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So so many takes to parse through but I'm afraid of spoilers. Is there a general consensus on "difficulty?" I was someone who beat Bloodborne and had a great time, but I did have to use a few summons at times (fookin Ebrietas). Guessing I should be ok? Seems like there's more ability to level up and come back later?
Yeah, with the sheer amount of stuff there is in this game compared to other games, there should be enough opportunity to overlevel your characters if you need to . Reviewers probably did not have as much luxury to do this since they were on such a tight deadline.
Haven't played it yet, but the general consensus seems to be that its just as mechanically hard as other games, but with more options and the ability to go our and find more content/level up if you hit a wall.
Yeah, its a bit shitty. I get that the gameplay, story, combat, etc... are good. But you can't excuse crap performance like that, especially on PC.
Perfect, this would be exactly what I'm looking for.
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lol its not the games fault you never even gave it a chance... lol if i raged quit that bad id just wouldn't play games that i could die in at all.
just watch twtich lol sounds like you dont even play games lol
I really enjoyed FightinCowboy's review (although it's kind of long), he heaps praise on the game, but also offers constructive criticism and talks about the inconsistent frame rates and bugs on the PC version.
Yes, that was a good review. So was Fextralife's. However, they aren't in the Metacritic/OpenCritic with a number score. :(
That wolf is supposed to kill most players. You then get sent to the Hunter's Dream -- a tutorial world where you receive your first weapon and find messages teaching you how to play. So you quit before the tutorial. Amazing, lol.
No spoilers in that video, but I highly recommend just listening to it, rather than watching.
It's definitely possible that people enjoyed the game so much that despite all the performance issues they still gave it a 10. Which frankly is another argument to do away with scores altogether as a number will never convey the strengths and weaknesses of a game.
The game is poorly designed if it doesn't make me feel like I'm God of the Universe Wielding the Infinity Gauntlet While Being Fellatio'd by a Choir of Supermodel Angels
Same. Miyazaki already got a lifetime achievement award like 2 years ago and just went "hold on, you ain't seen nothing yet".
I feel like nearly every game expects you to learn from death/fail states.
When it gets to the point of someone misinterpreting the point you're trying to make, it's apparent they weren't debating in good faith. Seems to be a common trend with these threads of taking something out of context in the most extreme fashion.
Fortunately you are in good company. The Souls community can be a very helpful lot.
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I'm thinking we should do away with reviewers altogether! Or maybe I should become one. I'd call myself, No Bollocks Gaming. Hey, don't anyone go stealing that!
Obviously, a number can't tell you everything that's good and bad about a game. That's why reviewers also write articles and make videos.
I saw someone complaining they don't get what's good about Elden Ring but they're afraid to ask. Well, there are like 100 reviews you can read.
I saw someone complaining they don't get what's good about Elden Ring but they're afraid to ask. Well, there are like 100 reviews you can read.
Definitely the fastest I have seen someone get filtered by a From game yet.
I respect you just saying "nope not for me" though.
I'm surprised but not shocked. When I think about BOTW, my feeling was always that the open world was so great, but I just wish they would have found a way to have classic Zelda dungeons and bosses integrated into the open world and then it would be perfect, perhaps the greatest game ever. Or when I played Halo Infinite, I loved the combat and liked elements of the open world, but I think the open world detracted a little bit from the cinematic/storytelling experience of the linear past Halo games.
So when I saw what From was doing, I felt like having an open world with all the strange From stuff would be great, but if they could pull off the integration of the classic Dark Souls-type areas and bosses fully that would be huge. And it sounds like that's exactly what they did (and why the game is so long).
It doesn't sound like a big thing, but creating a great open world and then integrating classic linear level design of the older games in the series is what I think the major accomplishment is here. The open world adds to the traditional experience rather than the give and take of when other series go open-world.
fortunately i beat that boss the first time i got there. would have been pretty pissed to have to start the game over again. ends up being worth it and i love the game but man, terrible choice especially since the combat definitely takes some learning/getting used to in that game.
goddamn i still havent gotten any confirmation from the store where i pre-ordered this... i will be pissed if i cant pick up my copy tomorrow, then i have to wait til next week to play it. i will raaaaage.
and no i will never buy digital if its significantly more expensive, seems insane to me, even if it guarantees getting to play it early. also i would miss out on all the cool things you get with the launch edition like the stickers, art cards, even a woven patch heh. i love that stuff personally.
and no i will never buy digital if its significantly more expensive, seems insane to me, even if it guarantees getting to play it early. also i would miss out on all the cool things you get with the launch edition like the stickers, art cards, even a woven patch heh. i love that stuff personally.
If I remember correctly, doesn't the first death in BB help you…
(by sending you to the Hunter's Dream to)
Bruh, I think you're right to stay away from Elden Ring then.
Here's the logical fallacy of that position: Many reviews mention this and factor it into their scores -- it's just scoring 10s and 9s despite that. I watched two reviews this morning that docked the game a point/half-point for this but because the game was otherwise a 10, its still a 9.5 or 9. (One reviewer specifically gave it a 9 on PC, 10 on PS5.) Other reviewers have noted the problems as well but said that the game itself is so good, the performance issues aren't enough to ruin the experience and give it a 10 regardless.
None of this is ignoring the performance issues, it just means the experience is greater than the sum of its parts, which is something you can't judge for yourself until you have it in your hands. That's not "excusing crap performance" that's evaluating a game as a whole. Critique is not a science.
I feel like these days we have plenty of experiences in gaming that don't use these states, like walking simulators...
Something like... 0.1% of the games out there...
Did you see what Dan Tack was tweeting? About the boss he found in Elden Ring that he said was the best and hardest boss From has ever made. Totally optional and maybe even hidden, though, from the sound of it. He said he couldn't put it down, and finally got up in the middle of the night and beat it at 3 AM in his pajamas.
"100 page review thread on Resetera!" should be plastered on the box
This X's 5! I loved BOTW but something really was missing with the lack of unique themed dungeons and enemy variety on display. Elden Ring seems to deliver this in spades with From's unique flavor of gameplay, exploration and storytelling. I haven't been this hyped for a game since BOTW, and after Elden Ring I will be hyped to see what Nintendo can do with the sequel. Clearly, they will need to bring it to compete with what From has accomplished here, but if there is one developer that can do it, it's them.
This is gonna be a weird concept to era but lots of people don't give a single shit about performance. Many don't even notice and if they do, it's not a bother
In a forum where so many people played old games that ran "terribly" it's just shocking to me how many care. I get "I wish it was better" but "this is unplayable" is just really unrelatable to me
I hear what you're saying and partially agree, and by no means do I want to detract from what it seems like From have accomplished here. Evolving their combat that people adore while retaining the DNA of their games and successfully placing it in to a sprawling mysterious world is precisely what so many have dreamt about I'm sure. Beyond that if the lore is compelling without being too obfuscated that's even more impressive.
That said I hesitate to boil BotW's strengths down to a finely crafted explorable open world. The game is equally about encouraging and rewarding creativity and experimentation within its systems and mechanics. To that end it appears that the sequel is going to once again be about that; new ones. Relates more to a Nintendo design ethos vs a From design ethos which, reductively, is about tremendously fine-tuned RPG experiences ('role-playing' being the highly operative term)
Don't know exactly where I was going with all this and don't want to just seem like a defense force but let's not dog on games in a thread about celebrating one?
For us, it will be one of the most cherished experiences with any media in our lives.
For From Software, it was Tuesday.
Another case of "10/10 does not equal flawless". Someone giving a game a 10/10 but also saying "it has X issues" is perfectly valid.
Yeah it's hilarious
I heard one of the bosses can only be defeated if you write a 1000-word essay on why you deserve to be Elden Lord and if you make even a single grammatical error, you die.
Yeah it's hilarious
People have really lost their minds about this. If he hadn't tweeted that yesterday it literally would have never been brought up by anyone.
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