number is 13,5 Million i think? We got a Job Listing that says it sold "20 Million globally" but not sure how official that is.
We got Official numbers from GOW that it is at 19,5 Million by now.
Spiderman could sell more with the Remaster, but GOW has a PC release coming in a few days.
Not to mention giving away Horizon Zero Dawn Complete Edition to everyone on PSN for free as part of the Play at Home initiative last year.
Got a friend playing through it right now to prep for Forbidden West since he got it for free.
Pretty much this. Elden Ring will sell great, that much I'm sure of. But Horizon has more mainstream appeal to it imho. Which is not bad. But it will sell better as a result of it.
That is a tricky question…
Speaking for myself, as much as i think elden ring looks great i would never buy it because i hate from gameplay. I think initially Elden will sell more but in the lifetime sales Horizon will surpass it (it all comes down to reviews too, since a lot of people care about that)
Speaking for myself, as much as i think elden ring looks great i would never buy it because i hate from gameplay. I think initially Elden will sell more but in the lifetime sales Horizon will surpass it (it all comes down to reviews too, since a lot of people care about that)
DS3 took four years to reach 10 millions. HZD archieved it in two years.
It is pretty easy to predict how the games will review, barring a Cyberpunk level disaster. Horizon will get 88/89 and Elden Ring will get 93/94. Can lock it in!
I'm going to bet Elder Ring will be closer to the higher 80s too, because not everyone will like the open world (unless FROM did magic, but I'm sure some purists will prefer the closed, interconnected level design).
Well, since Sony is holding back when showing the game, maybe there's much more to it than we saw…Horizon could get a 90+
If we're gonna talk just about sales, it's gonna be Horizon and it's not going to be even close.
A lot of hardcore online gaming community members might prefer Elden Ring.
But Horizon already did incredibly well as a new IP with Zero Dawn (and first release of a new AAA IP is a huge hurdle), so it's gonna do even better and faster with Forbidden West, with a much larger mass market appeal than Elden Ring has despite being a platform exclusive.
A lot of hardcore online gaming community members might prefer Elden Ring.
But Horizon already did incredibly well as a new IP with Zero Dawn (and first release of a new AAA IP is a huge hurdle), so it's gonna do even better and faster with Forbidden West, with a much larger mass market appeal than Elden Ring has despite being a platform exclusive.
Sekiro took 1 year and 4 months to hit 5 million sales on multiple platforms. Horizon Zero Dawn sold 7.6 million in just under a year on just the PS4. My money's on Horizon Forbidden West, but it may be closer this time who knows.
I think Elden Ring could do better at launch, as it will be released on multiple platforms.
But I see Horizon taking the lead over time. HFW is just more accessible than ER, so it will continue to sell to a wider audience for years to come, especially with sales and such.
But I see Horizon taking the lead over time. HFW is just more accessible than ER, so it will continue to sell to a wider audience for years to come, especially with sales and such.
Like twice the amount of Horizon. GoW (2018) is Sony's second biggest best selling game of all time behind Spider-Man.
Yes, GOW sold 10M in half the time it took Horizon to reach that mark.
GOW is now at ~19.5M, and the PC version is lauching in a few days.
Spider-Man should be confortably ahead of GOW, it's just that we didn't get official numbers since the last time (13M or so in 2019, GOW was at ~10M around that date).
I'm not sure whats the definition of casual gamer for you. I think of casual gamers as people who buy 2-3 games per year max. FIFA/Madden, maybe some shooter and some TPP action adventure game like Assassin's Creed. Horizon easily appeals to such audience and it will for sure have better marketing in mainstream media.
Based on HZD vs DS3 sales, Horizon 2 seems like the more likely winner in the long-run, especially when considering the eventual PC release.
But something about this Elden Ring hype...
But something about this Elden Ring hype...
Until this month, GOW will sell a LOT on PC . So probably it will surpass Spiderman if you sum the amount of PS + PC in the future . I own it on PS but of course i will buy it on PC and a lot of people will do the same for sure haha
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Something to note, HFW will likely see a PC release. Maybe a 2024 release or something along those lines. Count on another 1-2 million there.
Well i think a week to finish HFW before ER is good. But to be honest i'm more excited for Lost Ark/Horizon than ER